Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Blessings Judy!!! If you are part of a non denominational church such as pentecostal you would see how this type of phenomena can occur. This may also occur in a catholic charismatic setting as well. Only many Othodox Church's might frown on any of this. Mysticism is very real and can occur when you are open to this. Now if you were to invoke Christ's blessing or protection prior to meditation etc. would you feel more at peace? I believe would agree to this but you should still take this up with him. Just remember if you ask for protection from Christ and still experience mysticism how will you react? Also, remember in the Gospel of Saint Matthew when the Pharisees condemned Christ for blasphemy by accusing Him of casting out demons with the power of the devil? This cann ot be done. Again, Christ said you will do what I do and more than this. Call upon the power of protection and trust in the process. Many of the saints had mystical experiences, had doubts and suffered persecution. I am sure you will go through the same. Pax et bonum. Warren , junneau wrote: > > > Chrism, > > > > I am sooo confused. > > > > My upbringing in church tells me these " things " that take over my voice must be spirits. > > > > My participation in meditation, and my Kundalini rising, and my chakra clearing tells me that I'm receiving messages via my higher self that I would not otherwise receive. And, since I can't " hear " them, they must be coming into my throat... > > > > > > Still, others tell me it is Satan himself, disquising himself as " angels " to fool me. > > > > > > What and whom do I believe? Does participation with scattefield help stop and/or protect me from these " things " ??? Or, is it just going to get worse before it gets better? > > > > I am just curious...Do you have any suggestions for me to learn how to discern these things? > > > > Judy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Hi Warren, Judy, I hope you won't mind me speaking of my own experience here. It has only been recently that I have been able to recieve any real peace about the phenomena stuff. Just prior to going whole hog into the christian faith, I had been envolved with the silva mind control and other esoteric programing and had no problem with it until I read a book by this christian lady who had been involve with it also (the silva mind control). The church she belonged to, had convinced her that her visions and communications with Jesus was a false christ (demon) and that she needed deliverance. I began doubting my own experiences as being genuine because they were similar to hers. I kept it all to my self all those years, and was in fear that if any of them (my christian friends/family) " really " knew me that they would kick me out the door. or worse yet, perform an exorism. Hehe! Because of that, even though I did ask for Christ protection, the phenomena was not taken from me, but increased. Because of that woman's book I was concerned that I was being tricked and that my whole christian experience was not the real thing. That was me prior to coming here to this group. I was just out there dangling for a lots of years, (lost in what, who to believe) from the time I stopped going to church until I am where I am now. It's been a long struggle. My biggest thing all my life is learning to trust, even my own self. In January, I will have been here 3 years, a student learning from Chrism. I am so thankful he has put up with me all these years. I think he may have wanted to throw me into the reject pile a few times. I feel totally at peace with the phenomena and everything now....I hope it stays that way (peace for the whole process), but if it doesn't I will learn to walk through whatever comes up for me. AH! Is that a bit of trusting I am having there? Hehe! I will end here on that positive note. Love & blessings, Linda , " wtw11171 " <wtw11171 wrote: > > Blessings Judy!!! Just remember if you ask for protection from Christ and still experience mysticism how will you react?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Blessings Linda!!! You are a beautiful soul. You knew exactly what I meant. You had the experience and perhaps you can help Judy in many ways. Many of the Saints had these experiences but only certain ones were spoken of. The Church did frown upon these experiences but we must remember that God has a way of making things known. May you continue to be filled with Divine Grace. Pax et bonum. Warren , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Hi Warren, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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