Words - Diane

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, Diane Baugh

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> Dear and All:I just had a thought; correct me if this is not

accurate. In regard to the kundalini process, words are a vehicle whereby we

attempt to convey what cannot be expressed in a direct way.

 

@@ Yes Diane you are correct.@@

 

 

At some point in the kundalini process, words become unnecessary between teacher

and student; as a more subtle interaction becomes primary; the interaction of

the kundalini energy itself, " teaching, guiding' on a very subtle level.

 

@@ Yes I agree. This is why many of the teachings are received in the dream

state.@@

 

At this point, words could actually get in the way of understanding, due to the

fact that words are loaded with one's own particular interpretation and

experience, which varies for individuals.

 

@@ Sometimes though not all of the time. Depends on the student and the teacher

and how effectively the teacher can manifest words to convey Kundalini

experience and knowledge in ways that help the student understand. @@

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> Is it not true, that one of the great tragedies of this world is that RELIGION

exists, and is subdivided many times over in all the great belief systems

because of the various interpretations, that set believers against one another?

 

@@ Whoa! - lol! A bit of a shift there but ok...lol!.....shifting into the

religious transmission and (vroom!)....

 

Religion as practiced by those who would corrupt or possess or in some fashion

control populations at the detriment of those populations yes these can be seen

as a tragedy. To a degree much depends upon the spiritual leader or leaders and

the functions and goals of the belief system. Sometimes a belief system is a

very good thing. It allows for certain schools of education.

 

The whole purpose of life is for the many aspects of soul refinement. Love

teaches, war teaches, greed teaches, service teaches. We learn over and over

until we do not have to repeat a certain lesson. Then we move on to the next

lesson or set of lessons. This world and its many societies and environments are

difficult classrooms that allow the human soul to learn many different subjects

in order to come into a form of refinement that will allow for the body to hold

enlightenment.

 

Also as a way of Karmic balancing for those who require that kind of treatment.

Not all religions or belief systems are tragic or detrimental. The people in

power behind the belief system can " become " that way and inflict that upon

others. But sometimes there is a great leader as well Guatama, Jesus, Krishna,

Quan Yin, to name some well known figures.@@

 

It is the desire to define and interpret truth that results in these factions

which nullify the very intent of belief. It is the desire to GRASP and OWN

truth that results in the great emptiness of mankind.

 

@@ One cannot own truth. One can to ones own version or a societally

agreed upon version of truth but truth is a concept that can be adapted to fit

many specific variables. Many variables can become a " truth. " People will always

try and define their environments. Social or natural environments are all up for

definition by people. Sometimes they will use spiritual belief systems to do so

and sometimes they will use formulas that conform to measurements and

replication.

 

Humanity will always seek to define and redefine in order to " find a better way "

or an easier way or a way that suits the goals of the specific society. We as a

species will seek to grow and learn and relearn and reinterpret the facts and

the experiential aspects of life on this world. The variables of power and how

we treat eachother is what will be discerned as appropriate or inappropriate

depending on the moral guidelines of the specific society. - Blessings and love

to you Diane! - chrism @@

 

Respect, Honor, Gratitude and Love from Diane

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