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Hi Chrism,

 

I have been practicing the safeties and I try to keep an attitude of gratitude,

forgiveness, service and compassion throughout the day. I feel gratitude and

connection for the divine shakti in me, however I am not trying to 'force'

anything or have any expectations, especially with timing or intensity. Thank

you.

 

Blessings, love and light,

 

Dave

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How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

 

@@ The main think is following the safeties. I was very, very ego driven

especially during the 80's & 90's, where I amassed a lot of money and property,

and 'stuff'. I had a breakdown when loosing all this so in a way I have had to

remake myself. Being involved in Kundalini and following Chrism's directions and

suggestions, is my new way. I have found there is no need for other 'stuff'.@@ 

 

Are you pushing it and forcing it?

 

@@No. I love being relaxed with it. @@

 

Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

 

@@ No. I find what I experience is strong and enough for me to handle. I've had

enough rushing and pushing in my life so now I have left it to Kundalini to

guide me as she feels fit. I am also aware that if nothing is happening

physically, then Kun. is probably working on my brain or nervous system. @@

 

Heres something:

 

Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

 

Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this?

 

@@ Yes. I can conceptualise these staements but trying to relate them back would

be difficult for me at this time.@@

 

 - blessings Teacher,

 

Iona x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am doing the safties, tibetans and meditation. For me it is a slow and steady

process that God is in charge of. I don't try to push but I am trying to pay

attention and be aware of what is going on within me and around me. I had often

ignored opportunities for growth in the past not realizing it was an opportunity

until it had passed. Phenomena makes me a little nervous but not much has

happened. I take a breath and remind myself that when it is time for me to learn

about this a lesson will come and I will have the love and support I need to see

me through. This process seems to be very slow and steady for me. I am thankful

and prayerful for this amazing opportunity.

 

Lydia K

 

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> How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

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> Are you pushinFog it and forcing it?

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> Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

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> Heres something:

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> Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

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> Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

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Nothing in happening in terms of K, At least not that I recognize

 

Getting shaktipat here was my attempt to " push it " .

It did not work. (yet?)

 

I practice the safties and pray/chant several times a day

 

I continue my psycho-spiritual adventure in life.

Life is my path, my teacher

Life gives me, takes from me and challenges me

Everything is sacred.

Every event in my life and every person I meet is my teacher.

 

I try to move past conditioned responses and let what is be without judgment.

 

I try to move beyond the fear that I sometimes feel

 

I try to see/feel the love in every moment

 

I try to respond to every situation and every person as it they are my beloved

teacher (This can be difficult. I am a teacher and deal with angry, ignorant

teens.)

 

Every thing is just as it should be. life is the teacher. it gives me the

situations i need for my psycho-spiritual growth.

 

rich

 

 

 

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> How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

>

> Are you pushing it and forcing it?

>

> Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

>

> Heres something:

>

> Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

>

> Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

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How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

 

Every day is unique for me. What stands in the next moment can't be known.

Hence no approach. Its just experience. There is bliss after an abyss, an abyss

after a bliss.

 

 

Are you pushing it and forcing it?

Subconsciously yes. When the waves of bliss begins, then there is a feeling that

there is necessity for harmony/balance.

During this period of high, there is a personal effort subconsciously to reach

*that* highest point of ecstasy.

However, nothing can be forced to achieve that state. It is this craving - a

mismatch - a need to reach *that* highest

point of ecstasy and your inability to do anything to reach *that* makes me mad.

Though I can force Kundalini to move from the

base of the spine to the head or make some patternistic movements in the head, I

still can't conceptualise different movements and

associated bliss. Hence, forcing it doesn't serve much purpose.

 

 

Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

Except for bliss,no other phenomenon. I have tried in observing the prana relax

into the heart chakra while meditating by

putting up a deep sleep experience - and then all sense organs become

futile(withdrawal). When the prana from the corners of the body

goes back into the heart during sleep, the feeling is like a cloth that you have

worn getting smaller and smaller and escaping into a hole with all

the suction that one can feel in the heart.I am not looking at any other

phenomenon but the great union.

 

Heres something:

 

Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

 

Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

Yes. Kundalini is definitely a way of action intention + letting go. But the

intention(conscious) is just like a little spark needed to ignite the fire.

Once done the necessity of a spark is futile - when the burning fire of

subconscious tastes the bliss, there is a subconscious intention to have more.

But to have more, the only way is let go. Hence, actions and intentions are

needed only until the current settles. Once it settles it is let go.

 

Thanks,

Skoogle

 

 

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Hi Chrism..sorry did not see that email required all students to reply....my

eyes not seeing what is right in front of me!!

 

How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

I am letting it run or walk its course

Are you pushing it and forcing it?

Nno don't really know how to force it ...just meditate practice safeties through

out the day, daily tibetans... talk to the universe and energies out there

specific and general, striving for surrender at all times and sending

forgiveness and forgiving self for a close relationship that worries me

 

Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

No but am amused by phenomena occassionally when my abdomen has an earth quake

or the toaster keeps tripping whem i use it but works for my daughter!!Some

phenomena have become more gentle

 

Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. falling and

standing at once.

 

Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same ime. Can

you conceptualize this? - 

iI think that i am trying to get on with life and see what comes to me...stay in

the present and keep a alert and watch all that is around me with light

especially i have become particularly aware of all shades and brightness that

are brought to my attention sounds also amplified or maybe not just i am more

aware of them..birds and other sounds around me.

 

light and love...and thanks to you

marie-anna

 

 

 

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Hi Chrism,

 

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> How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

 

The kundalini is in charge... i realize I have a simpe choice, to choose the

ride or not, and in the end, there is no choice once I surrender to the ride, as

to choose another way just creates suffering. The kundalini doesnt belong to me;

I belong to the kundalini...yet in the end, the kundalini frees me to be what I

always most deeply wanted to be..

 

> Are you pushing it and forcing it?

 

Nope, i dont force it or push it, but I do push myself when exercising. I focus

on practicing focused contractions, then intentional relaxation.

K. pushes me all the time...

 

> Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

 

Nope... I have enough phenomena..

 

> Heres something:

>

> Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

>

> Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

 

Its like breathing... do I breathe or does breathing happen? I seem to happen

automatically in many ways, and when I stop choosing and just express what needs

to be expressed, watching myself express it and knowing the loving good

intention of the expresssion, then there is no holding on so letting go is not

necessary. Its like enjoying a good dinner, without wondering what will happen

after I finish eating :)

 

love

Bruce

 

 

ps.. could I arrange a chat with you sometime on skype or ? it would be

nice to touch base...

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I respond to K like a child, innocently observing, taking it in and not judging,

welcoming every change without preconcieved notions. I don't push or try to

force it though I do have fleeting thoughts of thinking if I meditate more I

will get more K activity but I quickly realise how faulty that thinking is. I

have had such overwhelming blissful feelings I sometimes miss them and want more

but then settle into a peacefulness of trusting that God and K know what they

are doing. I have faith in them. I feel like I am practicing action intention

and letting go at the same time with my daughter right now.

Maryann

 

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<> wrote:

>

> How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

>

> Are you pushing it and forcing it?

>

> Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

>

> Heres something:

>

> Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

>

> Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

>

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How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

------ With an open heart and an open mind

 

Are you pushing it and forcing it?

------- No, but I am adamant about growth and striving for evolution. I do not

wish to force more than I can handle. I would rather trot calmly than race and

fall off a cliff. If I have a panic attack, I know it's time to take a breather

and process what has been given =)

 

Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

-------- A little phenomena is a way that the divine says hello in a very

obvious way haha (imho), but I am more pleased with the internal changes and

that is all that really matters. In the beginning I loved the phenomena because

it was fantastical, but as I have matured in the process, I no longer try to

micromanage or ask for " signs. "

 

Heres something:

 

Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

 

Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this? -

 

---------Yes I can. We must be as a conductor (metaphorically speaking) =)

 

-Tiffany S

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Hi chrism – late reply here – life is busy this end!

 

How am I approaching the Kundalini? Lovingly and in the knowledge that it is an

integral part of my being. Probably the best way to describe it would be as an

inextricable partnership! I find that when I don't incorporate the Kundalini

consciously into my actions things are not always easy. Having said that I am

under no illusions that surrender is not abdication and this partnership

requires full input from all aspects of my being. The full extent of the

Kundalini still remains very much a mystery and I accept that that will only

grow with time.

 

Am I pushing it? Not at all – if you had asked that question 6 to 9 months ago

my answer would have been very different, but I have come to accept that

progression will take place at the rate that my physical being can keep pace

with and very much in accordance with my `practice' and input. On that score it

is constantly a principal focus of my daily life and actions.

 

Am I tied in to seeking phenomena? No! I have come to accept that the

phenomena are a `by-product' for want of a better description. I am naturally

curious and do enjoy anything that comes my way but phenomena are not my

objective – they will come and go as the Kundalini considers necessary.

 

Levitation being an act of walking and not walking! Being on many planes

simultaneously creates many contradictions on the physical!

 

Can I conceptualise Kundalini as action intention and letting go at the same

time? I am in it! My mind does get in the way at times but the `convergence'

is getting better all the time.

 

Love and blessings - Jonathan

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Dear Chrism,

 

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<> wrote:

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> How are you approaching the Kundalini within you?

....At this time I just want the Kundalini rise within me.

>

> Are you pushing it and forcing it?

....I don't have any means to do so, I would like Her to rise gently.

>

> Are you tied in to having as much phenomena as you can get?

>...Not thinking of any phenomena at this time, maybe not even later, but the

Kundalini itself.

> Heres something:

>

> Levitation is an act of walking and not walking at the same time. Falling and

standing at once.

>

> Kundalini is as a way of action intention and letting go at the same time. Can

you conceptualize this?

....Yes, I think I can...

-

>

.... Thank you,

 

Blessings,

kurt

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