Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 In a post on relationships Linda, you indicated that in becoming the observer in your personal circumstances you were able to detach from the self-blame and the pain. Becoming the observer is great! What really caught my attention however was your footnote - " love being detached " . Detachment is an interesting state in which to be but is one, I believe, that you do not want to stay in for any longer than is necessary to clearly define where you are in your current life. Like you I too considered detachment to be the answer. I felt emotions were a feature of the physical only; after all, I `reasoned', our higher states (put whatever label on makes you comfortable) were above emotion as that is a human aspect and one driven by ego (fear, lust, desire, anger, sorrow etc). I worked on becoming detached and I truly got there. I believe I was afforded this opportunity to teach me what transpired to be a very valuable lesson. In that state I found that everything I encountered on the physical had a sound and rational explanation. All made perfect sense – people's actions, their motives, their achievements, their cruelty. It was as though I was living my life from a distance – understanding all but not being actively involved. Initially seeing and understanding literally all in a logical and rational light was amazing. Then the crunch came! I realised I no longer had any feeling for those I loved – I was seeing them too in this detached light. Then the voice in my head (a sudden `knowing' more than a voice) told me that this had been a lesson. That and subsequent experience taught me that while emotion is generated on the physical it does have a place on the higher planes – it adds to the richness of our lives and the positive aspects of emotional experience are carried with us when we leave the physical. Before the initial lesson on detachment finished, I was told that I should concentrate on those positives while in the physical – see things in their true light and then cultivate the emotions of joy, happiness, laughter, fairness, compassion, empathy rather than the negatives like anger and hate. That lesson having been taught my emotions were returned together with a corresponding decrease in the level of knowing! The transition back was priceless as I am now able to share emotion again with those I love. I also have a considerably greater understanding of others since that exposure. You create emotion on the physical – it is an incredible gift and one that enriches your life significantly. Uncontrolled it can also be a source of great pain. Being closely aligned with the ego, it must be managed; the positives grasped and the negatives set aside. To do so your decisions must be right and you are here with the gift of being able to make decisions. Living with the positives only is not as hard as it may sound – it really is all about choice. Do not become so detached that you lose that valuable human quality. Your immortality is already a given – your physical presence is a but a moment in time – enjoy it to the full but wisely guided by your higher self – that is why you have it now! Blessings - Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Hello Jonathan, I think what I was understanding as detachment might me a slight bit different than your interpretation. So reading what you wrote, what I went through may not have been detachment at all, but somehing else. I have not lost my emotions nor have they decreased, it is the other way around as far as the emotions go. I am not that knowledgeable in the eastern way or of pyscological phrases or terminations. The word detach seem to me what took place, but maybe that is not the correct word to use. After reading Bruces's post today, maybe what happened with me was a gaining of freedom. Whatever label is put on it does not matter with me. I guess it would help in the sharing if I could get the right label,though. Hehe! All I know is that it was a good thing whatever it was. I did go through several years of not being able to express or feel much emotions, before all of that. I went years surpessing emotions until I could not cry even watching the sadest of movies. I went from this sane healthy person to a sickly emotional wreck, that is the reason James wanted to divorce me. Having my appendix to ruture was the last straw for him. He announced to my daughters while I was in the operating room that he was going to be divorcing me. My kundalini had been activated a couple of years or so before this happened, probably the cause of my emotions gone wild. The health issues had been going on for a good 10 years or so and was not getting any better. Doctor saying there was nothing wrong, but my body to me was saying different. Because of what the doctors said, I know my girls and James were thinking I had become a hypochondriac, especially after I had began to take all those vitamins and herbal stuff to get well. I went from this very super active healthy person into a sickly weak person (acting in their eyes) who became to lazy and fat to keep up with things. (I had no control over the weight gain, nothing I did could make it go.) I was given an ultimatum to change back to how I used to be or else. I had no control over how I was so I moved out of our joint bedroom and I began packing up my personal belongings throughout the house. Losing the house that I had put so much of myself into creating just the way I wanted a home to be, was hard too, besides losing my family. All those long hours, the hard physical labor I went through with the house and yard may have played a part in my becoming ill. I am not for sure what made me ill. Anyways, that year I went through months of crying every day and night. The turning point with James happened when the angry volcano within me exploded. The turning point of the situation with my daughter came about a couple months later with the event of the day leaving me with wanting death more than life. If my grandson had not been at my house that weekend, I don't think I would still be here in the physical. I feel a detachment from things and a calm inside and just live each day as it comes, what ever it brings. What happened to me in those events has left me changed for the better. My health has improved gradually, but I still have a long way to go to be as healthy as I once was. I am not so sure I can ever get back to there, but I would like to. I still have more changing to do I guess. I have been trying to go more vegetarian this year, but my body is not cooperating so well with that. Linda , " jonrow_2914 " <jrowland wrote: > > In a post on relationships Linda, you indicated that in becoming the observer in your personal circumstances you were able to detach from the self-blame and the pain. Becoming the observer is great! What really caught my attention however was your footnote - " love being detached " . > > Detachment is an interesting state in which to be but is one, I believe, that you do not want to stay in for any longer than is necessary to clearly define where you are in your current life. > Like you I too considered detachment to be the answer. I felt emotions were a feature of the physical only; after all, I `reasoned', our higher states (put whatever label on makes you comfortable) were above emotion as that is a human aspect and one driven by ego (fear, lust, desire, anger, sorrow etc). I worked on becoming detached and I truly got there. I believe I was afforded this opportunity to teach me what transpired to be a very valuable lesson. In that state I found that everything I encountered on the physical had a sound and rational explanation. All made perfect sense – people's actions, their motives, their achievements, their cruelty. It was as though I was living my life from a distance – understanding all but not being actively involved. Initially seeing and understanding literally all in a logical and rational light was amazing. Then the crunch came! I realised I no longer had any feeling for those I loved – I was seeing them too in this detached light. > > Then the voice in my head (a sudden `knowing' more than a voice) told me that this had been a lesson. That and subsequent experience taught me that while emotion is generated on the physical it does have a place on the higher planes – it adds to the richness of our lives and the positive aspects of emotional experience are carried with us when we leave the physical. Before the initial lesson on detachment finished, I was told that I should concentrate on those positives while in the physical – see things in their true light and then cultivate the emotions of joy, happiness, laughter, fairness, compassion, empathy rather than the negatives like anger and hate. That lesson having been taught my emotions were returned together with a corresponding decrease in the level of knowing! The transition back was priceless as I am now able to share emotion again with those I love. I also have a considerably greater understanding of others since that exposure. > > You create emotion on the physical – it is an incredible gift and one that enriches your life significantly. Uncontrolled it can also be a source of great pain. Being closely aligned with the ego, it must be managed; the positives grasped and the negatives set aside. To do so your decisions must be right and you are here with the gift of being able to make decisions. Living with the positives only is not as hard as it may sound – it really is all about choice. > > Do not become so detached that you lose that valuable human quality. Your immortality is already a given – your physical presence is a but a moment in time – enjoy it to the full but wisely guided by your higher self – that is why you have it now! > > Blessings - Jonathan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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