Detachment – Linda - Jonathon

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonathon and Linda,

 

something I found useful re detachment is the idea of 'transcend and include'...

what this means is that I get over my egoic attachment to feeling a certain way

(which is the transcend part), and then i get to use and embody these emotions

as a way of engaging and connecting with the world, through always from a

position of freedom

 

Jonathon - something which popped out at me reading your post is the idea of

perspectives. When I get rational and detached and analytical, I take a 3rd

person perspective on reality. When I feel and embody, I take a 1st person

perspective, and when I relate to another and find resonance with another, I

take a 2nd person perspective. the 1st, 2nd and 3rd perspectives equate to I,We

and It pronouns in language, and moving freely between these is important for

me.

 

I feel one of the challenges facing men (and this was also my challenge for a

long time) is the disowning of 1st and 2nd person perspectives and getting stuck

in rational analysis which drives woman nuts.. lol..

 

3,2,1.. love

Bruce

 

, " jonrow_2914 "

<jrowland wrote:

>

> In a post on relationships Linda, you indicated that in becoming the observer

in your personal circumstances you were able to detach from the self-blame and

the pain. Becoming the observer is great! What really caught my attention

however was your footnote - " love being detached " .

>

> Detachment is an interesting state in which to be but is one, I believe, that

you do not want to stay in for any longer than is necessary to clearly define

where you are in your current life.

> Like you I too considered detachment to be the answer. I felt emotions were a

feature of the physical only; after all, I `reasoned', our higher states (put

whatever label on makes you comfortable) were above emotion as that is a human

aspect and one driven by ego (fear, lust, desire, anger, sorrow etc). I worked

on becoming detached and I truly got there. I believe I was afforded this

opportunity to teach me what transpired to be a very valuable lesson. In that

state I found that everything I encountered on the physical had a sound and

rational explanation. All made perfect sense – people's actions, their motives,

their achievements, their cruelty. It was as though I was living my life from a

distance – understanding all but not being actively involved. Initially seeing

and understanding literally all in a logical and rational light was amazing.

Then the crunch came! I realised I no longer had any feeling for those I loved –

I was seeing them too in this detached light.

>

> Then the voice in my head (a sudden `knowing' more than a voice) told me that

this had been a lesson. That and subsequent experience taught me that while

emotion is generated on the physical it does have a place on the higher planes –

it adds to the richness of our lives and the positive aspects of emotional

experience are carried with us when we leave the physical. Before the initial

lesson on detachment finished, I was told that I should concentrate on those

positives while in the physical – see things in their true light and then

cultivate the emotions of joy, happiness, laughter, fairness, compassion,

empathy rather than the negatives like anger and hate. That lesson having been

taught my emotions were returned together with a corresponding decrease in the

level of knowing! The transition back was priceless as I am now able to share

emotion again with those I love. I also have a considerably greater

understanding of others since that exposure.

>

> You create emotion on the physical – it is an incredible gift and one that

enriches your life significantly. Uncontrolled it can also be a source of great

pain. Being closely aligned with the ego, it must be managed; the positives

grasped and the negatives set aside. To do so your decisions must be right and

you are here with the gift of being able to make decisions. Living with the

positives only is not as hard as it may sound – it really is all about choice.

>

> Do not become so detached that you lose that valuable human quality. Your

immortality is already a given – your physical presence is a but a moment in

time – enjoy it to the full but wisely guided by your higher self – that is why

you have it now!

>

> Blessings - Jonathan

>

[Guest guest]

or

1,2,3.. love

(smile)

-Danielle

 

Hugs

-Danielle

 

> Jonathon - something which popped out at me reading your post is the idea of

perspectives. >

> 3,2,1.. love

> Bruce

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce – I like your `position of freedom' approach!

 

Since `emerging' from that totally detached state I find that I am continuously

persons 1, 2 and 3 simultaneously which may sound like a contradiction in some

ways but all appears now in a much clearer perspective than ever before and

based very much on an unconditional love platform. That platform is the

moderator and catalyst to merge 1, 2 and 3. It allows you to honour,

understand, comprehend, empathise, be compassionate, remain detached as

necessary while also imposing some `tough love' where it is required! Something

of a chameleon effect by way of analogy?

 

Blessings - Jonathan