freedom surrendering

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Hi all..for me to surrender is to allow oneself to be guided into

choosing....may not always choose the best path but it is still on the way meant

for me through K....there is never only one way to do something...i feel guided

in my choice not totally without freedom...but gently/subtly sometimes not so

subtly shown the way.

 

may there be light and love in all your choices

M

 

 

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Julia Ahern <jajahern

 

Tue, December 1, 2009 1:06:39 AM

Re: Checking in..andy and bruce and

 

 

 

 

Hi Andy and Bruce and all

 

I would be very interested in hearing more discussion on Freedom.  I assume

that we will have different ways of looking at it and if others are ok with it I

would love to hear different view points.

 

If we assume that reincarnation is what occurs and karma is expressed

assimulated and experienced in our reincarnations,  are you saying that this

means we really do not have  free will.  So can I check, are you saying

whether  we emulate the best from within or  emulate the worst from within it

is not really our choice but a predetermined occurence??  

Perhaps this is not what you mean at all and I have misunderstood. 

I do not know a huge amouont about this subject but I do think that

reincarnation and Karma does not rule out personal choice and free will and

 personal responsibility.  I think God created laws and we can choose to be

either  lawful or not, but it is our free will which determines which we

choose, it is not predetermined. 

  Anyway those are my thoughts I would be really interested in hearing others

if they feel like sharing.

Love Julia.

 

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Andrew <andyrpreston@ .co. uk>

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1

Mon, November 30, 2009 9:45:40 PM

[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Checking in..

 

 

Interesting point Bruce, about our freedom.

 

I was thinking about just that the other day. I thought, If I am seeking

enlightenment, k-awakening and spiritual progression, then it will either happen

for me or it wont. If it does, it was always going to, and if it doesnt, it

never was...

 

I talked to my wife about that. Her thinking was that if I just relaxed and

stopped worrying about the futu..re I wouldn't put the effort in and things

wouldn't happen for me. I disagreed. I said, if its my future to put the effort

in, then I will. Hah ha! (she began ignoring me at that point and turned the tv

on)

 

As double dutch as that sounds, its also quite a relaxing thought. I cant do

anything about my future, its always going to unfold exactly how it will.

 

And I concur on the coffee, I gave it up for about 6 months, then started

drinking it again last week. Eugh, do I ever feel bad off it. Time to quit it

again for good I think. Green tea all the way lol

 

Andy