Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Chrism and all, I was wondering today/yesterday, is all dreams created by our higher selves or does the egoic mind create dreams as well? Since the physical and astral realms are illusions created by mind, could/would not dreams also be an illusion? I know that I have read somewhere that dreams come from the subconscious, but the subconsicous is part of the mind, right? I guess it is enough to keep up with what is truth in the physical, without concerning about the dream life, but this came up in my mind and thought I would ask what are the thoughts on this. What is the differences in consciousness and mind? Is consciousness a funtion of the mind or something that has nothing to do with the mind? Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Linda, What I have read that our higher self has knowledge of Awakened,dream ,sleepand Sushupti state.Even of past present and future.But as we are covered by Maya or illusion, we can not interpret dreams but can.Yesterday I was giving lecture on Yoga sutras.I refered to what had interpreted regarding my dream.Suddenly I was flooded with K similar to the river I had seen in my dream.Our higher self moves in subtler vehicle when we sleep.Some can remember those dreams.These clear dreams can give you knowledge of future events.Some times I could move from one dream to the same dream after waking for a short span.Actually I was in doubt if I should speak what had interpreted, but I dared to........shrikant ________________________________ danceswithcats999 <crazycats711 Wed, 2 December, 2009 1:37:53 PM Questions about Dreams  Chrism and all, I was wondering today/yesterday, is all dreams created by our higher selves or does the egoic mind create dreams as well? Since the physical and astral realms are illusions created by mind, could/would not dreams also be an illusion? I know that I have read somewhere that dreams come from the subconscious, but the subconsicous is part of the mind, right? I guess it is enough to keep up with what is truth in the physical, without concerning about the dream life, but this came up in my mind and thought I would ask what are the thoughts on this. What is the differences in consciousness and mind? Is consciousness a funtion of the mind or something that has nothing to do with the mind? Linda The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Linda The way I interpret this is that consciousness is the aspect that 'Knows before thought', the element that recognizes thoughts, sights, sounds and feelings, and dreams, and is itself free of these things. I view consciousness as existing prior to the mind and this birth, so in Zen, one of the koans is 'who were you before your parents were born?'. This is designed to get one in touch with our True Self, our Original Face, which is transcended of the body, time and space, and from which time, space and form is produced. This is teh same consiousness in all of us, and unites us in our fundamental identity. The mind, i interpret as being very personal, the part of being human that thinks, ie the ego, which most of us are trapped inside .. lol.. love Bruce > What is the differences in consciousness and mind? Is consciousness a funtion of the mind or something that has nothing to do with the mind? > > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 well .. you ask HARD questions .. so early in the morning lol... but here's how I see it : Consciousness is COHERENCE. Subconsciousness is like " in the back of your mind " -- you may relate this to AWARENESS. DREAMS, on the other hand, are the mind's release of thoughts, ideas, goals, wishes, or fragmented portions of memory. Rarely are dreams relevant to the conscious thought processes. DREAMS can also be manifestations of Spirit - Often times, there is a hidden message in the seemingly incoherent connections to the NOW. Astro travel -- is the spirit's perceived expression of " change " or desire to be or GO to another level. Metaphysically, the MIND never dies. In view of this concept... you could simply be revisiting an event of a past life... or possibly even a glimps into the future. It's a fascinating and thought provoking subject. The more we think about it, the more confusing it becomes .... OR the more POSSIBILITIES we may perceive. ***** > > What is the differences in consciousness and mind? Is consciousness a funtion of the mind or something that has nothing to do with the mind? > > > > Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Kundalini will use the dream life as a classroom. Yes the dreams of an individual can come from different sources. Many sources will communicate with a person in these areas. Our " meta physic " knowledge or our presumptions of knowledge in these areas from an ego mind placement will be subject to change! - lol! Consciousness to mind is as Salt is to the Ocean and vice versa. They are components of the human package for physical discernment and learning. My short take on it. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thank you, Shrikant, I can imaging that the people recieving your lecture were very blessed. Does ushupti state, mean trance state? Love, Linda , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Linda, > What I have read that our higher self has knowledge of Awakened,dream ,sleepand Sushupti state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dear Linda, Sushupti is peaceful state of deep sleep without dreams.It is not state of trance.In deep sleep and sushupti brain is functioning but contact with awareness is cut off.It is explained as engine of a car is running but car is  in neutral gear............shrikant ________________________________ danceswithcats999 <crazycats711 Thu, 3 December, 2009 3:39:20 AM Re: Questions about Dreams  Thank you, Shrikant, I can imaging that the people recieving your lecture were very blessed. Does ushupti state, mean trance state? Love, Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Linda, > What I have read that our higher self has knowledge of Awakened,dream ,sleepand Sushupti state. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thank you Chrism, I have had lots of those classroom type dreams. By source, your are saying other beings/people can communicate through or give you the dream or show up in your dream. So not all dream characters that are in your dream are aspects of yourself as dream intrep books say? I know you have taught us that kundalini communicates this way. Maybe sometime when you have some extra time you can write us an article on this subject and give us your long take, if it is the will of K. In much appreciation for all you do for us. Love, Linda , " " <> wrote: > > Kundalini will use the dream life as a classroom. Yes the dreams of an individual can come from different sources. Many sources will communicate with a person in these areas. Our " meta physic " knowledge or our presumptions of knowledge in these areas from an ego mind placement will be subject to change! - lol! Consciousness to mind is as Salt is to the Ocean and vice versa. They are components of the human package for physical discernment and learning. My short take on it. - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Denny, It is so good to see you back here posting. Thanks for your reply, you gave me more to think about. Hehe! I definitely agree with your last statments. Much love and blessings, linda , " Denny " <dennynorton wrote: > It's a fascinating and thought provoking subject. The more we think about it, the more confusing it becomes .... OR the more POSSIBILITIES we may perceive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thanks Shrikant, for the explanation for that word... in English the deep sleep stage is called Delta or Theta just before the Delta happens. That is when astral projection takes place. One has to train their mind to stay awake while the body falls into deep sleep, that is, if you would like to experience the astral in an aware state of mind. Love, Linda , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Linda, Sushupti is peaceful state of deep sleep without dreams.It is not state of trance.In deep sleep and sushupti brain is functioning but contact with awareness is cut off.It is explained as engine of a car is running but car is  in neutral gear............shrikant > > > > > ________________________________ > danceswithcats999 <crazycats711 > > Thu, 3 December, 2009 3:39:20 AM > Re: Questions about Dreams > >  > Thank you, Shrikant, I can imaging that the people recieving your lecture were very blessed. Does ushupti state, mean trance state? > > Love, > Linda > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Linda, > > What I have read that our higher self has knowledge of Awakened,dream ,sleepand Sushupti state. > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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