Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things that are happening! I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological, debilitating disease. So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!) Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on possession. (Thankfully so.) Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away, convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them. After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been correct in that assumption. However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.) FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane, but my body went " insane. " The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements (mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read, Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness. (Such as attachments and resistances.) But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot (???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams (and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc. I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because it interferes with my ability to work and drive. Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here? Thanks! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 hi deb catholism does have alot to answer to it has kept scriptures and knowledge hidden all in order to keep its power. it is reminant of the roman empire now of cause constued as the holy roman empire. satan is the adversary it sounds very similar to saturn it takes about seven years to return to the same conjectu with the earth and the sun, it is why every seventh year your sins are forgiven, lucifer is the first star that rises in the morning otherwise known as venus. devil or de=evolution maybe asociated with fear and guilt. there are entities who wish to exsperience the human form and it may be the reason why you have taken such a form yourself. so ask yourself who you are, sanctify everything and allow your devine life shine through. Have faith in christ and his teachings with the knowlege that your sins are prepaid. I am not a preacher, if one is tied up with religous dogma it is no different than being tied by anti religous dogma the ropes are just a different color. Being free to exspress the inner self is the goal Love John , Deb111222 wrote: > > My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things that are happening! > > I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological, debilitating disease. > > So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!) Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on possession. (Thankfully so.) > > Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away, convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them. After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been correct in that assumption. > > However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.) > > FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane, but my body went " insane. " > > The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements (mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read, Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness. (Such as attachments and resistances.) > > But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot (???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams (and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc. > > I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because it interferes with my ability to work and drive. > > Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here? > > Thanks! > > Deb > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Welcome back Deb, I am only here a few months but I am so grateful for having found or for having being brought to KAS. I can relate to everything you have said as I was raised a catholic too and most of the K sympthoms and what was shown given and experienced by me was not within my social, cultural or religious reference... well except for the possesion bit of course... I had a bit of a detour with that all right! I also had an MRI done back in the early 90's because of sensations and numbness and heat and crawling ants and othere stuff in the right side of my head. When one knows nothing of K it is a normal reaction to weird sympthoms!! Now I can reframe what was once perceived as " weird " to K normal and I accept it all as normal now that I know about me in K and K in me. It is wonderful and it wil be so for you too. For me letting go of the fear and being prepareed to let all my conditioning drop and to surrender to what was happening made all the difference and then getting the support and teaching form was the icing on the cake. My face twitched for weeks and weeks some months back, but I then able to accept and surrendeer as K working in me and I just allowed her to carry on unimpeaded by any resistance..Idid not scratch or rub my face nose mouth or eyes...( it did on occasion get to me but I would quickly surrendeer again) Then one day it was finished, over. The same will happen you ... everything has its time and then it passes. Tingling at bed time and breath stopping as well as " heart attacks " waking up choking or with no breath etc (I could also write a book) all ceased to be a problem when I came into surrender and no resistance. I am not sure about blocked chakras...I have wondered about those too... at this stage in time I am finding that by doing the safeties given here and then surrendering to whatever K brings is the beswt way to go...no judgement on myself or my chakras. I figure K will sort out all of that in her own way and in her own time as long as I do not resist or put road blocks in her way. You are sane and your body is actually sane as well.... you will come to know this deb...in fact I am sure you know this already, just trust and believe it to be so. K will communicate to you ... it took me a long long time to listen... a long long learning curve. I am still a practicing Catholic and while I have some struggles within that area, K has graced me with seeing into some areas that were not very clear to me before. Fear is to be forgotten and love and surrendeer embraced for the journey ahead.... welcome. Love Julia. , Deb111222 wrote: > > My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things that are happening! > > I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological, debilitating disease. > > So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!) Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on possession. (Thankfully so.) > > Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away, convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them. After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been correct in that assumption. > > However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.) > > FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane, but my body went " insane. " > > The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements (mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read, Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness. (Such as attachments and resistances.) > > But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot (???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams (and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc. > > I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because it interferes with my ability to work and drive. > > Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here? > > Thanks! > > Deb > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Deb, Your symptoms are looked upon by many here as blessings. Many of your symptoms are beautiful indicators of the divine awakening within you. Please follow the safeties that has given us. Realize that many of your experiences depend on how you think about them. By following the safeties you may smoothen your journey a great deal. The Kundalini can amplify all your experiences, so let it amplify the love, the joy, the gratitude and other wonderful qualities rather than less desirable things. You are in good company here. Many are sharing similar experiences that you are having now. Please share more, relate, ask questions. be well! bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Deb- It's nice to meet you. Welcome back. Welcome too to Mark and all the others whom I have not had the chance to acknowledge. A warm embrace and hello to the new " Lurksville " residents too. Blessings & Peace: ~Danielle , Deb111222 wrote: > > My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Deb, Welcome back! Only advice I can offer is to take a hard close look at the safeties as they are described on the main web site and see in what ways you can begin to incorporate them into your life. Or deepen your acceptance of them if you are already practicing them. You have been blessed, not cursed. Many of the things you currently view as " problems " are signs and symptoms of the awakening of the Divinity that dwells within you. As much as you can embrace them rather than struggle against them I believe your perception of the experiences will be transformed from concern into joyful acceptance and unfoldment. The safeties can help with this transformation of attention. They also can help with moderating the experiences somewhat to help you to continue to function in the world while simultaneously undergoing Divine transformation within. Love and blessings, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Deb, I am a practicing Catholic and i also love my Shakti and Kundalini. yours in Christ, edgar ________________________________ " Deb111222 " <Deb111222 Tue, December 15, 2009 9:45:55 PM (Re) Introduction My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things that are happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Deb, welcome I am a practising Christian, honoring all paths and had to heal from my Christian background before embracing it again.. and re the kundalini, your symptoms sound very similiar to what I went through, and all coming together at times... the safeties, long walks and stretching are good.. love Bruce , Deb111222 wrote: > > My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things that are happening! > > I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological, debilitating disease. > > So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!) Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on possession. (Thankfully so.) > > Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away, convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them. After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been correct in that assumption. > > However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.) > > FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane, but my body went " insane. " > > The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements (mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read, Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness. (Such as attachments and resistances.) > > But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot (???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams (and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc. > > I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because it interferes with my ability to work and drive. > > Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here? > > Thanks! > > Deb > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I very much appreciate so many compassionate responses here, and many thanks for helping to calm my fears about the " possession " issues! That was a major biggie fear for me, mostly because that is what it felt like much of the time and I did worry that my spiritual intent seemed to have gone badly wrong. It is a great comfort to hear the reassurances that this is a blessing and not a curse, for that is most important to me. I have been practicing some of the safeties when I think about it and doing stretching, etc. My habit is that things need to make logical sense for me to accept them as true, and intellectually I know my intent and believe that the Divine loves without condition. Emotionally feeling it is more of a challenge though, I find. Thanks for pointing out that the K magnifies things and how important it is to focus on the positive, so that is what will be magnified. This really resonated with me, and what I have been trying to work on. I also appreciate the Christian support here. That helps me tremendously. I realize that I have trouble grasping the " feminine " side of God for a couple of reasons. For one, I have had a somewhat troubled relationship with my own mother, and also because I was raised to think of God as masculine somehow. So thinking of God as feminine is a stretch for me. One of the issues that I need to surrender to, it seems. I find that as long as I am active and moving, I seem to do better, but as soon as I get still - Whoa! It is getting harder and harder to remain still. The buzzing gets really loud and I find that I go into waking trances much more easily, which freaks me out. I have to shake my head or touch my face or throat to " snap out of it. " This is such an active forum! So having trouble remembering who said what! But also a very positive forum overall, and that feels good. I will do my best to let go of the resistance and surrender more. Thank you all so much for the support. Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi Deb Think of that the constinents YHWH Equals father son mother daughter. also honour thy mother and father , Deb111222 wrote: > > > I very much appreciate so many compassionate responses here, and many thanks for helping to calm my fears about the " possession " issues! That was a major biggie fear for me, mostly because that is what it felt like much of the time and I did worry that my spiritual intent seemed to have gone badly wrong. It is a great comfort to hear the reassurances that this is a blessing and not a curse, for that is most important to me. I have been practicing some of the safeties when I think about it and doing stretching, etc. > > My habit is that things need to make logical sense for me to accept them as true, and intellectually I know my intent and believe that the Divine loves without condition. Emotionally feeling it is more of a challenge though, I find. Thanks for pointing out that the K magnifies things and how important it is to focus on the positive, so that is what will be magnified. This really resonated with me, and what I have been trying to work on. > > I also appreciate the Christian support here. That helps me tremendously. I realize that I have trouble grasping the " feminine " side of God for a couple of reasons. For one, I have had a somewhat troubled relationship with my own mother, and also because I was raised to think of God as masculine somehow. So thinking of God as feminine is a stretch for me. One of the issues that I need to surrender to, it seems. > > I find that as long as I am active and moving, I seem to do better, but as soon as I get still - Whoa! It is getting harder and harder to remain still. The buzzing gets really loud and I find that I go into waking trances much more easily, which freaks me out. I have to shake my head or touch my face or throat to " snap out of it. " > > This is such an active forum! So having trouble remembering who said what! But also a very positive forum overall, and that feels good. I will do my best to let go of the resistance and surrender more. Thank you all so much for the support. > > Love, > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Think of that the constinents YHWH Equals father son mother daughter. also honour thy mother and father Yes, great idea, John! I certainly have no problem with anyone else seeing the feminine aspects of God. I only meant that I am becoming aware of my own " lack of awareness " in this area. Kind of like a " blind spot " that I never really thought about until lately. It was there, I just wasn't seeing it. But now, I am beginning to, and this is a good thing. Expansion of awareness is always a good thing, and a never ending process! Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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