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My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I

was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from

my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a

stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange

things that are happening!

 

I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I

have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background

conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological,

debilitating disease.

 

So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come

back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings

me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!)

Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a

neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on

possession. (Thankfully so.)

 

Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full

force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much

more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had

been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away,

convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them.

After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been

correct in that assumption.

 

However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time

without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my

neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms

that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or

require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.)

 

FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat

again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point

where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane,

but my body went " insane. "

 

The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements

(mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my

right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read,

Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For

me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness.

(Such as attachments and resistances.)

 

But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle

weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand

hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling

asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot

(???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling

in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams

(and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish

conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to

clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this

happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling

asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc.

 

I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like

to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers

and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial

tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to

stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be

blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I

would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because

it interferes with my ability to work and drive.

 

Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of

you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here?

 

Thanks!

 

Deb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hi deb catholism does have alot to answer to

it has kept scriptures and knowledge hidden all in order to keep its power. it

is reminant of the roman empire now of cause constued as the holy roman empire.

satan is the adversary it sounds very similar to saturn it takes about seven

years to return to the same conjectu with the earth and the sun, it is why every

seventh year your sins are forgiven,

 

lucifer is the first star that rises in the morning otherwise known as venus.

 

devil or de=evolution maybe asociated with fear and guilt.

 

there are entities who wish to exsperience the human form and it may be the

reason why you have taken such a form yourself. so ask yourself who you are,

sanctify everything and allow your devine life shine through. Have faith in

christ and his teachings with the knowlege that your sins are prepaid.

I am not a preacher, if one is tied up with religous dogma it is no different

than being tied by anti religous dogma the ropes are just a different color.

Being free to exspress the inner self is the goal

 

Love John

 

, Deb111222 wrote:

>

> My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I

was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from

my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a

stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange

things that are happening!

>

> I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I

have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background

conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological,

debilitating disease.

>

> So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come

back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings

me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!)

Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a

neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on

possession. (Thankfully so.)

>

> Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full

force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much

more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had

been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away,

convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them.

After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been

correct in that assumption.

>

> However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time

without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my

neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms

that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or

require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.)

>

> FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat

again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point

where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane,

but my body went " insane. "

>

> The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements

(mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my

right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read,

Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For

me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness.

(Such as attachments and resistances.)

>

> But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle

weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand

hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling

asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot

(???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling

in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams

(and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish

conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to

clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this

happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling

asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc.

>

> I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like

to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers

and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial

tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to

stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be

blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I

would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because

it interferes with my ability to work and drive.

>

> Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of

you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Deb

>

>

>

>

 

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Welcome back Deb, I am only here a few months but I am so grateful for having

found or for having being brought to KAS.

 

I can relate to everything you have said as I was raised a catholic too and most

of the K sympthoms and what was shown given and experienced by me was not within

my social, cultural or religious reference... well except for the possesion bit

of course... I had a bit of a detour with that all right!

 

I also had an MRI done back in the early 90's because of sensations and numbness

and heat and crawling ants and othere stuff in the right side of my head. When

one knows nothing of K it is a normal reaction to weird sympthoms!! Now I can

reframe what was once perceived as " weird " to K normal and I accept it all as

normal now that I know about me in K and K in me. It is wonderful and it wil be

so for you too.

 

For me letting go of the fear and being prepareed to let all my conditioning

drop and to surrender to what was happening made all the difference and then

getting the support and teaching form was the icing on the cake.

My face twitched for weeks and weeks some months back, but I then able to accept

and surrendeer as K working in me and I just allowed her to carry on unimpeaded

by any resistance..Idid not scratch or rub my face nose mouth or eyes...( it did

on occasion get to me but I would quickly surrendeer again) Then one day it

was finished, over.

The same will happen you ... everything has its time and then it passes.

Tingling at bed time and breath stopping as well as " heart attacks " waking up

choking or with no breath etc (I could also write a book) all ceased to be a

problem when I came into surrender and no resistance.

I am not sure about blocked chakras...I have wondered about those too... at this

stage in time I am finding that by doing the safeties given here and then

surrendering to whatever K brings is the beswt way to go...no judgement on

myself or my chakras.

I figure K will sort out all of that in her own way and in her own time as long

as I do not resist or put road blocks in her way.

 

You are sane and your body is actually sane as well.... you will come to know

this deb...in fact I am sure you know this already, just trust and believe it to

be so.

K will communicate to you ... it took me a long long time to listen... a long

long learning curve.

I am still a practicing Catholic and while I have some struggles within that

area, K has graced me with seeing into some areas that were not very clear to me

before.

Fear is to be forgotten and love and surrendeer embraced for the journey

ahead.... welcome.

Love Julia.

 

 

, Deb111222 wrote:

>

> My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I

was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from

my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a

stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange

things that are happening!

>

> I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I

have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background

conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological,

debilitating disease.

>

> So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come

back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings

me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!)

Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a

neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on

possession. (Thankfully so.)

>

> Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full

force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much

more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had

been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away,

convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them.

After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been

correct in that assumption.

>

> However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time

without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my

neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms

that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or

require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.)

>

> FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat

again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point

where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane,

but my body went " insane. "

>

> The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements

(mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my

right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read,

Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For

me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness.

(Such as attachments and resistances.)

>

> But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle

weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand

hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling

asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot

(???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling

in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams

(and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish

conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to

clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this

happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling

asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc.

>

> I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like

to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers

and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial

tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to

stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be

blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I

would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because

it interferes with my ability to work and drive.

>

> Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of

you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Deb

>

>

>

>

 

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Hi Deb,

 

Your symptoms are looked upon by many here as blessings. Many of your symptoms

are beautiful indicators of the divine awakening within you.

 

Please follow the safeties that has given us. Realize that many of your

experiences depend on how you think about them. By following the safeties you

may smoothen your journey a great deal. The Kundalini can amplify all your

experiences, so let it amplify the love, the joy, the gratitude and other

wonderful qualities rather than less desirable things.

 

You are in good company here. Many are sharing similar experiences that you are

having now. Please share more, relate, ask questions.

 

be well!

 

bradly

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Hi Deb-

It's nice to meet you. Welcome back.

 

Welcome too to Mark and all the others whom I have not had the chance to

acknowledge. A warm embrace and hello to the new " Lurksville " residents too.

 

Blessings & Peace:

~Danielle

 

 

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> My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself

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Deb,

 

Welcome back!

 

Only advice I can offer is to take a hard close look at the safeties as they are

described on the main web site and see in what ways you can begin to incorporate

them into your life. Or deepen your acceptance of them if you are already

practicing them.

 

You have been blessed, not cursed. Many of the things you currently view as

" problems " are signs and symptoms of the awakening of the Divinity that dwells

within you. As much as you can embrace them rather than struggle against them I

believe your perception of the experiences will be transformed from concern into

joyful acceptance and unfoldment. The safeties can help with this

transformation of attention. They also can help with moderating the experiences

somewhat to help you to continue to function in the world while simultaneously

undergoing Divine transformation within.

 

Love and blessings,

 

David

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Hi Deb,

 

I am a practicing Catholic and i also love my Shakti and Kundalini.

 

yours in Christ,

edgar

 

 

 

 

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Tue, December 15, 2009 9:45:55 PM

(Re) Introduction

 

 

My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I was

here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from my

conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a stretch

for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange things

that are happening!

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Deb,

 

welcome :) I am a practising Christian, honoring all paths and had to heal from

my Christian background before embracing it again..

 

and re the kundalini, your symptoms sound very similiar to what I went through,

and all coming together at times...

 

the safeties, long walks and stretching are good.. :)

 

love

Bruce

 

, Deb111222 wrote:

>

> My name is Deb and I would like to (re) introduce myself to the group. I

was here about three years ago. At that time, this was all a far stretch from

my conditioned beliefs. Being raised Catholic, it is still somewhat of a

stretch for me, but appears to be the only explanation for some of the strange

things that are happening!

>

> I could write a book, but to keep a long story as short as possible, I

have been quite afraid. Afraid of being possessed (based on background

conditioning) and afraid of having some sort of brain damage or neurological,

debilitating disease.

>

> So, after another re-emergence of these strange " symptoms, " I have come

back to my investigation of Kundalini and find that the whole concept now brings

me much more comfort than all of the above! (No surprise there, I suppose!)

Some of the things that have been happening have been too strange for a

neurological problem, and yet in some ways, too beautiful to blame on

possession. (Thankfully so.)

>

> Last year in November and December, this energy unleashed itself full

force. (There had been minor clues for many years previous, but this was much

more drastic.) I blamed it on some brain synchronization meditation CD's I had

been listening to, since this triggered the " worst of it, " and threw them away,

convincing myself that my brain would heal if I would just stay away from them.

After several weeks, the " symptoms " subsided and I thought I must have been

correct in that assumption.

>

> However, this November, they came back again full force (but this time

without the aid of meditation cds.) I went to the doctor, they did an MRI on my

neck and found two bulging discs, but the neurosurgeon said that the symptoms

that I was experiencing were not " typical " to have been caused by that or

require surgery. (Again, thankfully so.)

>

> FINALLY, the last couple of days, the symptoms have subsided somewhat

again, and I can't say that I am not grateful for that. But, I am to the point

where I cannot deny what has been happening any longer. I am perfectly sane,

but my body went " insane. "

>

> The most frightening aspect of this has been involuntary facial movements

(mostly when falling asleep) and I temporarily lost the ability to type with my

right hand and almost drive with my right foot. From what I have read,

Kundalini energy most typically manifests in the left foot, so go figure. For

me, it was the right. It has brought all kinds of things into my awareness.

(Such as attachments and resistances.)

>

> But there is so much more. Such as leg vibrations, EXTREME muscle

weakness, FREEZING cold when falling asleep at night, right hand cold, left hand

hot, tingling in the crown chakra, involuntary " gasps for air " when falling

asleep, seeing through closed eyelids (on occasion), left buttock very hot

(???), facial tics (mostly the mouth), and mostly when falling asleep, tingling

in the nose and forehead, tingling in the left elbow, extremely vivid dreams

(and nightmares), which I now recognize as warnings, hearing Spanish

conversations in my head (and I have a month later, hired some Spanish people to

clean my house), left eye twitching (way too much) during meditation (this

happened before I stopped the meditation), extreme jerks and jumps when falling

asleep, being awakened from sleep with involuntary movements, etc.

>

> I will stop here, since this is getting way too long already. Would like

to know if anyone can see the connection between heightened energy in Novembers

and Decembers, and what chakra could be blocked that would cause these facial

tics and involuntary movements of the mouth (because I would very much like to

stop that once and for all.) Also would like to know what chakra could be

blocked that could be causing the weakness in the right hand and foot (because I

would like to stop that once and for all also.) This is very important because

it interferes with my ability to work and drive.

>

> Okay - enough for now! Your input would be greatly appreciated. Some of

you may remember me. Is Master Stephen Condrey still here?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Deb

>

>

>

>

 

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I very much appreciate so many compassionate responses here, and many

thanks for helping to calm my fears about the " possession " issues! That was a

major biggie fear for me, mostly because that is what it felt like much of the

time and I did worry that my spiritual intent seemed to have gone badly wrong.

It is a great comfort to hear the reassurances that this is a blessing and not a

curse, for that is most important to me. I have been practicing some of the

safeties when I think about it and doing stretching, etc.

 

My habit is that things need to make logical sense for me to accept them as

true, and intellectually I know my intent and believe that the Divine loves

without condition. Emotionally feeling it is more of a challenge though, I

find. Thanks for pointing out that the K magnifies things and how important it

is to focus on the positive, so that is what will be magnified. This really

resonated with me, and what I have been trying to work on.

 

I also appreciate the Christian support here. That helps me tremendously.

I realize that I have trouble grasping the " feminine " side of God for a couple

of reasons. For one, I have had a somewhat troubled relationship with my own

mother, and also because I was raised to think of God as masculine somehow. So

thinking of God as feminine is a stretch for me. One of the issues that I need

to surrender to, it seems.

 

I find that as long as I am active and moving, I seem to do better, but as

soon as I get still - Whoa! It is getting harder and harder to remain still.

The buzzing gets really loud and I find that I go into waking trances much more

easily, which freaks me out. I have to shake my head or touch my face or throat

to " snap out of it. "

 

This is such an active forum! So having trouble remembering who said what!

But also a very positive forum overall, and that feels good. I will do my best

to let go of the resistance and surrender more. Thank you all so much for the

support.

 

Love,

Deb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Deb

Think of that the constinents YHWH Equals father son mother daughter.

also

honour thy mother and father

 

 

, Deb111222 wrote:

>

>

> I very much appreciate so many compassionate responses here, and many

thanks for helping to calm my fears about the " possession " issues! That was a

major biggie fear for me, mostly because that is what it felt like much of the

time and I did worry that my spiritual intent seemed to have gone badly wrong.

It is a great comfort to hear the reassurances that this is a blessing and not a

curse, for that is most important to me. I have been practicing some of the

safeties when I think about it and doing stretching, etc.

>

> My habit is that things need to make logical sense for me to accept them

as true, and intellectually I know my intent and believe that the Divine loves

without condition. Emotionally feeling it is more of a challenge though, I

find. Thanks for pointing out that the K magnifies things and how important it

is to focus on the positive, so that is what will be magnified. This really

resonated with me, and what I have been trying to work on.

>

> I also appreciate the Christian support here. That helps me

tremendously. I realize that I have trouble grasping the " feminine " side of God

for a couple of reasons. For one, I have had a somewhat troubled relationship

with my own mother, and also because I was raised to think of God as masculine

somehow. So thinking of God as feminine is a stretch for me. One of the issues

that I need to surrender to, it seems.

>

> I find that as long as I am active and moving, I seem to do better, but

as soon as I get still - Whoa! It is getting harder and harder to remain still.

The buzzing gets really loud and I find that I go into waking trances much more

easily, which freaks me out. I have to shake my head or touch my face or throat

to " snap out of it. "

>

> This is such an active forum! So having trouble remembering who said

what! But also a very positive forum overall, and that feels good. I will do

my best to let go of the resistance and surrender more. Thank you all so much

for the support.

>

> Love,

> Deb

 

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Think of that the constinents YHWH Equals father son mother daughter.

also

honour thy mother and father

 

 

 

 

Yes, great idea, John! I certainly have no problem with anyone else seeing

the feminine aspects of God. I only meant that I am becoming aware of my own

" lack of awareness " in this area. Kind of like a " blind spot " that I never

really thought about until lately. It was there, I just wasn't seeing it. But

now, I am beginning to, and this is a good thing. Expansion of awareness is

always a good thing, and a never ending process!

 

Love,

Deb

 

 

 

 

 

 

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