Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Doing some sorting again here! The energy has calmed down the past 3 - 4 days, so therefore I am calming down as well. What used to be weakness seems to have turned to stiffness. The most recent thing that has come into my awareness is that the past two days, my pinky finger is extending (spreading out from the other fingers.) This brought into my awareness that whenever I drink from a cup, I have been unconciously placing my pinky finger at the bottom of the cup. (Probably been doing that all of my life, but never noticed until now.) I am not very familiar with yoga, so therefore don't know what a yoga kriya is supposed to do. What I have noticed is that the spontaneous movements that I have experienced are bringing into my awareness instead, habits or repetitive movements. Such as the pinky one mentioned above. But also the " click finger " because I am on the computer so much, pointing the foot when driving, etc. One time, my shoulders spontaneously pulled backwards once in my sleep and woke me up. Another time, my shoulders shrugged upwards spontaneously in my sleep. A few days ago when I was having terrible fear, I decided that I needed to recreate a " joyous " emotion. So, I remembered when I was a child and had lots of energy and used to run and jump. I decided to try it (very weird for me now) and I ran and jumped a few times and then named it the " happy dance " which my dog thoroughly enjoyed doing with me. That night, my feet spontaneously recreated the " jump " in my sleep. One thing that puzzles me is this: I had come to believe that spiritual enlightenment meant to identify with the Spiritual Self and " give no thought to the body. " Yet, instead, since the K became active again this last month, I find that I am totally preoccupied with the body. So I am wondering, why this preoccupation with the body if we are supposed to be losing identity with the body? Work has gotten better, except maybe in the mornings I am feeling a little " out of it, " like I am not in control of my body, and then I take an anti-anxiety pill and then I am okay the rest of the day. Tonight, I listened to Chrism's wav files and then did the 5 Tibetans again. This is the first time in a long time that I did the whole round. Although I have done a moderated version for some time now. (Lazy, I guess.) I drank water and ate carrots tonight. I did a meditation for about an hour praying for clarity and just experienced extreme cold (which I sometimes wonder if this is not extreme goosebumps) and my right hand did this thing on its own, but it didn't last. Probably because the phone rang. Before all of this started, I was very deep into an internet project when all of a sudden I couldn't type. That is what led me back here and I put the whole internet project on hold and realized I needed to do some introspection. (Or rather, I had no choice.) As you can see, the typing ability has returned pretty good. I am seeing Kundalini in a whole new light. Three years ago, it was way too radical for me and I thought it was totally weird (no offense to anyone.) Now I realize that I am equally weird, so now it feels comforting because " weirdness needs company! " LOL! Denial isn't working anymore. It is not like I can deny that my body is freaking out. I am reinterpreting the safeties as a beautiful thing. Apparently, I needed to integrate this experience before moving forward with my internet project, and not sure where to go with it now, so that is why I am praying for clarity. Right now, my two top priorities are clarity and the ability to function and communicate. All in all, I am improving and thank the group for helping me to feel less frightened about the whole thing. Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Hi Deb, What you did when you felt fear is exactly what suggests. Recall a joyful time and bring this to mind and experience the joy in the present. Well done! You asked "  So I am wondering, why this preoccupation with the body if we are supposed to be losing identity with the body? "   What I have come to know for myself is that because of the " preoccupation with the body " my awareness and perception of my body has changed dramatically.  I now " know and feel " it as seperate from me, ( i always knew in theory but now I am living it) My body is a gift given to me, and I am loving and respecting it in a way that I have not done previously. I know and experience my body to be a temple and I am very thankful to it for all it does to serve that purpose, and to serve me. I wish to care for it and nourish it and look after it. My body is the place my spirit/soul lives, where shakti lives. In my body God has eyes, God has ears.... my body can do service for God.   I really do not understand it all but I do know that the " preoccupation " and the work that is done by K on and within the body somehow gives freedom to the body in a way I had not experienced before. For me this has taken some time and it is still in process but I am recognising the relationship I have with my body and it has been K who has shown this to me.. Be not afraid Deb. All is well. Love Julia  ________________________________ " Deb111222 " <Deb111222 Fri, December 18, 2009 5:37:20 AM The Body  Doing some sorting again here! The energy has calmed down the past 3 - 4 days, so therefore I am calming down as well. What used to be weakness seems to have turned to stiffness. The most recent thing that has come into my awareness is that the past two days, my pinky finger is extending (spreading out from the other fingers.) This brought into my awareness that whenever I drink from a cup, I have been unconciously placing my pinky finger at the bottom of the cup. (Probably been doing that all of my life, but never noticed until now.) I am not very familiar with yoga, so therefore don't know what a yoga kriya is supposed to do. What I have noticed is that the spontaneous movements that I have experienced are bringing into my awareness instead, habits or repetitive movements. Such as the pinky one mentioned above. But also the " click finger " because I am on the computer so much, pointing the foot when driving, etc. One time, my shoulders spontaneously pulled backwards once in my sleep and woke me up. Another time, my shoulders shrugged upwards spontaneously in my sleep. A few days ago when I was having terrible fear, I decided that I needed to recreate a " joyous " emotion. So, I remembered when I was a child and had lots of energy and used to run and jump. I decided to try it (very weird for me now) and I ran and jumped a few times and then named it the " happy dance " which my dog thoroughly enjoyed doing with me. That night, my feet spontaneously recreated the " jump " in my sleep. One thing that puzzles me is this: I had come to believe that spiritual enlightenment meant to identify with the Spiritual Self and " give no thought to the body. " Yet, instead, since the K became active again this last month, I find that I am totally preoccupied with the body. So I am wondering, why this preoccupation with the body if we are supposed to be losing identity with the body? Work has gotten better, except maybe in the mornings I am feeling a little " out of it, " like I am not in control of my body, and then I take an anti-anxiety pill and then I am okay the rest of the day. Tonight, I listened to Chrism's wav files and then did the 5 Tibetans again. This is the first time in a long time that I did the whole round. Although I have done a moderated version for some time now. (Lazy, I guess.) I drank water and ate carrots tonight. I did a meditation for about an hour praying for clarity and just experienced extreme cold (which I sometimes wonder if this is not extreme goosebumps) and my right hand did this thing on its own, but it didn't last. Probably because the phone rang. Before all of this started, I was very deep into an internet project when all of a sudden I couldn't type. That is what led me back here and I put the whole internet project on hold and realized I needed to do some introspection. (Or rather, I had no choice.) As you can see, the typing ability has returned pretty good. I am seeing Kundalini in a whole new light. Three years ago, it was way too radical for me and I thought it was totally weird (no offense to anyone.) Now I realize that I am equally weird, so now it feels comforting because " weirdness needs company! " LOL! Denial isn't working anymore. It is not like I can deny that my body is freaking out. I am reinterpreting the safeties as a beautiful thing. Apparently, I needed to integrate this experience before moving forward with my internet project, and not sure where to go with it now, so that is why I am praying for clarity. Right now, my two top priorities are clarity and the ability to function and communicate. All in all, I am improving and thank the group for helping me to feel less frightened about the whole thing. Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Julia: What I have come to know for myself is that because of the " preoccupation with the body " my awareness and perception of my body has changed dramatically. I now " know and feel " it as seperate from me, ( i always knew in theory but now I am living it) My body is a gift given to me, and I am loving and respecting it in a way that I have not done previously. Deb: Yes, I know what you mean, Julia - that is exactly what is happening to me! That deal with the twitching in the face gave me this incredible fascination and appreciation for the complexity of our bodies and what they do for us. And I am also much more appreciative and being much kinder to the body. Last year when it happened, I remember layin in bed and just observing what was happening and thinking how strange, but as you say, it seemed " separate " from me. Like I was observing it. I still need to give up the resistance to stop smoking, though. My ego is really fighting that one big time, but I know if I would do it, the experience of all of this would be so much more pleasant. You know you're addicted when your face contorts whenever you light up and you STILL smoke! However, the number has been reduced dramatically. Just can't quite let go all the way. Also, having a couple of drinks makes my legs vibrate and drinking coffee upsets my stomach now. So, still some resistance there, too. I'm finding it very challenging to become quite that perfect! That was not in my plans! So, not there yet, but very much aware of what K is requesting of me. I very much appreciate your perspective, Julia. Thank you so much for your kindness. Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Deb, From one ex smoker, who  is far far from perfect..lol! This is going to sound silly, well probably will sound like very bad advice, it is from my own expeerience so it is of course very subjective, so take it as that for what it might be worth to you, or not. I suggest that you let go of the insistance that you give up the smoking! It is known you want to stop feeding your body niccotine. It has been known for a while and as you listen more and more to K and to your bodym this known information will change and touch you deeply. So for now, don't let your ego keep you engaged with that battle. Listen and be quiet. One day, I just know it, the desire to put nicotine into your body will just leave you. Seriously it will leave you and you will stop somoking. Sounds to easy to be true...it is! lol! Love Julia ________________________________ " Deb111222 " <Deb111222 Fri, December 18, 2009 4:03:19 PM Re: The Body  Julia: What I have come to know for myself is that because of the " preoccupation with the body " my awareness and perception of my body has changed dramatically. I now " know and feel " it as seperate from me, ( i always knew in theory but now I am living it) My body is a gift given to me, and I am loving and respecting it in a way that I have not done previously. Deb: Yes, I know what you mean, Julia - that is exactly what is happening to me! That deal with the twitching in the face gave me this incredible fascination and appreciation for the complexity of our bodies and what they do for us. And I am also much more appreciative and being much kinder to the body. Last year when it happened, I remember layin in bed and just observing what was happening and thinking how strange, but as you say, it seemed " separate " from me. Like I was observing it. I still need to give up the resistance to stop smoking, though. My ego is really fighting that one big time, but I know if I would do it, the experience of all of this would be so much more pleasant. You know you're addicted when your face contorts whenever you light up and you STILL smoke! However, the number has been reduced dramatically. Just can't quite let go all the way. Also, having a couple of drinks makes my legs vibrate and drinking coffee upsets my stomach now. So, still some resistance there, too. I'm finding it very challenging to become quite that perfect! That was not in my plans! So, not there yet, but very much aware of what K is requesting of me. I very much appreciate your perspective, Julia. Thank you so much for your kindness. Love, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Thank you Julia - I have wondered the same thing, since I do seem to be smoking less and less, that maybe one day I just wouldn't want it at all anymore. It could happen! Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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