Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Diane, I sure know that feeling  of being alienated from others. I have changed my ways in relation to this as the years have passed. I have left  various " groups " because to remain meant that I was not being true to my authentic self and rather than stay I began to learn that I really had no choice but to leave. Being able to leave and to do so with love has been a long learning curve for me, and has only began to happen in the last few years. There used to be some grieving involved but the grieving was about what was not there for me,  if that makes any sense. I could give you a few examples, but the last one happened very recently, and it was the best experience so far.   I made the decision to leave my much loved philosophy school. I was, as you phrased it " unknown and unaccepted " and while the folks there would not perceive this to be the case at all, it most certainly was the case. If I had remained I believe that I myself,  would have been the one isolating my authentic self, placing her away from myself because she could not participate in their " rules of engagement " as it were. I have trained for group work and counselling work too but there is nothing to say this particular work must be carried out as one originally began to do it. It is important to relate to others but if the relating to our authentic selves is put aside in order to do this I am sure that is not good for us at all.  At leat that is what I learned about me. I am so glad that for me I stopped staying in certain situations where I was not really known or accepted and was able to finish and disconnect with love for everyone there. My authentic self has been very grateful that I did. I honoured her in the process and this new way of being is actually healing and somehow offers me great relief and freedom. Just my own experience of some of the changes that have occured for me, with much gratitude to kundalini shakti. Love Julia. ________________________________ Diane Baugh <cdgbdronningen Fri, December 18, 2009 9:06:50 PM Re: What is this death?  --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Diane Baugh <cdgbdronningen@ > wrote: DearDanielleAndAll:  InAdditionToEarlier PostINeedToClari fyWhatIMeanInReg ardToBeingAuthen ticAndBeing AlienatedFromOthers :  ItIsAMatterOfIntegr ityToMeThatIBeTr ueToWhoIAm, ButThatDoesNotMe anIHaveTo RevealEverythingAbo utWhoIAmToEveryO ne.ButGenerallyS peaking,IHaveBee nOpen AndHonestWithThoseC losestToMe, AndHaveFoundThem ToBeVeryPuzzledB yMe,AndAs ChrismHasSaid, TheyRevealByThei rResponsesThatTh eyCan'tRelateOrD on'tWantTo RelateToWhereIam. AsAResult, IHaveFocusedOnRe latingToThemAndW hatIsImportantTo TheirLives;ieBecomi ngALayCounselorF or8HoursAWeekAnd AWomensSupportGr oup FacilitatorAtMyForm erChurch( After2yearsTrain ing).ButIHaveAlw aysFeltEitherUnk nown OrUnaccepted.  AnyCommentsBothNega tiveAndPositiveA reWelcome  Diane     Diane Baugh <cdgbdronningen@ > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] What is this death? Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Friday, December 18, 2009, 12:04 PM  DearBeautifulDaniel le:ComputerProbl em;SpaceBarWon' tWork,ButPleaseR eadAnyway!  SinceAge3OBEIHaveWa ntedToDieBecause ThisLifeHasBeen " Foreign " ToMe, SoIunderstand WhatYouAreExperienc ing.IAmNotSuicid alEither, IJustWantToLiveL ifeCreatingOnlyG ood Karma,LiveThroughTh eKarmaICameIntoT hisLifeToFace, AndForgiveWhenNe cessaryBefore TheEndOfEachDay. IThinkKundalini, SinceItAmplifies ,HasDugDeepIntoM ySoul,WithThe ResultThatThePainOf LifeCircumstance sHasLeftScarsWit hinMe,EvenAsIAmS ureThatIHave Forgiven,AndThoseSc arsHelpToDisenta ngleMeFromThe " Dance " OfEngagema ntWithOthers SoThatICanSeeMoreCl earlyNotOnlyMyOw nMotivationsAndI ntentions, ButThoseOfOthers AsWell.TheEndResult OfAllOfThisIsTha tIAmWearyOfTheDa nce,AndAsISaidIn AnEarlier Post,WantToGetOffTh e " StageOfLife " AndLeaveThe " MaskOfPersona " BehindAndReturnT o GodFromWhenceWeAllC ame.ICanRemember TellingMyParents AsAVeryYoungChil dThat IWishedIHadNeverBee nBorn;(ThisWasAf terMyOBE) .IHaveNeverFeltU nderstoodOrAccep ted ByAnyone,BecauseByB eingTrueToMyExpe rienceOfLifeIHav eApparentlyAlien atedOther People,WhoCouldNotR elateToMe. ItHasBeenALonely Existance, ButItIsOfTheUtmo st ImportanceToMeToBeA uthenticAboutWho IAmAndWhatIAmAbo ut.  MyLoveToYouBeautifu lDanielle, IHopeYourExperie nceContinuesToDr awPeopleToYouAnd ThatYouDoNotHaveToE xperienceTheAlie nationI'veExperi enced.  Diane  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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