Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 To me, 'megalomania' seems a very strong word to use. It refers to the delusional fantasies of an egotist and an obsession with extravagance. Is that the strength of the word you wanted? My understanding of Kundalini and a spiritual path (granted this is a very limited understanding...), is that it is the exact opposite of this. It is turning away from the egotist in all of us. I dont personally even think of Kundalini in terms of " power " . Only in terms of gaining a better understanding of myself. At the end of the day, we don't live very long, any sort of power or grandiose feelings of superiority are very short lived and mean nothing when your dead. The problem with limits is exactly that, where do those limits stop. Maybe you show true greatness but living within those limits. Living to excess is whats put the world in the state its currently in, I dont see how doing it through spirituality makes it any better. Yoga is life in moderation. I would personally think that it is wrong to consider yourself superior to anyone or anything. We are all just different and at different points in our life. When you strip off the meat and flesh we are no different. So any pretence of superiority is merely the ego. Just my thoughts and feelings on the subject. Blessings to you! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 If God the Creator see us all as equal, why would you the created consider yourself superior to others who are of the created. If God said we are all equal, wouldn't it be wise to believe what He said as truth. One should always reach towards their highest potential, but do so without looking down on one who in this lifetime may have more limits put upon them than you in this go around. MHO. Linda , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Your honesty is appreciated Diegeutti. These are the potential gifts of the corrupt ego. There are entities that feed this desire into a person and Kundalini people are completely susceptible to this programming. Megalomania can be considered as an out of control ego expression. A way of feeling oneself as superior to others is a direct example of the ego controlling the individual and eventually as a doorway to being controlled by lower spiritual influence. This is as a conscious separation from God and creation for a short time as the megalomaniac will either short circuit or in other ways bring a downfall upon themselves as the ego continues to spin out of control. Worse it can become easily corrupted in ways that bring pain and anguish to others and self as the ego maniac relegates them to an unimportant status of a non being. So others become expendable at the whim of the megalomaniac via entities and corruption. Politics is full of these people. No I do not recommend this for anyone. Certainly not for the Kundalini awakening. This is against the self aggrandizement admonition I suggest within the safeties. Kundalini people are not superior to others. All people have the Kundalini and its connection to the divine. All people. The awakened person has the opportunity to work within the political field but must actively shield themselves from becoming a megalomaniac. Only in this constant balance will the full attributes of the Kundalini become realized. A great amount of hurtful Karma can be produced by megalomania. Hitler was not Kundalini awakened. He was possessed. But yes a Kundalini person can fall into self aggrandizement and from that position can they experience the falling of their soul. From the Kundalini can come an " intra Kundalini karmic balance. " Meaning the Kundalini itself will begin a series of balances within the individual that will bring clarity upon the individual and if this clarity is ignored then the many facets of a " fall " can be experienced including what happened to Hitler. Possession and other entity involvment is almost assured in these situations. Extreme regret is also assured as the person learns often to late the value of their mistakes. By value I mean the costs paid by others for the fall of the Kundalini soul. I encourage you to see the presence of the Holy of Holies in all people and creatures and creation. I invite you to realize that you the Kundalini awakening are not better or worse and that as others are so you are with some added attributes given by grace for you to promote grace FOR others not for yourself. Do not allow the ego to control your feelings and do not become attracted to the ego based desires of self aggrandizement. This is a real danger and it is as a Trojan to your heart and a virus of extreme painful attribute. - blessings Dieguetti - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear David: May I ask what prompted you to write this post? The way you begin: " This is considered to be a mental illness. " suggests that you wrote in response to a previous post, but since you make no reference to a previous post it isn't clear to me that my assumption is accurate. Please enlighten me! Love and Peace Diane , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 We are looking at two aspects of discordination, The lower centre's that create a triad with the higher of the three being overly stimulated. Meglomania could be induced by a impulse of energy being activated stimulating the reflected ego of the higher self. So that 1/both the adrenal glands (flight or fight) and 2/piturity (endorphins) are giving pleasure relieving pain from past disappointments. This is not beneficial to the student. As chrism has said, it is segrative. Being segrative, the centre of the heart is not being nourished nor is the pineal gland receiving much, if any, light stimulus. Through the unbalanced stimulii of the two personality centres that may be created, a meglomania attitude may become addictive if left unchecked. The true bliss experience will not be achieved. John , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 dieguetti_dpb, It sounds to me like you had a rough day. Sometimes it's just karma and we need to have some rough days to resolve our karmas. Other times I think that resistance to Shakti's agenda or lack of balance in our lives can lead to a rough day. Remember that everything is amplified with K, both the good and the bad. Hence the need for such care in monitoring and selecting what recordings we allow to play over and over in our thoughts and emotions. The safeties provide a wonderful framework for balance and mindfulness, and for specifically leading your awareness down pathways that lead to greater joy. I would suggest reviewing them and looking especially at the one related to " programming " , i.e., what you are feeding into your awareness via books, media, etc. and what thoughts and emotions this attentional food produces within you. To answer your question about how to approach megalomania from the perspective of Kundalini, I would say: don't go there. As in the outer world, so it is in the inner worlds: you get to choose which neighborhoods you wish to enter. Avoid the bad ones. The sentence where you state your " true desire " of living a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy would, I think, make a good set of bywords to remember (and act as an antidote) when you find yourself travelling some of the darker inner pathways. I'm not saying you should not participate in the outer world. We all must - hence the physical body. If you approach everything from the perspective of the safeties- with love, forgiveness, surrender, inner joy, and a sense of humility - then megalomania (and the beings that thrive upon it) will not be able to touch you. Love, David , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hi Diane. My name is Diego If you really want to call me Dave go for it. The reason the post started like that, as if it were a reply to another post, is because I was following up on the tittle of my post. Saying. Megalomania: This is considered etc, etc, etc. Anyways, I wanted to clarify that yes, I went berserk a little over a year ago with an awakening. I had a vision of Poseidon and following that too many things that I wasn't emotionally ready to handle surfaced in a very volatile manner. I felt so powerless about past traumas, pain, shame, guilt and what not. The only logical thing for me to do back then was self destruct. I figured if I do that, then I can start a new life. The last thing in my mind was surrendering it. So i did self-destruct. I was aware that would bring me to a state of letting go of the past and starting a new. Perhaps, a detached and compassionate evaluation of what was surfacing plus the attitude of surrender would have worked wonders. Instead, I proceeded with self-criticism, denial, vengefulness and rage. Anyway What I did not expect was that I was going to explode in to hundreds of voices all around and within me. So I did. Regardless, much healing, magical happenings, great interaction with the spirit world, and much transformation and genuine self-empowerment have taken place through it all. I was contacted by angels in my sleep and many many animals. In the walking states I have connected to many animals also which allows me to go back and undo things I did and to heal mind barriers to allow more healing at the given time. Despite the on and off episodes of megalomania it has been a period of great spiritual growth, transformation, and communion with the cosmos. I still hear some voices and when I played the song Megalomaniac by Incubus They totally got a kick out of it. (So did I) I did not want to allow that to affect my spiritual evolution so that is why I posted the message. I got scared last night cuz I actually realized how fun it felt. At the same time it was necessary for me to experience. To remember what things don't serve me. I did not want to deny it or repress it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Thank you all very much for your time and replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Hi Dave, my 20 cents on the matter.. is take full ownwership of your drives for power and authority... as the chakras are balanced these become expressive, yet also be willing to take the next step of surrendering them to Shakti.. you gotto have them and own them before you can surrender them... your ultimate security, peace and wellbeing is in the Divine, not in what the seperate self can do. Yet, if power and authority are competencies available to your body and surrendered will, then you can become a fine instrument for God love Bruce , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear Diego, We are more than equal in the eyes of God. We are one in the eyes of God. Various things cause us to feel separate from God and from others. Superiority is a sense of glory of 'self'; and it is this sense of 'self' which is the cause of the sense of separation. It creates the concept of something 'other'. Why be seduced by the limits of personal power and authority? The shine of things of the earth will be dim when you can see the glory of the Divine. Gifts are for giving, not for gaining. I hope this will be helpful for you in politics, Love, Sandra , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi wrote: > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dj. This is a good post ty and Mostly I agree with you. Yet at the same time I did not read into it before that Diegueti was interested in politics which is a completely different ball game than most people play, I have seen it stated here that Hitler was not k Awakened may be so though that does not mean he was not k activated, Diegeti, I Believe he was activated and i believe that he heart was, he got blamed for starting WWII though in reality history always remains in the hands of the Victors, It doesn't take much study and to read between the lines to see what might happened. There were no way hitters Germany could have won the war though gee what a fight he gave. Germany was in almost bankruptcy and in receiver ship due to WWI reparations that needed to be paid. The people of Germany were paying for it. The Polish Corridor that gave Germany access to the Baltic Sea was cut off to them, this is what I believed really started the war as Germany was forced to paying more for logistics further crippling the country. Though he is considered a brilliant politician he needed generals to run the war, I don't know how much he knew about the death camps and what went on there. Though I would not be surprised if a lot of the shenanigans were hidden from him Hitler was an occultist so its been said, it has also been said he is of Jewish bloodline, from the first world war the Zionists that is a sect of Judaism won the rights of land that is now known as Israel today. Of cause the Jews living in comfort of the countries that they resided in didn't wish to go there especially the ones who lived in Germany, Poland, Russia and other surrounding countries, I believe it was quite possible that the final solution was an agenda of the Zionist Sect to insert Jewish people into Isreal. I don't wish to go on to much, i probably said to much already, Though if one of our brothers wish to take to politics, Then yes by all means please do so, There is a lot of self sacrifice and a lot of determination needed and at great personal risk, Segregation is also needed. You need to be able to realise the differences between those who are slaves and wish to remain slaves to the system to provide for them and know them as your flock, Yet be able to see the ones who seek freedom and help them be on there way. I beleive more and more people are seeking freedom, so as this happens politics and public policies need to change and the private man needs to prevail The Agni yoga group is more active with political issues I believe Master M and the Rothriche Foundation covers this further and is more the energy they use to deal with, this may well be the ashram in which you should seek. The ashram I rather work is yet to materialize, it is about bringing harmony it still has more of an astral dimension; Om Shanti Jaganatha , " djgottlieb " <dgottlieb wrote: > > > > > dieguetti_dpb, > > It sounds to me like you had a rough day. Sometimes it's just karma and we need to have some rough days to resolve our karmas. Other times I think that resistance to Shakti's agenda or lack of balance in our lives can lead to a rough day. > > Remember that everything is amplified with K, both the good and the bad. Hence the need for such care in monitoring and selecting what recordings we allow to play over and over in our thoughts and emotions. The safeties provide a wonderful framework for balance and mindfulness, and for specifically leading your awareness down pathways that lead to greater joy. I would suggest reviewing them and looking especially at the one related to " programming " , i.e., what you are feeding into your awareness via books, media, etc. and what thoughts and emotions this attentional food produces within you. > > To answer your question about how to approach megalomania from the perspective of Kundalini, I would say: don't go there. As in the outer world, so it is in the inner worlds: you get to choose which neighborhoods you wish to enter. Avoid the bad ones. > > The sentence where you state your " true desire " of living a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy would, I think, make a good set of bywords to remember (and act as an antidote) when you find yourself travelling some of the darker inner pathways. > > I'm not saying you should not participate in the outer world. We all must - hence the physical body. If you approach everything from the perspective of the safeties- with love, forgiveness, surrender, inner joy, and a sense of humility - then megalomania (and the beings that thrive upon it) will not be able to touch you. > > Love, > > David > > > , " dieguetti_dpb " <diegopi@> wrote: > > > > This is considered to be a mental illness. To me this is something natural. Not to say that it is beneficial for truth. However, I would appreciate input about megalomania. Specially from if he reads this. How do I approach this in regards with Kundalini evolution? Because one can be a megalomaniac still after the awakening...I mean look at Hitler. But if god is great, and so are we...what are my limits? From what point do I actually know if it is deluded? We are all equal in the eyes of God. But is it wrong to consider yourself superior to somebody who is less realized about who he truly is? My true desire is to be K active and live a life of joy, abundance, and ecstasy and better my life and that of the planet by playing my part. I would lie if I say I am not seduced by personal power and authority. This is something I intend on pursuing in a healthy manner because I don't to re-live what I have been experiencing after a K day gone horribly wrong. I am very interested in politics. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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