Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear All: What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsy bitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsy bitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. Love and thank you. -Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear Danielle, Bodhi can mean different things to different people but the truest meaning can be 'hinted to' as enlightenment. Enlightenment is 'being in the know' or 'getting to know' the highest truth, both being almost similar to each other except that in the latter it is a process whereas in the former the process is complete (A State). There are different degrees of 'Enlightenment' but for the sake of clarity, I will refer to the ultimate degree of Enlightenment here. Getting to know the true Self (Atma)and identifying with it is Enlightenment. Enlightenment is not Anatma (the false self); that which appears to be the true Self but is not (Illusion)! Anatma is that which the majority of Mankind identifies themselves with - the physical body, the subtle bodies, the mind, intellect, the ego and the sense organs. Atma is the " I " in you, me, everyone... It is one with the 'Paramatman' - Universal Absolute, Shiva, God, Divinity... Consciously knowing Oneself to be one with Paramatman is the highest degree of enlightenment i.e. becoming a Buddha 'Enlightened One', the Awakened One'. The different yogas: Jnana, Bhakti, Karma, Hatha, Kundalini...are like different roads leading to one destination and prepare the Individual for the ultimate experience. The Human birth is the platform from which Divinity is realised, that is why 'entities' are attracted like " moths to a light/fire " to us humans, and even Demi-gods in charge of Galactic functions as high as 'Ruling Universes' desire to take birth as humans inorder to complete 'the circle'; Angels (Mighty beings)on 'Standby' to administer, I can continue forever... So Divine Danielle and All, the path you are travelling is bestowed on you already by virtue of your birth as a " humane' being " . You have already through millions of births arrived at this enviable pedestral, likened to moving from kindergarten to a tertiary institution. Such is the 'sadness' experienced by higher beings when a human is demoted to a lesser lifeform because of very serious effects resulting from serious causes during one's previous life. So be humane - do not kill, hate not, don't discriminate, be equalminded, love, don't judge because everyone is judged by immutable Universal laws already; And then when kundalini awakens, you shall experience the highest degree of enlightenment. This is your path...Follow it! Love from your 'other' Self BuchiAtma. , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon wrote: > > Dear All: > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsy bitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsy bitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > Love and thank you. > -Danielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Dear Buchiatma, You are genius, well conversant in Indian philosophy, You are a blessing to KAS-1 community.....................shrikant ________________________________ buchiatma <cleancynthia2001 Wed, 30 December, 2009 6:11:01 AM Re: What is Bodhi? Dear Danielle, Bodhi can mean different things to different people but the truest meaning can be 'hinted to' as enlightenment. Enlightenment is 'being in the know' or 'getting to know' the highest truth, both being almost similar to each other except that in the latter it is a process whereas in the former the process is complete (A State). There are different degrees of 'Enlightenment' but for the sake of clarity, I will refer to the ultimate degree of Enlightenment here. Getting to know the true Self (Atma)and identifying with it is Enlightenment. Enlightenment is not Anatma (the false self); that which appears to be the true Self but is not (Illusion)! Anatma is that which the majority of Mankind identifies themselves with - the physical body, the subtle bodies, the mind, intellect, the ego and the sense organs. Atma is the " I " in you, me, everyone... It is one with the 'Paramatman' - Universal Absolute, Shiva, God, Divinity... Consciously knowing Oneself to be one with Paramatman is the highest degree of enlightenment i.e. becoming a Buddha 'Enlightened One', the Awakened One'. The different yogas: Jnana, Bhakti, Karma, Hatha, Kundalini... are like different roads leading to one destination and prepare the Individual for the ultimate experience. The Human birth is the platform from which Divinity is realised, that is why 'entities' are attracted like " moths to a light/fire " to us humans, and even Demi-gods in charge of Galactic functions as high as 'Ruling Universes' desire to take birth as humans inorder to complete 'the circle'; Angels (Mighty beings)on 'Standby' to administer, I can continue forever... So Divine Danielle and All, the path you are travelling is bestowed on you already by virtue of your birth as a " humane' being " . You have already through millions of births arrived at this enviable pedestral, likened to moving from kindergarten to a tertiary institution. Such is the 'sadness' experienced by higher beings when a human is demoted to a lesser lifeform because of very serious effects resulting from serious causes during one's previous life. So be humane - do not kill, hate not, don't discriminate, be equalminded, love, don't judge because everyone is judged by immutable Universal laws already; And then when kundalini awakens, you shall experience the highest degree of enlightenment. This is your path...Follow it! Love from your 'other' Self BuchiAtma. Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All: > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsybitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsybitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > Love and thank you. > -Danielle > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Danielle, Bodhi is also the name of the tree under which Buddha sat and fasted, and brought back teachings to liberate humankind. But your fingers knew this, or maybe Iktomi the spider sang it to you through the scrying glass. " Know need to know, know need to no, no need to know. " Peace, Shaz , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon wrote: > > Dear All: > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsy bitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsy bitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > Love and thank you. > -Danielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 DICTIONARY MEANING OF Bodhi is 1) Perfect Wisdom or Enlightenment.. 2.The enlightened intellect of a Buddha. 3.The sacred fig tree. 4.A cock. 5.An epithet of Buddha. Bodhisatva is a Buddhist saint, one who is on the way to the attainment of perfect knowledge and has only certain births to undergo before attaining to the state of Supreme Buddha ________________________________ shaktiaz <shaktiaz Wed, 30 December, 2009 11:09:58 AM Re: What is Bodhi? Danielle, Bodhi is also the name of the tree under which Buddha sat and fasted, and brought back teachings to liberate humankind. But your fingers knew this, or maybe Iktomi the spider sang it to you through the scrying glass. " Know need to know, know need to no, no need to know. " Peace, Shaz Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All: > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsy bitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsy bitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > Love and thank you. > -Danielle > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Shrikant, what is meant by number 4?I liked everyone's post on this and the wayyou grabbed the bull by the horns with the dictionary meanings. loveZinnia shrikantphule Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:41:44 +0530 Re: Re: What is Bodhi? DICTIONARY MEANING OF Bodhi is 1) Perfect Wisdom or Enlightenment.. 2.The enlightened intellect of a Buddha. 3.The sacred fig tree. 4.A cock. 5.An epithet of Buddha. Bodhisatva is a Buddhist saint, one who is on the way to the attainment of perfect knowledge and has only certain births to undergo before attaining to the state of Supreme Buddha ________________________________ shaktiaz <shaktiaz Wed, 30 December, 2009 11:09:58 AM Re: What is Bodhi? Danielle, Bodhi is also the name of the tree under which Buddha sat and fasted, and brought back teachings to liberate humankind. But your fingers knew this, or maybe Iktomi the spider sang it to you through the scrying glass. " Know need to know, know need to no, no need to know. " Peace, Shaz Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All: > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsy bitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsy bitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > Love and thank you. > -Danielle > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Divine Shrikant, It takes a blessed One to recognise another. God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient and dwelleth equally in all, but in India existed a lot of individuals that strove for perfection of the Self,and pleased " I " tremendously. Thus " I " chose to incarnate there severally in the bodies of numerous 'Avatars' and mighty sages with awakened kundalinis from birth, though anyone in any part of the world who strives thus, pleases " I " as well. LOL Blessings BuchiAtma , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Buchiatma, > > You are genius, well conversant in Indian philosophy, You are a blessing to KAS-1 community.....................shrikant > > > > > ________________________________ > buchiatma <cleancynthia2001 > > Wed, 30 December, 2009 6:11:01 AM > Re: What is Bodhi? > > > Dear Danielle, > > Bodhi can mean different things to different people but the truest meaning can be 'hinted to' as enlightenment. > > Enlightenment is 'being in the know' or 'getting to know' the highest truth, both being almost similar to each other except that in the latter it is a process whereas in the former the process is complete (A State). > > There are different degrees of 'Enlightenment' but for the sake of clarity, I will refer to the ultimate degree of Enlightenment here. > > Getting to know the true Self (Atma)and identifying with it is Enlightenment. > > Enlightenment is not Anatma (the false self); that which appears to be the true Self but is not (Illusion)! > > Anatma is that which the majority of Mankind identifies themselves with - the physical body, the subtle bodies, the mind, intellect, the ego and the sense organs. > > Atma is the " I " in you, me, everyone... It is one with the 'Paramatman' - Universal Absolute, Shiva, God, Divinity... > > Consciously knowing Oneself to be one with Paramatman is the highest degree of enlightenment i.e. becoming a Buddha 'Enlightened One', the Awakened One'. > > The different yogas: Jnana, Bhakti, Karma, Hatha, Kundalini... are like different roads leading to one destination and prepare the Individual for the ultimate experience. > > The Human birth is the platform from which Divinity is realised, that is why 'entities' are attracted like " moths to a light/fire " to us humans, and even Demi-gods in charge of Galactic functions as high as 'Ruling Universes' desire to take birth as humans inorder to complete 'the circle'; Angels (Mighty beings)on 'Standby' to administer, I can continue forever... > > So Divine Danielle and All, the path you are travelling is bestowed on you already by virtue of your birth as a " humane' being " . You have already through millions of births arrived at this enviable pedestral, likened to moving from kindergarten to a tertiary institution. > > Such is the 'sadness' experienced by higher beings when a human is demoted to a lesser lifeform because of very serious effects resulting from serious causes during one's previous life. > > So be humane - do not kill, hate not, don't discriminate, be equalminded, love, don't judge because everyone is judged by immutable Universal laws already; And then when kundalini awakens, you shall experience the highest degree of enlightenment. > > This is your path...Follow it! > > Love from your 'other' Self > > BuchiAtma. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear All: > > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsybitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsybitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > > > Love and thank you. > > -Danielle > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Love reading your posts!!! Much love to you! Debs (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Buchiatma, I always read your posts carefully.Your words are prophetic.I am happy you are aware and know what true enlightenment is.I appreciate your judgment regarding recognition.We all are safe in hands of our Great teacher who will lead us to ATMAN...........shrikant ________________________________ buchiatma <cleancynthia2001 Wed, 30 December, 2009 10:54:55 PM Re: What is Bodhi? Divine Shrikant, It takes a blessed One to recognise another. God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient and dwelleth equally in all, but in India existed a lot of individuals that strove for perfection of the Self,and pleased " I " tremendously. Thus " I " chose to incarnate there severally in the bodies of numerous 'Avatars' and mighty sages with awakened kundalinis from birth, though anyone in any part of the world who strives thus, pleases " I " as well. LOL Blessings BuchiAtma Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Buchiatma, > > You are genius, well conversant in Indian philosophy, You are a blessing to KAS-1 community... ......... ......... shrikant > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > buchiatma <cleancynthia2001@ ...> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Wed, 30 December, 2009 6:11:01 AM > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: What is Bodhi? > > > Dear Danielle, > > Bodhi can mean different things to different people but the truest meaning can be 'hinted to' as enlightenment. > > Enlightenment is 'being in the know' or 'getting to know' the highest truth, both being almost similar to each other except that in the latter it is a process whereas in the former the process is complete (A State). > > There are different degrees of 'Enlightenment' but for the sake of clarity, I will refer to the ultimate degree of Enlightenment here. > > Getting to know the true Self (Atma)and identifying with it is Enlightenment. > > Enlightenment is not Anatma (the false self); that which appears to be the true Self but is not (Illusion)! > > Anatma is that which the majority of Mankind identifies themselves with - the physical body, the subtle bodies, the mind, intellect, the ego and the sense organs. > > Atma is the " I " in you, me, everyone... It is one with the 'Paramatman' - Universal Absolute, Shiva, God, Divinity... > > Consciously knowing Oneself to be one with Paramatman is the highest degree of enlightenment i.e. becoming a Buddha 'Enlightened One', the Awakened One'. > > The different yogas: Jnana, Bhakti, Karma, Hatha, Kundalini... are like different roads leading to one destination and prepare the Individual for the ultimate experience. > > The Human birth is the platform from which Divinity is realised, that is why 'entities' are attracted like " moths to a light/fire " to us humans, and even Demi-gods in charge of Galactic functions as high as 'Ruling Universes' desire to take birth as humans inorder to complete 'the circle'; Angels (Mighty beings)on 'Standby' to administer, I can continue forever... > > So Divine Danielle and All, the path you are travelling is bestowed on you already by virtue of your birth as a " humane' being " . You have already through millions of births arrived at this enviable pedestral, likened to moving from kindergarten to a tertiary institution. > > Such is the 'sadness' experienced by higher beings when a human is demoted to a lesser lifeform because of very serious effects resulting from serious causes during one's previous life. > > So be humane - do not kill, hate not, don't discriminate, be equalminded, love, don't judge because everyone is judged by immutable Universal laws already; And then when kundalini awakens, you shall experience the highest degree of enlightenment. > > This is your path...Follow it! > > Love from your 'other' Self > > BuchiAtma. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " iamwaitingmoon " <iamwaitingmoon@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear All: > > What is Bodhi. I wrote it on the steamed up mirror along side an itsybitsy spider doing pushups with its 16 legs. I used the word as the base of the tree, drew the trunk around the " o " and spanned its branches wide. It's foliage thick, cascaded until it could hold no longer, and dripped down the mirror. I stared into the " o " and questioned the " i " . What is enlightenment exactly, or not exactly. Perhaps you can share just an itsybitsy spider of an " explaination " . I feel like I don't even have an understanding really of this path I'm traveling. > > > > Love and thank you. > > -Danielle > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Danielle, What is bodhi? What is enlightenment? A fun question. A koan to ponder. Or to " not-ponder. " Put it out as a question. Then forget about it and let answers come trickling in from beyond. A few answers: " Enlightenment is the complete awareness of life without mental modification. " " Enlightenment is the experience of ecstasy beyond anything you can possibly imagine. " " Damned if I know! " (That's me.) All just words. Not the same as the being of it. Still, you recognize it when you see it. (Re+cognize: to know again.) You can feel it when you're in the presence of it. Some just keep their mouths shut and smile mysteriously, radiating. Others elaborate and effuse about it with many words, also radiating. Some come out of absorption enough to recognize a lover and a beloved, and then they write love songs to the beloved. Some teach, or rather " transmit " . Hence the term " transmission of the Dharma " - it has nothing to do with talking. The part of us that does not need words or concepts to understand can recognize when we are in the presence of enlightenment or one of the many energy streams emanating from it. Lose ourselves in those enlightening streams often enough and long enough and we too can become emanations of enlightenment, radiating. As it pours through us it transforms us. Love, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Just came across this browsing around Amazon.com (one of my weaknesses...). It is an excerpt from the book " Wanting Enlightenment is a Big Mistake " by a Seung Sahn. I thought others here might enjoy it, in light of our recent discussions about mind, understanding, etc. The link takes you into Amazon's preview feature - scroll past the table of contents to the first story, in which a student asks the Master, " What is enlightenment? " http://www.amazon.com/Wanting-Enlightenment-Big-Mistake-Teachings/dp/159\ 0303407/ref=cm_syf_dtl_pop_4_rlrsrs0#reader_1590303407 <http://www.amazon.com/Wanting-Enlightenment-Big-Mistake-Teachings/dp/15\ 90303407/ref=cm_syf_dtl_pop_4_rlrsrs0#reader_1590303407> Love, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Wow, thank you all...it's all truly magnificent what you have shared. This David was like and aah yes- the beloved. My mind understands again what my heart has known all along. And Shaz...the Tree. All of your sharing made the puzzle pieces click together for me. " Some come out of absorption enough to recognize a lover and a beloved, and then they write love songs to the beloved. Love, David " Namaste. ~Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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