Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Not sure if this got through. Dear all Thankyou soooo much for your warm welcome and introduction. I do feel blessed to have found this site. The funny thing is a lot of the advice that has been given here I have heard all before at different points along my journey. The problem is I guess I didn't always trust it because it always came with some other packaging and I guess no-one ever confirmed for me what I was experiencing. But just to know that there are a group of people on here who are or have experienced the same thing I guess makes me feel that I am not so alone in all this and gives me more trust. My mind often wanders to what path I am meant to be on and I guess that is the problem with drilling too many wells for oil in too many different places. I guess of late I have been on a kind of pathless path almost not wanting to hear about spiritual things because I have heard it all before and ultimately the sensations seem to be the most real thing that I am experiencing a lot of the time. I feel perhaps that I might have got a bit caught up in my history but I guess there is a part of me that still wants to make sense of it. To know exactly what is happening haha. Almost like I want God to come down and give me an account of my life and an explanation. As a result I have felt angry at times at all the things that have got me into this situation. That is not to say that through all this pain there are a lof wonderful things that have happened as well. The highs have been high and the lows low I guess. But I just want to thankyou for all your kind words and messages of support.. Over the last few days since I joined up I have felt more hope and strength to be able to deal with this knowing that there are others out there dealing with the same thing and people who know what I am going through and have been through to ask for support. So thankyou. Perhaps it is no accident that I happened upon it just before the New Year. I find actually the most grounding thing for me is doing things in the physical and not thinking too much about the spiritual. Whenever I meditate, ascend or try reiki or reconnection, these things often seem to stir up the symptoms rather than relieve them. Everything seems to help and not help at the same time haha. I am confused sometimes as to which symtoms come from kundalini and which come from reiki or other things that I have done or whether it is all part of the same. Anyway here is a poem that I wrote ironically before I started experiencing a lot of all this but perhaps it has even more relevance today. The Night Of The Furies By James Crompton November '98 Hear the Furies knocking, Screaming, yelling, clanging. They give me no respite, They keep me up all night. They make an awful din, They want to be let in, But that would be a sin, I'll not let those demons in. They give me no respite, Those Furies in the night, I swear and shout and curse and pray, Please make these Furies go away! And still they make their din, But I'll not let them in! Instead I'll call the guard! They'll make these Furies go! These Furies in the night, That give me no respite. And soon the guard arrives And to the guard I say, " Please make these Furies go away! They're driving me insane! " To me the guard replies, " We've heard your awful cries! But all your grounds we've searched around, There are no Furies to be found! " And still I swear and curse and pray, " Please make these Furies go away! " " Why can you not hear them? Those Furies and their din! They give me no respite! Please make them go away! I cannot sleep at night! Please make them GO!!! " But still the guards insist, They've searched my grounds around, There are no Furies to be found, And if I do persist To make this awful din, They'll cuff me round the wrists, And in a cell they'll lock me in. Where is the Justice in this town? Who'll help me beat these Furies down, These demons that are constantly With awful cries haranguing me? Louder still and louder! These Furies will not rest! And all those fickle guards can do With vicious threats harangue me too. I'll have to ring my neighbour, My neighbour and my friend. He'll help me beat these Furies, And put them to their end. My neighbour he replies, " I have not heard their cries, But I will help you if you wish To make the noise subside. " " Oh help me, help me please! They give me no respite, These Furies keep me up all night, They never give me peace! " " Then help I will my friend To put your Furies to an end, But you must promise me That you will listen openly. " " I'll do anything you say, To make these Furies go away. They drive me up the wall, These Furies banging on my door. " " Then here's my medicine To put these Furies to an end, Listen carefully And of these Furies you'll be free: " " The Furies are within That make this awful din. That's why they scream and shout. They want to be let out. All you have to do Is open your front door, You have locked them in. That's why they make their din. In order to restore The peace of mind you value, Open your front door That's all I have to tell you. " So down the stairs I went ere long To prove my gentle neighbour wrong, Despite the fear that haunted me, I had to set my mind at ease. With trembling limbs and quaking knees, I found my way to my front door, And sure enough there I saw, Furies flying round galore. They looked at me with fiery eyes, They yelled and screamed and screeched and cried, They beat and banged against the door, Then screamed and screeched and yelled some more. With noses big, and big sharp claws, And gnashing teeth, and bloody jaws, With horns and wings and warty faces, And did I mention big sharp claws. These Furies I can't well describe Because I was so terrified. But with my neighbour's gentle words, Courageously I took my course, Through gnashing teeth and big sharp claws I fought my way to my front door. I took the key from out my pocket, And soon I managed to unlock it, And in a flurry out they went, These Furies that had been hell-bent On making my life a misery. And so at last I was set free My neighbour he had rescued me, But what did follow soon you'll see Was a magic mystery. For after being exorcised, Those Furies metamorphasised They were not Furies any more That took their leave from my front door. But in a flurry of feathered wings A heavenly choir of seraphims From my house took flight Into the early morning light. And as they flew in merry throng, The air was filled with their sweet song: " These Furies that you hear Are never actually there Instead what you espy Are angels in disguise. " And thus I end my story Of how I lost my fury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dear James, Yes it did get through and I had read it. Often posts are not replied to and this is not a reflection at all of the content ( or so I think lol) It was great to read you r feedback of the feedback you had received and to know that being here is making a difference. I wish I had replied as this struck me at the time and I was glad for you.. You may find as time goes by that sometimes it is difficult to post of ones self here , or sometimes one can write about ones self  but also find it impossible to post a reply to others and can but read with still fingers on the keyboard. Well so I have found and I believe it is felt likewise by others. So I am glad you reposted and allowed me the opportunity to say how glad i am that being here has helped you and I hope that will continue to be the case. Your poem is wow and thanks for sharing that too. Just to mention that I also did reiki one and two and like you came to leave it behind. I had some difficulty with it also and I eventually learned to let it go, Reiki has no power over me and any energy or entities that may have attached have no power over me, I feel no fear now  and I know that it is K who graces me with experiences spiritual and physical. Blessings James. and if you have other poems please do post them if this feels ok with you. Love Julia ________________________________ james_crompton <james_crompton Sun, January 3, 2010 10:08:38 PM The Night of the Furies  Not sure if this got through. Dear all Thankyou soooo much for your warm welcome and introduction.  Anyway here is a poem that I wrote ironically before I started experiencing a lot of all this but perhaps it has even more relevance today. The Night Of The Furies By James Crompton November '98 Hear the Furies knocking, Screaming, yelling, clanging. They give me no respite, They keep me up all night. They make an awful din, They want to be let in, But that would be a sin, I'll not let those demons in. They give me no respite, Those Furies in the night, I swear and shout and curse and pray, Please make these Furies go away! And still they make their din, But I'll not let them in! Instead I'll call the guard! They'll make these Furies go! These Furies in the night, That give me no respite. And soon the guard arrives And to the guard I say, " Please make these Furies go away! They're driving me insane! " To me the guard replies, " We've heard your awful cries! But all your grounds we've searched around, There are no Furies to be found! " And still I swear and curse and pray, " Please make these Furies go away! " " Why can you not hear them? Those Furies and their din! They give me no respite! Please make them go away! I cannot sleep at night! Please make them GO!!! " But still the guards insist, They've searched my grounds around, There are no Furies to be found, And if I do persist To make this awful din, They'll cuff me round the wrists, And in a cell they'll lock me in. Where is the Justice in this town? Who'll help me beat these Furies down, These demons that are constantly With awful cries haranguing me? Louder still and louder! These Furies will not rest! And all those fickle guards can do With vicious threats harangue me too. I'll have to ring my neighbour, My neighbour and my friend. He'll help me beat these Furies, And put them to their end. My neighbour he replies, " I have not heard their cries, But I will help you if you wish To make the noise subside. " " Oh help me, help me please! They give me no respite, These Furies keep me up all night, They never give me peace! " " Then help I will my friend To put your Furies to an end, But you must promise me That you will listen openly. " " I'll do anything you say, To make these Furies go away. They drive me up the wall, These Furies banging on my door. " " Then here's my medicine To put these Furies to an end, Listen carefully And of these Furies you'll be free: " " The Furies are within That make this awful din. That's why they scream and shout. They want to be let out. All you have to do Is open your front door, You have locked them in. That's why they make their din. In order to restore The peace of mind you value, Open your front door That's all I have to tell you. " So down the stairs I went ere long To prove my gentle neighbour wrong, Despite the fear that haunted me, I had to set my mind at ease. With trembling limbs and quaking knees, I found my way to my front door, And sure enough there I saw, Furies flying round galore. They looked at me with fiery eyes, They yelled and screamed and screeched and cried, They beat and banged against the door, Then screamed and screeched and yelled some more. With noses big, and big sharp claws, And gnashing teeth, and bloody jaws, With horns and wings and warty faces, And did I mention big sharp claws. These Furies I can't well describe Because I was so terrified. But with my neighbour's gentle words, Courageously I took my course, Through gnashing teeth and big sharp claws I fought my way to my front door.. I took the key from out my pocket, And soon I managed to unlock it, And in a flurry out they went, These Furies that had been hell-bent On making my life a misery. And so at last I was set free My neighbour he had rescued me, But what did follow soon you'll see Was a magic mystery. For after being exorcised, Those Furies metamorphasised They were not Furies any more That took their leave from my front door. But in a flurry of feathered wings A heavenly choir of seraphims From my house took flight Into the early morning light. And as they flew in merry throng, The air was filled with their sweet song: " These Furies that you hear Are never actually there Instead what you espy Are angels in disguise. " And thus I end my story Of how I lost my fury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hello James, I can't remember if I sent you a welcome post, I don't think I did, but I am glad you made it here to our K community. I am one who has been mostly silence lately. I don't know why, but I try to post, but nothing comes. I have read all yours and everyone's post. I did enjoy reading your poem (twice) and poems/posts from others, too. I welcome all the new members of late. I am glad you are here amongst us recieving the help needed for balance. Blessings, Linda , " james_crompton " <james_crompton wrote: > > Not sure if this got through. > > Dear all > Thankyou soooo much for your warm welcome and introduction. I do feel blessed to have found this site. The funny thing is a lot of the advice that has been given here I have heard all before at different points along my journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 --- On Sun, 1/3/10, james_crompton <james_crompton wrote: james_crompton <james_crompton The Night of the Furies Sunday, January 3, 2010, 2:08 PM  Not sure if this got through. Dear James: Welcome to a very loving supportive family. While not all of us have had the same struggles you have had, we do understand your confusion and dismay and want to extend the hand of friendship and support as you endeavor to find your way to the place of acceptance  and cooperation with the kundalini awakening process.  Chrism is the best of Teachers, and if you follow the Safeties as has been suggested, you will be on a safe path. As Julia stated, not every post is responded to, but I for one read all the posts as most do, and respond to many. Like Linda, I have recently gone through a period where I had difficulty expressing myself, and though I wanted to respond to certain posts, when I attempted to do so I had no words.  So don't misunderstand if at times you don't receive response; we are all going through individual struggles which affect our ability to relate to specific post contents.  Peace and Love.   Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks. I really appreciate people taking the time to read. And thankyou for acknowledging me. I have many questions. I guess they will come out over time. I started the Tibetan rites yesterday - funnily enough I had learnt them on the Ishaya campus all those many years ago. And the pranayamas, and the locks in particular. A man told me to put a tongue to the roof of my mouth and clasp my hands together and also to rub my chest with my fist in a circular motion once.. But I guess at the time I never really new the enormity of what I had got myself into and never realised the extent to which it would last. At the time he was trying to get me to take up Kriya Yoga and I was a bit resistant to adopting new teachings after all I had been through. I always wanted to regain that simplicity that I had started with, but by then everything had already got too complicated. Julia thankyou for telling me of your experience with Reiki. Since I did it to the degree that I did, I am not sure that the enrgy has stopped coming through me. Everytime I touched someone I would feel this energy coming through my hands and I felt it very disconcerting. Likewise everytime I touch myself with my hands. I have prayed for the attunements to be removed but it always just seems to start up again. Sometimes I dont even know anymore if it is Reiki or something else. And since now I have recently done the Reconnection Healing that is another energy that comes through also. I actually found the Reconnection seminar kind of settled my mind a bit after all the myths that I seemed to have picked up about Reiki. Whatever the case after Reiki things have never been the same. Im glad to hear that the entities have stopped bothing you. I have come a bit more accustomed to them now I guess and am not so afraid of them, but they still bother me. It seems they are most prevalents just before I go to sleep and when I wake up in the morning. Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. I realize that I must sound like a crazy person the way that I am talking, but honestly that is the best way that I can describe it. I pray to close channels down and close them down permanently but inevitably they seem to open up again and the entities come back. Someone once told me that I might be a storehouse for them. NIce!!! I dont really know what to think about them. Can anyone help on this front? I am really lost about it. I basically just try and get on with my life in spite of all this but it is always there nagging at me. Would appreciate any answers that you could give me on this front. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi James, Please ask any questions that you have and when answers come it is a blessing indeed, when they don't the acceptance of that cfan be a blessing too, LOL! When you say re reiki, "  Since I did it to the degree that I did " what do you mean? I thought they were only 3 degrees to reiki, one and two were about giving reiki near and distance healing and the next degree did not add anything except the " ability " to initiate others?  Are you saying that the energy that is channeled through the body changes depending on how many levels you do?  Are you saying that entities " attach " to an individual because of the number of reiki degrees  one does? ( I hope you don't mind the questions but I find them a useful way of clarification for myself) Do you know that kundalini has been activated or awakened in you? If you know this to be true you can surrender your fears of other entities. The energy of Kundalini is very very tactile, I mean so tactile it is amazing. i can remember fearing that the Kundalini process/enegry was not from God and holy spirit and that it was the energy of some other source. What i am trying to say in a very wordy blabblering way is that Kundalini is Kundalini and entity incursion is entity incursion and sometimes fear can merge the experiences and we can be lost. Trust your Kundalini, she knows what is best for you. commit to listening and pray.. says that it is very important that we pray to God (whatever that means for you) and if this is difficult that we cultivate a practice. wrote a prayer some time back and I have often said the first three lines of it with absolute sincerity when I have been concerned about entity presence. " I surrender to love, I surrender to truth, I surrender to God " Once I have said this I can surrender knowing that I am not inviting anything else but that into my being, should anything else be here it is not invited and I am not surrendering to any process that the entity might wisdh to pursue! I am safe and I do not fear or project or concern myself with what entities wish to do. I am not interested in them and focus on love and surrender to God through the Holy spirit and Kundalini working on and within me. During the day I try to practice the safieties and love and service is very important. If I am not living it then my night time experiences may reflect that fact. I will go away from her and copy the whole prayer that chrism gave as you may like it as much as I do. Chrism may be able to say more about entities, I know he wrote about " the crucible of reversal " which was a way to rid oneself of entities. I am going to copy and paste the prayer now. blessings and love to you, Julia. Here it is.... I surrender to love I surrender to truth I surrender to God In my thoughts and actions with myself and towards others I give my love and considerations of love towards their wellbeing and my wellbeing. And towards the highest potentials that we can achieve within the choices we make for the expression of our development towards love, and loving, and being loved. In the flow of my life I choose to give health and harmony as an expression of love. I choose to have health and reflect health and happiness to those with whom I interact. I take full responsibility for my actions and my thoughts, and my emotional intentions within the interactions that are expressed by me towards others and towards myself and towards God. I choose to join with Divinity and offer love and accept love in the journey towards my conscious understanding of the wholeness that I am. Prayer from Chrism  ________________________________ James Crompton <james_crompton Mon, January 4, 2010 10:54:17 AM Re: The Night of the Furies  Thanks. I really appreciate people taking the time to read. And thankyou for acknowledging me. I have many questions. I guess they will come out over time. I started the Tibetan rites yesterday - funnily enough I had learnt them on the Ishaya campus all those many years ago. And the pranayamas, and the locks in particular. A man told me to put a tongue to the roof of my mouth and clasp my hands together and also to rub my chest with my fist in a circular motion once.. But I guess at the time I never really new the enormity of what I had got myself into and never realised the extent to which it would last. At the time he was trying to get me to take up Kriya Yoga and I was a bit resistant to adopting new teachings after all I had been through. I always wanted to regain that simplicity that I had started with, but by then everything had already got too complicated. Julia thankyou for telling me of your experience with Reiki. Since I did it to the degree that I did, I am not sure that the enrgy has stopped coming through me. Everytime I touched someone I would feel this energy coming through my hands and I felt it very disconcerting. Likewise everytime I touch myself with my hands. I have prayed for the attunements to be removed but it always just seems to start up again. Sometimes I dont even know anymore if it is Reiki or something else. And since now I have recently done the Reconnection Healing that is another energy that comes through also. I actually found the Reconnection seminar kind of settled my mind a bit after all the myths that I seemed to have picked up about Reiki. Whatever the case after Reiki things have never been the same. Im glad to hear that the entities have stopped bothing you. I have come a bit more accustomed to them now I guess and am not so afraid of them, but they still bother me. It seems they are most prevalents just before I go to sleep and when I wake up in the morning. Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. I realize that I must sound like a crazy person the way that I am talking, but honestly that is the best way that I can describe it. I pray to close channels down and close them down permanently but inevitably they seem to open up again and the entities come back. Someone once told me that I might be a storehouse for them. NIce!!! I dont really know what to think about them. Can anyone help on this front? I am really lost about it. I basically just try and get on with my life in spite of all this but it is always there nagging at me. Would appreciate any answers that you could give me on this front. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 thnaks julia for reminding that prayer --- El lun 4-ene-10, Julia Ahern <jajahern escribió: De: Julia Ahern <jajahern Asunto: Re: The Night of the Furies A: Fecha: lunes, 4 enero, 2010, 5:57 am  Hi James, Please ask any questions that you have and when answers come it is a blessing indeed, when they don't the acceptance of that cfan be a blessing too, LOL! When you say re reiki, "  Since I did it to the degree that I did " what do you mean? I thought they were only 3 degrees to reiki, one and two were about giving reiki near and distance healing and the next degree did not add anything except the " ability " to initiate others?  Are you saying that the energy that is channeled through the body changes depending on how many levels you do?  Are you saying that entities " attach " to an individual because of the number of reiki degrees  one does? ( I hope you don't mind the questions but I find them a useful way of clarification for myself) Do you know that kundalini has been activated or awakened in you? If you know this to be true you can surrender your fears of other entities. The energy of Kundalini is very very tactile, I mean so tactile it is amazing. i can remember fearing that the Kundalini process/enegry was not from God and holy spirit and that it was the energy of some other source. What i am trying to say in a very wordy blabblering way is that Kundalini is Kundalini and entity incursion is entity incursion and sometimes fear can merge the experiences and we can be lost. Trust your Kundalini, she knows what is best for you. commit to listening and pray.. says that it is very important that we pray to God (whatever that means for you) and if this is difficult that we cultivate a practice. wrote a prayer some time back and I have often said the first three lines of it with absolute sincerity when I have been concerned about entity presence. " I surrender to love, I surrender to truth, I surrender to God " Once I have said this I can surrender knowing that I am not inviting anything else but that into my being, should anything else be here it is not invited and I am not surrendering to any process that the entity might wisdh to pursue! I am safe and I do not fear or project or concern myself with what entities wish to do. I am not interested in them and focus on love and surrender to God through the Holy spirit and Kundalini working on and within me. During the day I try to practice the safieties and love and service is very important. If I am not living it then my night time experiences may reflect that fact. I will go away from her and copy the whole prayer that chrism gave as you may like it as much as I do. Chrism may be able to say more about entities, I know he wrote about " the crucible of reversal " which was a way to rid oneself of entities. I am going to copy and paste the prayer now. blessings and love to you, Julia. Here it is.... I surrender to love I surrender to truth I surrender to God In my thoughts and actions with myself and towards others I give my love and considerations of love towards their wellbeing and my wellbeing. And towards the highest potentials that we can achieve within the choices we make for the expression of our development towards love, and loving, and being loved. In the flow of my life I choose to give health and harmony as an expression of love. I choose to have health and reflect health and happiness to those with whom I interact. I take full responsibility for my actions and my thoughts, and my emotional intentions within the interactions that are expressed by me towards others and towards myself and towards God. I choose to join with Divinity and offer love and accept love in the journey towards my conscious understanding of the wholeness that I am. Prayer from Chrism  ____________ _________ _________ __ James Crompton <james_crompton@ .co. nz> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Mon, January 4, 2010 10:54:17 AM Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] The Night of the Furies  Thanks. I really appreciate people taking the time to read. And thankyou for acknowledging me. I have many questions. I guess they will come out over time. I started the Tibetan rites yesterday - funnily enough I had learnt them on the Ishaya campus all those many years ago. And the pranayamas, and the locks in particular. A man told me to put a tongue to the roof of my mouth and clasp my hands together and also to rub my chest with my fist in a circular motion once.. But I guess at the time I never really new the enormity of what I had got myself into and never realised the extent to which it would last. At the time he was trying to get me to take up Kriya Yoga and I was a bit resistant to adopting new teachings after all I had been through. I always wanted to regain that simplicity that I had started with, but by then everything had already got too complicated. Julia thankyou for telling me of your experience with Reiki. Since I did it to the degree that I did, I am not sure that the enrgy has stopped coming through me. Everytime I touched someone I would feel this energy coming through my hands and I felt it very disconcerting. Likewise everytime I touch myself with my hands. I have prayed for the attunements to be removed but it always just seems to start up again. Sometimes I dont even know anymore if it is Reiki or something else. And since now I have recently done the Reconnection Healing that is another energy that comes through also. I actually found the Reconnection seminar kind of settled my mind a bit after all the myths that I seemed to have picked up about Reiki. Whatever the case after Reiki things have never been the same. Im glad to hear that the entities have stopped bothing you. I have come a bit more accustomed to them now I guess and am not so afraid of them, but they still bother me. It seems they are most prevalents just before I go to sleep and when I wake up in the morning. Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. I realize that I must sound like a crazy person the way that I am talking, but honestly that is the best way that I can describe it. I pray to close channels down and close them down permanently but inevitably they seem to open up again and the entities come back. Someone once told me that I might be a storehouse for them. NIce!!! I dont really know what to think about them. Can anyone help on this front? I am really lost about it. I basically just try and get on with my life in spite of all this but it is always there nagging at me. Would appreciate any answers that you could give me on this front. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi James, I am glad you are writing and sharing your experiences (and your poetry, too). I will share with you my impressions. They may fit for you, and they may not, so as they say, take what you need and leave the rest. From what you are describing of the way the energy flows through you, and the physical sensations that you experience, I wonder if it isn't simply the energy of transformation moving through you. In other words, not something to fear or to try and control, any more than one would fear or try to control puberty. The energy moving through you is sentient, intelligent, and it goes where it needs to go. If a person in your presence needs healing, it will flow through you to heal them. If that person is on the cusp of awakening, it will flow through you to spark them. It is You and not-you, so there is no need to fear or control or take ownership or identity from it. It simply is, and you have become a conduit for the Grace which flows in all things. So be at peace, James, and recognize your experiences as a gift from the Divine. Perhaps you could practice relaxing into your experiences at morning and night, giving thanks for them as you fall asleep as as you wake. This might bring you relief from the fatigue. I suspect you are having your systems upgraded as you sleep. That alone can be fatiguing for a while, but struggling against it and resisting it out of fear and misunderstanding can be exhausting. Maybe you can experiment and see what feels better for you. I'm glad you're here. Please know that you are seen and welcomed on many levels! Peace, Shaz --- James Crompton wrote: > Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. > And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. > Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi James, I went through this stuff. I want to write you and will do so tomorrow. I would like to suggest that you begin to look at every sensation as a divine blessing. Your beliefs/thoughts/fears being activated can become the most blissful blessing you can imagine or a nightmare. Know that divinity is caring for you completely. Every time you feel a sensation that is strange (and yes it can feel sooooo strange as if something is on you or in you) say to the divine or the God you pray to that you surrender completely to them and KNOW and TRUST that you are being cared for. And you are being cared for. I had this exact problem - I felt the kundalini as something " other " than myself went into fear and went through things I never would have had to. Those same feelings that you are experiencing turn into the most joyful bliss and love you can ever imagine. Now I am not saying that you will not feel " strange " energy because you will but each time James say you surrender and trust that it is divinity and you surrender to this divinity. Do not watch or listen to any negative stuff - there will come a time when you can just laugh about it but really just surround yourself with happy uplifting people or youtube comedies or joyous things. So much of what you wrote resonates with what I went through. Even the difficulty being grounded. For me I had to force myself in this world and wasn't so good at it. What I mean is that I would prefer to be off meditating or alone in nature then with lots of people and noise. But the truth is be a bit careful about that - make sure you are going to fun sports events or volunteering with other people - perhaps for now fun stuff. When I was taking classes at night it helped to focus myself in this world. Learning a language - anything that brings you HERE. Walking in nature. If the energy gets too much - you feel too emotional or razzled - take off your shoes and socks and walk in the grass. See how that feels - the earth will help you. You may get a different feeling from walking on sand - it may be more energy - but see what works for you. Force yourself to go out with friends - even just short - meeting them in a cafe. See happy movies - Also you spoke about your palms and feet? Or maybe I'm just thinking of mine. ha My hands and feet James as soon as I lay down (I never did Reiki) - whether to rest or meditate - any relaxing and sometimes even when I'm not...it becomes so intense the energy there. It doesnt have anything to do with entities. I think I described it before as if a vacumn cleaner hose was attached to the bottom of my feet and the palms of my hands and the suction is on HIGH! Its intense. Its also so great!!!!! Its all perspective. I sometimes now wonder about Jesus on the cross with the nails in his hands and feet - because thats what it feels like without the pain - its just sensation and its something to be so very happy for especially when you know others feel it too. And believe me I walked down the road of fear because it takes some getting used to. But as you can see from all the people here - we all FEEL things - feel it moving in us - feel it moving out - my feet bubble a lot - the bottoms feel like I'm walking on bubbles. Now I know I am okay and with this complete surrendering and learning to trust divinity (which for me being the nonreligious person I am - took some doing) Not only am I okay but I am so humbled and fortunate for this gift - I can hardly believe it. Which brings me to something else. Belief is HUGE! Perspective is everything! I had trust issues with the divine or God. (: Sometimes our " stuff " comes up from inside and I sorta went through this thing for awhile thinking that God had it out for me or something. Nice, huh? (: I now realize every issue - every emotion that came up - everything was just my false beliefs. What I mean by that is I felt weak - I felt alone - I felt fear - security/victim issues. All this stuff wasn't God trying to stick it to me - it was my stuff coming up from the past - these false beliefs - I have learned to surrender all these feelings (am still learning) to God and know that they are false. We are all one - God doesnt have it out for me if you can imagine that ha- it comes up to be cleared. Or maybe some things that I have not been happy with in my life come up for me to face - to change them. For instance I am in one now - well it started a few months ago (not fear work stuff)and I did my normal reaction which was panic. (which by the way as Chrism always reminds us to eat watermelon which helps the adrenal glands - because you will have pressure there and go into that fight/flight response - so sometimes just doing that everyday will help you move out of fear issues or other issues) Anyway I went into panic at first as I seem to do. (yes I am still learning - sloooowwww learner) Anyway I kept saying these things....I surrender - whatever happens...happens...ect. But still I had anxiety I couldn't shake it right away. Then I looked back at some of my other lessons - and was wondering how I got out of those and why those came up and realized I could almost pick each lesson from something from growing up and see how I had to face it - surrender it - and TRUST and know that I was going to be okay. It was all just a false belief. So I started going back to the beach at sunrise every day. (The hour of sunrise and sunset is very powerful for prayer/mediation...ect....or is that just my belief? ha) So first I like to feel love for everyone and everything and appreciate the beauty of it all. I pray for love and peace and well-being for all and much more. Doesn't take long but I do it until I feel it strongly. Then I prayed for guidance not from a helpless place - but from a place of knowing that all answers are already there. As I look out at the majesty of this beautiful world and the lake and the prana is dancing in the air...whats my little problem for God...not a big deal at all. So I ask for guidance and what I need - inspiration doors opening - easily and joyfully - ....ect. YOU KNOW WHAT??? THe craziest thing!!!! I have been getting sooooooooo many ideas out of seemingly nowhere to help me - its almost crazy. I mean I still have to do the action but I don't mean God just sent me one answer for my problem (which is no problem) but inspiration just keeps coming and coming and coming. Its crazy wonderful. So try this maybe and see how you feel... So when you " feel " stuff moving in you or on you now think of all of us - and know its normal! It's normal in kundalini land - and you our friend have landed in a beautiful land filled with oneness, bliss and love so strong it will bring you to tears. You may still have to face some of your false beliefs. ( I know some call it other things - this is all just my opinion) For instance - there have been many times I thought as mystical things happened that maybe I'm just going nuts ha - because its not normal - so I come here and write and joke about what happened - but secretly I was always hoping someone would say - Yeah that happened to me too - or something similar you know? And sure enough sooner or later I would read that someone for instance sees the air blinking or ribbons of colors shooting through the room or weird feelings in the body - nice feelings really - but strange stuff ... and then thats all I needed. And I would feel so much better. So if those thoughts come up - please come here and write and share them so someone can tell you what they went through or saw or felt and you will feel so much better. And soon you will even be exuberant for this blessing. So if you feel nuts ever - shout out!!! I have the seat right up front in the " wondering whats real and wondering if I'm nuts " show...A couple months ago I started hearing this music and then a womans voice humming beautifully to me over my head. Now every night I usually here tones above my head in different spots. Before I would get all nervous about that but now I just surrender and know that whatever divinity brings me is okay and that maybe I can not understand it now or maybe I never will but I slowly- like the poster child for what not to do - have finally learned that its all good - and it is. So if you wake up in the middle of the night and hear or see things - its all good. That angel that turned ugly for you- was that you? I think that was just a false worry or belief coming up - these things may come up - laugh about it if you can - know that its just you the you deep inside that in an indirect way may need to be looked at - When you can surrender to whatever the divine brings it will stop. When you can say thats just an illusion - and ignore it - I'm not saying you won't feel fear or didn't feel fear - but thats okay - just tell yourself you know and trust that you are cared for and you are - After living some rather unpleasant experiences - not knowing how not to be afraid when you are afraid - (: I started getting lessons. I would hear a gong go off in my ear. Something would be shown to me that I didn't like and I would hear this instuction that it was an illusion - almost like telling me to shout out illusion. So I did - and it disappeared. Stuff like that. I feel the air blow through my body as if my body is not solid - I see the walls disappear and turn into tunnels - I've had a lot of lessons in illusions - probably because I needed to learn that my fears were just that - illusions and that I am more than just my body and that there is more than just this reality. SO anyway - wow I was rather long-winded - I was just going to write a line or two. Sorry. So no worries if you feel something weird or see something strange - its just something that you need to see whether to learn to face that deep fear inside and know that its not real or to learn to trust and surrender to divinity - To me its like a best friend - if you have a fear or have a surrender lesson - know that in the middle of the night Shakti/kundalini comes sometimes with something to be surrendered to - and when you surrender its beautiful bliss. I told myself (back when) if I saw something scary I would pretend it was my best friend playing a joke on me - so I could lighten up about the whole thing. So that was the last time something unpleasant happened like that - I had to face it - I felt fear yes...but thought of my best friend - and surrendered and my body broke out in bliss and I never ever saw or faced another scary thing again. And know that there are so many beautiful wise fun people here who are so incredible and will support you and help you along the way and you too can help all by sharing your experiences. We are very blessed that started this site and is there to help you too. A big happy shout out to you Chrism! (: Its good to let out your feelings and or fears or joys whatever here - You'll feel lots better. Read the safties and have fun in your daily life with a joyous outlook and sometimes you may not feel joyous - thats okay too - don't feel bad for yourself about anything - self-love - feel love and trust for yourself, god and all -and if you don't thats okay come talk here and someone will surely lift you as they have me so many times... Throwing a big chi ball at you and all my k friends - (: Debs (I'm the other Deb - going to change my name to MIA since I've been missing in action so much here...so love to you all.... Mia (: P.S. - Btw James - now that you know that its all good - WOW - wait until you see how good it feels to be in that body of yours now that you are in k land. Did I say wow? WOWWOWWOW! Feels so good! I have a secret smile on my face - oh come on k friends...you do too!! (: Many blissful moments to you!!! , " shaktiaz " <shaktiaz wrote: > > Hi James, > > I am glad you are writing and sharing your experiences (and your poetry, too). > > I will share with you my impressions. They may fit for you, and they may not, so as they say, take what you need and leave the rest. > > From what you are describing of the way the energy flows through you, and the physical sensations that you experience, I wonder if it isn't simply the energy of transformation moving through you. In other words, not something to fear or to try and control, any more than one would fear or try to control puberty. > > The energy moving through you is sentient, intelligent, and it goes where it needs to go. If a person in your presence needs healing, it will flow through you to heal them. If that person is on the cusp of awakening, it will flow through you to spark them. It is You and not-you, so there is no need to fear or control or take ownership or identity from it. It simply is, and you have become a conduit for the Grace which flows in all things. > > So be at peace, James, and recognize your experiences as a gift from the Divine. Perhaps you could practice relaxing into your experiences at morning and night, giving thanks for them as you fall asleep as as you wake. This might bring you relief from the fatigue. I suspect you are having your systems upgraded as you sleep. That alone can be fatiguing for a while, but struggling against it and resisting it out of fear and misunderstanding can be exhausting. Maybe you can experiment and see what feels better for you. > > I'm glad you're here. Please know that you are seen and welcomed on many levels! > > Peace, > Shaz > > --- James Crompton wrote: > > Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. > > And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. > > Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Dear James, Mia, Tara, Tiffany, Kas, Thank you for posting your experiences. i would be lying if i tell you that none of those would scare me cuz it does...big time. i wouldn't see Kruger movies even with free popcorns!! Throw in some chocolates and i still wouldn't open my eyes. Chrism says, wait a while cuz i too am gonna go thru the path you've thread!! By Goolllyy, you know that feeling when you're about to enter the dentist's door?! But...thanks to you all... you survived.. and so must i. help me Shakti.. Blessings, ty --- On Mon, 1/4/10, James Crompton <james_crompton wrote: James Crompton <james_crompton Re: The Night of the Furies Monday, January 4, 2010, 10:54 AM Â Thanks. I really appreciate people taking the time to read. And thankyou for acknowledging me. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Missing inaction - sounds very taoist. But seriously, Debs, this was a great post. Love, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi Julia --When you say re reiki, " Since I did it to the degree that I did " what do you mean? I thought they were only 3 degrees to reiki, one and two were about giving reiki near and distance healing and the next degree did not add anything except the " ability " to initiate others? Are you saying that the energy that is channeled through the body changes depending on how many levels you do? Are you saying that entities " attach " to an individual because of the number of reiki degrees one does? -- I probably have some misconceptions about reiki. In answer to this what I meant was that when I started doing Reiki noone really told me how to do it.. My kundalini was already active if I am right in my understanding of it well before I took up Reiki. So I was always hyperensitive to everything. Unforutnately I learnt Reiki from someone who didn't really know what he was doing with it. I am not even sure to this day whether I got the right attunements but I did Level 1 and 2 and he gave them both to me very close to each other because he " thought I was ready " . Hmmm. He didn't really explain how I was to do it. So I just did it on anybody and everything and quite a lot. I did it on people, I sent symbols to people who were walking past that looked like they were in pain. I did it on myself trying to open myself up and I didn;t do it according to any system because I was never told any. I remember consciously trying to awaken myself to heal my back to open my third eye etc. It wasn't long anyway before it didn't seem like I needed to make any of the symbols as mere intention seemed to channel the energy. And not long before everything seemed to get out of hand. I felt like I lost control over it. The energy seemed to start channeling even when I didn't intend it and it felt like it was leaking out of my hands and the energy was coming out of my kidney area. One acupuncturist told me that my life force was leaking out through my hands and I was dying. And it really felt like this sometimes. He would put needles in my hands and I would have a severe reaction to it. He also told me I tihnk that I hadn't closed off the healings and for this reason the energy was still filtering out to all thse people that I had done reiki on and it was still going and that I needed to consciously close it off each time or something. And that is why the energy was coming through me all the time apparently. He and some other people told me about protecting myself each time I healed and gave me protection prayers to say. But I really didn't know what I had got myself into. It also seemed like entities came off people on to me or something or into me through my hands or something like that. At any rate often after I ahd put my hands on someone I would later in the day be overwhelmed with these thoughts that I didn;t recognise as being mine. It felt like I had literally other beings inside me. At one time it flet as if they were driving me to try and kill myself even. Thats baiscally what I mean. -- " Do you know that kundalini has been activated or awakened in you? " -- From everything that has been described to me on this site and from other things that I have read, I definitely believe that it has been awakened in me and well before Reiki. From Ishayas Ascnesion. All the symptoms that are mentioned, I have experienced all of them at various times. Along with yes some of the bliss too. One apparently very highly recommended crystal healer told me that it had risen up to my neck and she gave me some similar exercises to the chakra breathing one that posted just recently. Except breathing in the colours of the rainbow red into the base chakra, orange into the pelvis, yellow into the naval, green into the heart, blue into the throat and indigo into the third eye and violet into the crown. And breathing energy up through the earth and out the top of my head etc. -- " If you know this to be true you can surrender your fears of other entities. The energy of Kundalini is very very tactile, I mean so tactile it is amazing. i can remember fearing that the Kundalini process/enegry was not from God and holy spirit and that it was the energy of some other source. What i am trying to say in a very wordy blabblering way is that Kundalini is Kundalini and entity incursion is entity incursion and sometimes fear can merge the experiences and we can be lost. " -- Yes I sometimes wonder if this is what I had done. I guess Reiki had been such a dark experience for me that I wanted it out of my system but was never sure anymore where Reiki symptoms ended and kundalini symptoms began. By this I mean which symptoms were of Reiki and which were of kundalini. Thanks for the prayer and thanks for this other bit. It makes me feel a bit more relaxed about my symptoms. And that perhaps I can stop fighting them, and yes that surrender is more the key to it all. " Trust your Kundalini, she knows what is best for you. commit to listening and pray.. says that it is very important that we pray to God (whatever that means for you) and if this is difficult that we cultivate a practice. Chrism wrote a prayer some time back and I have often said the first three lines of it with absolute sincerity when I have been concerned about entity presence. " I surrender to love, I surrender to truth, I surrender to God " Once I have said this I can surrender knowing that I am not inviting anything else but that into my being, should anything else be here it is not invited and I am not surrendering to any process that the entity might wisdh to pursue! I am safe and I do not fear or project or concern myself with what entities wish to do. I am not interested in them and focus on love and surrender to God through the Holy spirit and Kundalini working on and within me. During the day I try to practice the safieties and love and service is very important. If I am not living it then my night time experiences may reflect that fact. I will go away from her and copy the whole prayer that chrism gave as you may like it as much as I do. Chrism may be able to say more about entities, I know he wrote about " the crucible of reversal " which was a way to rid oneself of entities. I am going to copy and paste the prayer now. blessings and love to you, Julia. Here it is.... I surrender to love I surrender to truth I surrender to God In my thoughts and actions with myself and towards others I give my love and considerations of love towards their wellbeing and my wellbeing. And towards the highest potentials that we can achieve within the choices we make for the expression of our development towards love, and loving, and being loved. In the flow of my life I choose to give health and harmony as an expression of love. I choose to have health and reflect health and happiness to those with whom I interact. I take full responsibility for my actions and my thoughts, and my emotional intentions within the interactions that are expressed by me towards others and towards myself and towards God. I choose to join with Divinity and offer love and accept love in the journey towards my conscious understanding of the wholeness that I am. Prayer from Chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks Shaz. Yes this also echoes what Julia said. That i need to stop resisting and just be at peace with it. That I am being upgraded overnight haha. I would like to believe that haha. Part of the problem I experience is that my parents or my father in particular makes me feel guilty for lying in bed and he thinks he knows all the answers to this. They see my sleepiness as a sign of laziness and dont realize the extreme fatigue that I experience on a daily basis. Its not that I want to, I would much rather be leaping out of bed, but I guess I just dont feel that. Â Hi James, I am glad you are writing and sharing your experiences (and your poetry, too). I will share with you my impressions. They may fit for you, and they may not, so as they say, take what you need and leave the rest. From what you are describing of the way the energy flows through you, and the physical sensations that you experience, I wonder if it isn't simply the energy of transformation moving through you. In other words, not something to fear or to try and control, any more than one would fear or try to control puberty. The energy moving through you is sentient, intelligent, and it goes where it needs to go. If a person in your presence needs healing, it will flow through you to heal them. If that person is on the cusp of awakening, it will flow through you to spark them. It is You and not-you, so there is no need to fear or control or take ownership or identity from it. It simply is, and you have become a conduit for the Grace which flows in all things. So be at peace, James, and recognize your experiences as a gift from the Divine. Perhaps you could practice relaxing into your experiences at morning and night, giving thanks for them as you fall asleep as as you wake. This might bring you relief from the fatigue. I suspect you are having your systems upgraded as you sleep. That alone can be fatiguing for a while, but struggling against it and resisting it out of fear and misunderstanding can be exhausting. Maybe you can experiment and see what feels better for you. I'm glad you're here. Please know that you are seen and welcomed on many levels! Peace, Shaz --- James Crompton wrote: > Someone once told me that I was going astral travelling without a guide and picking them up in my sleep. Well it sounded bizarre at the time but every morning I wake up feeling more tired than I went to bed it seems. > And when I do protection prayers or tell them to go even if I am not sure they are there, evidently my body will react in ways to suggest there is something in me. > Particularly it seems they lodge in my belly. And sometimes i think they come in through the top of my head the back of my neck and in through my hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Pretend then its us with silly masks on...we'll be laughing and smiling under those - so when you surrender to divinity - she'll be sure to send you loads of bliss Wishing you lots of bliss and beautiful experiences (: Mia aka Debs , inkong Flrr <inkong08flrr wrote: > > Dear James, Mia, Tara, Tiffany, Kas, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Thank you David, It's funny you said that - I love watching Tao quotes on youtube, maybe its sinking into my subconscious (finally huh?) (; Much love, Mia aka Debs , " djgottlieb " <dgottlieb wrote: > > Missing inaction - sounds very taoist. But seriously, Debs, this was a great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 ) --- On Thu, 7/1/10, flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 wrote: flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 Re: The Night of the Furies Received: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 1:06 AM Â Pretend then its us with silly masks on...we'll be laughing and smiling under those - so when you surrender to divinity - she'll be sure to send you loads of bliss Wishing you lots of bliss and beautiful experiences (: Mia aka Debs Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , inkong Flrr <inkong08flrr@ ...> wrote: > > Dear James, Mia, Tara, Tiffany, Kas, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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