Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I always find discussion on the ego an interesting topic. I know and freely admit that most of my life was ego based, but not in a negative way. My ego drove me to study hard and gain qualifications that enabled me to take up jobs which helped others, through Teaching or Counselling etc. It afforded my family a good standard of living, my children a good education and enabled me to help out family members financially. I do not see and wrong in this. Maybe I should, I dont know? I am no longer in full time work, or have a lovely home and we get by on just enough money. No treats or holidays, and I can only afford to see my children & Mothers once a year, which saddens me. My daughter has Lupus, one mother is 90 yrs old, and the other recently had a stroke. If I were to use my ego led brain to find a good job and be able to have holidays and see my family more often , is this wrong? i had given up completely on my s & x life as J is ill and we had not been intimate for two years. Now hes feeling a little better and our s & x life has resumed again. I had just got used to being celibate so do I now say " No " to him? Do I carry on my path to enlightenment discarding the needs of my husband, parents and children? Are their needs driving my ego? I know a solitary life would bring me closer to my desire, but as Dianne has often noted we cant abandon our children. We bought them into this world with the promise to 'be there' for them, to turn our backs as mothers is unnatural. Or is it? Any answers please. Blessings, Iona x , " " <> wrote: > > The ego doesnt know about being ready to surrender. It will tell you what it thinks you want to hear: > > " Oh yes I am sooo ready! " > > Then it will begin to to backslide on the many areas of what the surrender encompasses. > > " Oh well thats a personal truth I wont surrender that. " > > or > > " Oh thats not part of the Kundalini so no need to surrender this. " > > And on and on until there is really no surrender being made. > > There is no rush to do this unless the imperative is that strong within you. Be as complete as you can and allow the surrender to be retained honestly and sincerely in that complete form. The ego may struggle with this especially when the physical teacher is involved. > > Some of you may be given the opportunity to surrender directly to the Shakti via the teacher. Some will need to do it straight through the Shakti without the teacher. See what is given for you at this time. > > However the dynamic is for you do your best to surrender all aspects of your life from the mundane to the s & xual to the mental, emotional and physical. > > " Saying and Being " ready for surrender are to very different states of being. So be honest and clear with yourself. If you are ready then so be it, if not there is no judgment merely some more work to be done. > > blessings to all! - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 hi Iona, it seems like you have done a lot of good in your life and i have always been drawn to the compassion and care which you embody. I feel its a natural path of development and growth to explore the ego motivated life and a lot of good comes from that. I always felt drawn to embrace the world as a path of transformation (maybe too much embracing of the wrong kind..lol), so felt tantra was my natural path. I use tantra to mean the path of engaging with the energetic dynamics of the world, and doing that with full awareness. This can be difficult as it can be easy to get overwhelmed and lost in habit and attachment and lose ones sense of self, yet if done repeatedly with full awareness, then engagement can be a path of liberation. The engagement through work and social responsibility is basically the path of karma yoga. I also always felt that it was better to stay engaged with the world, in whatever capacity, as without that engagement, some attachments would be unactivated, and seconds, without engagement with awareness, i wouldnt be able to develop skillfull means. Only you can ask if your families needs are driving your ego. Simply notice if you feel relaxed and at ease with them and serving them, or tense and compelled to do so. Also ask if you may be keeping them in dependancy on you (which is egoic). If so, simply bring awareness and curiosity to the inner tension as you engage, ask what patterns are being recreated through the engagement, and ask God to teach you a new way that still honors their needs while simultaneously liberating your authentic self. love bruce , " ionaskydancer " <ionaskydancer wrote: > > I always find discussion on the ego an interesting topic. I know and freely admit that most of my life was ego based, but not in a negative way. My ego drove me to study hard and gain qualifications that enabled me to take up jobs which helped others, through Teaching or Counselling etc. It afforded my family a good standard of living, my children a good education and enabled me to help out family members financially. I do not see and wrong in this. Maybe I should, I dont know? > > I am no longer in full time work, or have a lovely home and we get by on just enough money. No treats or holidays, and I can only afford to see my children & Mothers once a year, which saddens me. My daughter has Lupus, one mother is 90 yrs old, and the other recently had a stroke. If I were to use my ego led brain to find a good job and be able to have holidays and see my family more often , is this wrong? > > i had given up completely on my s & x life as J is ill and we had not been intimate for two years. Now hes feeling a little better and our s & x life has resumed again. I had just got used to being celibate so do I now say " No " to him? Do I carry on my path to enlightenment discarding the needs of my husband, parents and children? Are their needs driving my ego? I know a solitary life would bring me closer to my desire, but as Dianne has often noted we cant abandon our children. We bought them into this world with the promise to 'be there' for them, to turn our backs as mothers is unnatural. Or is it? > > Any answers please. > > Blessings, Iona x > > , " " <@> wrote: > > > > The ego doesnt know about being ready to surrender. It will tell you what it thinks you want to hear: > > > > " Oh yes I am sooo ready! " > > > > Then it will begin to to backslide on the many areas of what the surrender encompasses. > > > > " Oh well thats a personal truth I wont surrender that. " > > > > or > > > > " Oh thats not part of the Kundalini so no need to surrender this. " > > > > And on and on until there is really no surrender being made. > > > > There is no rush to do this unless the imperative is that strong within you. Be as complete as you can and allow the surrender to be retained honestly and sincerely in that complete form. The ego may struggle with this especially when the physical teacher is involved. > > > > Some of you may be given the opportunity to surrender directly to the Shakti via the teacher. Some will need to do it straight through the Shakti without the teacher. See what is given for you at this time. > > > > However the dynamic is for you do your best to surrender all aspects of your life from the mundane to the s & xual to the mental, emotional and physical. > > > > " Saying and Being " ready for surrender are to very different states of being. So be honest and clear with yourself. If you are ready then so be it, if not there is no judgment merely some more work to be done. > > > > blessings to all! - chrism > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Iona, You can continue performing your duties towards your husband,children and parents. There have been Many saints and enlightened personalities. They were married yet achieved what they wanted to, in their spiritual path.............shrikant ________________________________ ionaskydancer <ionaskydancer Sun, 17 January, 2010 11:15:32 PM Re: Is your Ego ready?-It cant ever be, can it? I always find discussion on the ego an interesting topic. I know and freely admit that most of my life was ego based, but not in a negative way. My ego drove me to study hard and gain qualifications that enabled me to take up jobs which helped others, through Teaching or Counselling > Reply to group Messages in this topic (10) Recent Activity: * New Members 6 * New Photos 2 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use .. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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