Some Impressions at John of God by Stephen:

February 18, 2010

Since Julia (Not her real name--but her 'fugitive name' LOL!!!)---is sharing her

journal; I think I'll share some personal impressions I got.

Our journals are long--because the experiences so profound that we put a lot of

words in them at John of God.

We only have so much time to read all of this--and Julia's stuff is very

good---No need for my journal to be there to distract you!

So I offer---Some Impressions at John of God:

People are people no matter where they 'come from'. We have various stages of

ego no matter how enlightened we think we are .

Ego is a tool---mainly for self survival. It comes in handy!

Churches have similar people in them---No matter how 'advanced spiritually' they

claim to be.

We have bosses--troublemakers--spiritual junkies--Damned good

people--doormats---users-- in any belief system.

I saw more 'spiritual junkies' at John of God than I have seen since those

1969-1972 'hippie' days.

Spiritual Junkie is a term I coined to describe the people who are more

interested in the sensations than the message. They do what they do 'because it

is fun' or because 'they feel important'.

This mind set makes one less inclined to hear the personal message. It is

important to ask yourself often; " Am I doing 'X' because I want to know how to

be a better person and to help others---or I'm I doing 'X' solely for the 'rush'

it gives me? " (Enjoying the rush is fine---just don't miss the message!).

I saw many folks that came back again and again. Some don't want to leave.

They don't leave! They feel accepted for the first time and don't want to

leave.

That's fine. But it's hard for a hermit to serve mankind. If you are serving

mankind at your best at the 'compound'---well that will work too!

I was also amused at how defensive (or offensive) some of my Enlightened new

found brothers or sisters became when I wasn't in total agreement with them.

When it got to that point I would smile and excuse myself--and walk away.

Here I see how all humans behave in similar patterns in groups---no matter how

'Enlightened' they try to be.

It doesn't seem to matter if you are in the Local Baptist Church of The Red Neck

Pompadour-

or The Enlightened Church of Kundalini -

or The All Open and Welcoming Brazilian Cool Church (We Accept ALL Religions!!!)

I LOVE these folks!!! Really! --

But in all you will find varying degrees of Enlightenment.

......and that is beautiful....

It opens the door to sharing. It tells me not to desperately seek answers---to

not desperately seek 'something better'.

If I am compelled to go somewhere ---I go-

-If not--I stay and savor the gifts I have been given.

I thank God for the experience and for those who made it possible!

:)

Stephen

-

BruceO

Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:37 PM

Re: very very long rambeling re the

casa

Thanks Julia.. I found this interesting...

love

bruce

, " Julia " <jajahern

wrote:

>

> Last year when I first heard about the Casa De Dom Inacio and John of god in

Brazil I knew deep in my heart that I would travel there some day. Then in more

recent months when it looked like a vist to the place with chrism was going to

happen I felt a huge calling to go. I had dreams about the place and while I

could not recall the details, the feeling and the calling to go there was very

strong. I listened to this and decided that I would go. This was a very big

decision for me and yet I was able to make it very quickly as I was compelled to

go. Why was I going? I really had no definite answer to that question. I was not

going for a physical healing it was a journey of a spiritual nature of that I

was sure. As the time to depart drew near I wondered if I should actually ask

for a physical healing for my thyroid and then later for my uterus. I left that

option open and started to consider it.

> I had no expectations and I was very curious to see what lay in store for

me.

> If memory serves about 3 weeks before the trip began I started to have a

difficult time. I had grave doubts about the trip. I had also come accross

fairly negative information about John of God and I had to deal with all the

stuff that brought up for me. At the same time I had physical challenges in my

body and this was difficult also.

> My emotions were very fragile and I also had some severe seperation anxiety

at the thought of leaving my small children for two weeks. I was in some turmile

about my own inner journey and while I didn't know it then, it was all part of

the preperation and clearing out so that I was not distracted on arrival and

could give my full attention and awareness to my process while I was in Brazil.

> About a week before I left all of my difficulties began to to be resolved

and I returned to peace and to the knowing that I was called to go to this

place.

> Meeting with the group at Brasilia airport was wonderful. It was the first

time I experienced K energy move in me as a continous response to the presence

of others.

> When we were all gathered (minus Stephen and Chrism) we met with Billy who

was our driver to Abadiania in the Goias state of Brazil.

> I was blown away by the green country side, I mean green green and lucious.

There are but two seasons in Brazil, the rainy season and the dry season. The

green starts to fade around April and as the dry season advances everything

turnes to brown and gets scorched and dies.

> Anyway we arrived at our Hotel and got our rooms.

> I couldn't believe I had finally arrived and had two weeks all to myself to

explore and focus on what ever was to be given while here.

> had suggested that I keep a diary and so I did. When ever I woke up

during the night and when I returned to my room during the day I wrote in the

diary. I think what I will do is to speak about certain things that happened and

quote bits and pieces of my writing.

> I will just do one or two entries as I am sure it is not of particular

interest to anyone but myself.

> First though I thought you might like to know a bit about the protocols at

the casa.

> There are many many rules that must be followed. It is said that if you

break with the protocols then the contract for healing is also broken. The rules

and protocols are said to be given through John of God by the entities. So in

the casa and surrounding area the entities are in charge. They decide on what is

ok and what is not ok to do while in the casa and indeed in the Abadiania area.

The hotels are viewed as Hospital wards where people recover after their

interventions. ( the words operations and surgeries are sometimes used but

intervention and cleansing and helaing are the official words) It is said that

the entities work on folks while they are in the area and in their hotels and in

the grounds of the casa. They do much of their work when people sleep.

> John of god is present in the casa every Wed Thurs and Friday.

> When one arrives there are different options one can choose to do.

> On our fist visit we were to go to the first time line and have no more than

3 questions for the Entity (john of god) One writes this in English and then you

wait in a q for a translator to change it to portugeuse for you. then you go

into the meeting room and wait.

> So... people who are not going to see the entity (john of god)

> what options do they have. Well the current room is the room where people

can go and sit in meditation. John of god is in this room and people q to meet

with him. There are a few different areas to the current room. On the left as

you enter is the first section of those meditating. their function is to offer

cleansing to the people as they enter the room, they also keep the energy as

high as possible in order for the healing work to be done. anyone can choose to

sit here. The next section of people have been told to sit in current and so you

are not supposed to sit in this section unless you have been told to do so, in

other words given permission to sit there. " Permission to..... " was a biggie at

the casa. Then near to John of God were more folks that he invited to sit close

to him as mediums.

> There is an area where one can get crystal bath treatments. Crystals with

coloured lights are placed over the chakras and as you lie on the bed soft music

plays and the chakras are worked on.

> There is a sacred waterfall. One must ask for permission to go here.

> The entities work on people here. men go with men ande women with women.

each individual goes into the water and says a cleansing prayer, one can stay

there for 2 or three mins.

> When I dedcided to come to the casa I decided that I would stay in that area

only and not touraround Brazil, that is what one is told to do anyway. I made a

contract that I would committ to being in the casa to following the protocols

and that I would be open to receiving and to serving. I wondered about the

exchange that took place. My first sitting in the meeting room was an amazing

experience and it was because I could feel the presence of the entities there

that I came to the following decision. I said that I was offering my k energy

and that the entities could receive it. It was important that they could not

just come and take k from me without my say so or permission. To me there is a

big difference between taking something you want and being given something you

want. Once I had done that I was then able to be fully open to the energies

there to give and to receive. although the general " permission " thing began to

annoy me as time passed in the casa I also resonated a bit with it because I had

used permission myself and had a contract of exchange.

> I will quote a bit from my diary now.

>

> Afternoon 14.45 Tuesday Feb 2nd

>

> " I went to the soup kitchen but none of our group were there. It ws 11.10 so

they must have gone on walkabout.

> I went into what is called the meeting room I think. I sat to the side of

the stage and looked around the walls at the pictures. Lots of interesting ones.

I looked at the prayer triangle and could see the requests that people had

placed there. There were only a few people present. I closed my eyes and began

to meditate. I opened my eyes again fairly fast....phew, there was energy there.

Not just the K within and upon me but other energy besides. I closed my eyes

again and began to move into a deeper and deeper space.... I came back out and

considered things for a while..... " (this was when i gave the permission)

>

> " .... I really can't write down what occured sequentially but here is some

of what happened.

> * trance state - head moved upwards, to the left and to the right

> * Great heat in the left of throat in the thyroid area, heat coming from my

back out through the front around the heart chakra and travelling up to my

throat. A huge weight pressing down on my left shoulder..... aware of activity

in my throat and aware that I was not swallowing. This went on for ages with

slight head movements and phases of moving in and out of my head.

> * surges of energy

> * surges of bliss

> * spontanious prayers said

> * communication given through phrases... can't recall the words

>

> ---- I have no questions for John of god, absolutly none. I am ready to

surrender to the work that is mine to do.

> ---- there were a few times during the experience where I think my ego was

getting in so I offered to surrender my ego on those occasions. I spoke to the

kundalini to god to the Entities.....( too personal to write here) .... At one

stage I opened my eyes but they were forced closed again..... I could not move

until suddenly at some stage I knew it was time to leave.

> I met Angela and at the book store I booked two crystal bath sessions at

12.30 and I headed straight down to the rooms as it was that time then. I lay on

the bed and the crystals pulsated colours. The sessions were lovely, I could

feel the heat all the way up the front of my body, there was a lot of feet

shuffeling and noise around the rooms and this really jarred but I sent out love

and each time I just blissed. I could feel great heat in my feet which is still

here..... got back to the casa and stephen had arrived, it was good to see him.

today is Chrism's birthday so we are going to skype hime later...... "

>

> Ok I will not write as much again as really the detail is not necessary but

I will post this as it gives a taste of what it was like for me as the journey

began.

>

> love julia.

>

February 18, 2010

LOL I am glad that I have already confessed some time back that my real name was

not Julia!

Hi to the new folks who didn't know that. My real name is Amelia.

When I came here first I did not feel ok using my real name so I took my

maternal grandmothers name Julia. Amelia is my paternal grandmothers name. I

am so used to being called Julia here that it is really easier to let Julia

remain my name. It is my kundalini name!

Stephen, I am sure folks would enjoy reading what you wrote in your diary. If

you don't want to share fair enough, but please do not with hold just because I

have shared.

My impressions at John of God's would be different to yours Stephen so by

offering different impressions and different experiences we offer a better

picture for folks reading.

Without a doubt ego's were on display at John of God's as indeed they are every

where in the world and in every group. That said for me the greatest display

was of a common bond of care and love and goodness. Some people were desperate

for a cure, the casa was their last chance of life, but desperation was not the

main energy I felt. People arrived here very open to healing and optimistic that

healing was indeed a real possibility. People do return to the casa again and

again but I would not assume to make a judgement on why this was so. Those who

are desperate for answers have an opportunity to seek answers in this place.

One hermit praying and being in divine communication can make a difference to

mankind I feel. Being amoung the masses is not the only way to serve mankind.

All in all my impressions of the casa were that it was a place where great good

and compassion was emmitted, and that it was such a dynamic and powerful

healing energy that it could be transmitted through out the casa and even out

into the world.

love julia

, " Master Condrey "

<mastercondrey wrote:

>

> Since Julia (Not her real name--but her 'fugitive name' LOL!!!)---is sharing

her journal; I think I'll share some personal impressions I got.

>

> Our journals are long--because the experiences so profound that we put a lot

of words in them at John of God.

> We only have so much time to read all of this--and Julia's stuff is very

good---No need for my journal to be there to distract you!

>

> So I offer---Some Impressions at John of God:

>

> People are people no matter where they 'come from'. We have various stages of

ego no matter how enlightened we think we are .

> Ego is a tool---mainly for self survival. It comes in handy!

>

> Churches have similar people in them---No matter how 'advanced spiritually'

they claim to be.

> We have bosses--troublemakers--spiritual junkies--Damned good

people--doormats---users-- in any belief system.

>

> I saw more 'spiritual junkies' at John of God than I have seen since those

1969-1972 'hippie' days.

>

> Spiritual Junkie is a term I coined to describe the people who are more

interested in the sensations than the message. They do what they do 'because it

is fun' or because 'they feel important'.

>

> This mind set makes one less inclined to hear the personal message. It is

important to ask yourself often; " Am I doing 'X' because I want to know how to

be a better person and to help others---or I'm I doing 'X' solely for the 'rush'

it gives me? " (Enjoying the rush is fine---just don't miss the message!).

>

> I saw many folks that came back again and again. Some don't want to leave.

They don't leave! They feel accepted for the first time and don't want to

leave.

> That's fine. But it's hard for a hermit to serve mankind. If you are serving

mankind at your best at the 'compound'---well that will work too!

>

> I was also amused at how defensive (or offensive) some of my Enlightened new

found brothers or sisters became when I wasn't in total agreement with them.

When it got to that point I would smile and excuse myself--and walk away.

>

> Here I see how all humans behave in similar patterns in groups---no matter how

'Enlightened' they try to be.

>

> It doesn't seem to matter if you are in the Local Baptist Church of The Red

Neck Pompadour-

> or The Enlightened Church of Kundalini -

> or The All Open and Welcoming Brazilian Cool Church (We Accept ALL

Religions!!!) I LOVE these folks!!! Really! --

> But in all you will find varying degrees of Enlightenment.

>

> .....and that is beautiful....

>

> It opens the door to sharing. It tells me not to desperately seek

answers---to not desperately seek 'something better'.

>

> If I am compelled to go somewhere ---I go-

>

> -If not--I stay and savor the gifts I have been given.

>

> I thank God for the experience and for those who made it possible!

>

> :)

> Stephen

>

> -

> BruceO

>

> Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:37 PM

> Re: very very long rambeling re the

casa

>

> Thanks Julia.. I found this interesting...

>

> love

> bruce

>

> , " Julia " <jajahern@>

wrote:

> >

> > Last year when I first heard about the Casa De Dom Inacio and John of god

in Brazil I knew deep in my heart that I would travel there some day. Then in

more recent months when it looked like a vist to the place with chrism was going

to happen I felt a huge calling to go. I had dreams about the place and while I

could not recall the details, the feeling and the calling to go there was very

strong. I listened to this and decided that I would go. This was a very big

decision for me and yet I was able to make it very quickly as I was compelled to

go. Why was I going? I really had no definite answer to that question. I was not

going for a physical healing it was a journey of a spiritual nature of that I

was sure. As the time to depart drew near I wondered if I should actually ask

for a physical healing for my thyroid and then later for my uterus. I left that

option open and started to consider it.

> > I had no expectations and I was very curious to see what lay in store for

me.

> > If memory serves about 3 weeks before the trip began I started to have a

difficult time. I had grave doubts about the trip. I had also come accross

fairly negative information about John of God and I had to deal with all the

stuff that brought up for me. At the same time I had physical challenges in my

body and this was difficult also.

> > My emotions were very fragile and I also had some severe seperation

anxiety at the thought of leaving my small children for two weeks. I was in some

turmile about my own inner journey and while I didn't know it then, it was all

part of the preperation and clearing out so that I was not distracted on arrival

and could give my full attention and awareness to my process while I was in

Brazil.

> > About a week before I left all of my difficulties began to to be resolved

and I returned to peace and to the knowing that I was called to go to this

place.

> > Meeting with the group at Brasilia airport was wonderful. It was the first

time I experienced K energy move in me as a continous response to the presence

of others.

> > When we were all gathered (minus Stephen and Chrism) we met with Billy who

was our driver to Abadiania in the Goias state of Brazil.

> > I was blown away by the green country side, I mean green green and

lucious. There are but two seasons in Brazil, the rainy season and the dry

season. The green starts to fade around April and as the dry season advances

everything turnes to brown and gets scorched and dies.

> > Anyway we arrived at our Hotel and got our rooms.

> > I couldn't believe I had finally arrived and had two weeks all to myself

to explore and focus on what ever was to be given while here.

> > had suggested that I keep a diary and so I did. When ever I woke up

during the night and when I returned to my room during the day I wrote in the

diary. I think what I will do is to speak about certain things that happened and

quote bits and pieces of my writing.

> > I will just do one or two entries as I am sure it is not of particular

interest to anyone but myself.

> > First though I thought you might like to know a bit about the protocols at

the casa.

> > There are many many rules that must be followed. It is said that if you