Some Impressions at John of God by Stephen: Part II

February 20, 2010

Hello again, beloved group!

I don't think I really said much about the actual Casa experience for me.

I'll be running off to do stuff soon ---so briefly:

I NEVER thought I was there for the healing--

-God of God was doing a fine job with my heart.

I was being pulled to Brazil--but why?

J.O.G. made a poor impression on me (just me mind you--for my own personal

reasons).

I'm down to a 'Christian Zen' state of mind. I acknowledge Christ--but I want

the simplicity of Zen in my path to God.

I feel too much ritual and drama can be distracting to me. I do better on a

mountaintop conversing with God.

Ritual is excellent for stumbling beginners on their path. I'd rather just spend

all of that ritual time just 'hanging out' with God.

At JOG it looked like a scene from a James Bond Movie. We all dressed in

white--To either side were pretty young mediums in trance. The ones closest to

John were in the bigger throne like chairs. Was it just me--or were the ones

that were closer to him also cuter?

JOG was on a great throne. His bare feet resting on a pillow. A little too much

for me!

He caressed the hands of some that went before I did and talked lovingly to

them.

When it was my turn---he didn't allow me to get closer than 10 feet. He barked

out -- " OPERATION--10 pm!! " and pointed the way to get my ass out of there. I

smiled and thanked him. Maybe the old boy IS clairvoyant! Heh-heh!

I disliked the demands placed on us. Maybe some need more guidance than me. I am

a Master of Self Discipline.

I do well being moral without demands from a stranger.

I didn't like the way that others who were there visiting suddenly became

obstinate to those of us who did not cringe at his demands.

Sorry---ego or whatever---you try to force me to do something and I will (in a

loving manner of course!)--politely tell you to go to hell.

OK---not really! I will just smile and walk away. Maybe the evil ego will try

to encourage me to curse your mom and dad..

..but I am doing better with that for the past few decades...

Add this to the fact that I knew I was there for some unknown reason (other than

JOG) and what do you get? A bad feeling in front of JOG.

I do believe the work is good.

The helpers (all who come to pray) are truly doing God's work.

All of the energy because of this put me in an 'altered state' where I felt like

I was walking 3 feet above the ground!

When came in that night talking seriously about E.T.--

I said: " God Help me! As crazy as it may sound--that is why I am here. Something

about the E.T.'s "

I have posted about the E.T.'s for those just tuning in.

For those that felt warmth and goodness from JOG---I'm sure it's because he was

your reason for traveling to Brazil.

I would NEVER discredit your experience!

I will NEVER regret that trip!

I cherish it!

God Bless You and the work at the Casa!

Master Stephen Condrey

Master Condrey's Martial Arts

1049 Fraley Street

Salisbury, NC 28146

phone: 704 279-6001

February 20, 2010

Dear Stephen,

I would like you to read the dream I had of John of God before your visit, as it

was significant that there was a message for you in it. I see it as the people

that were waiting for you in the stone carvings. I don't know if you read it

before. I have copy/pasted it below. (message 60303)Since the dream I have had

visions of the carvings coming to life, and white light filling the temple. The

circle on the floor has also begun to rotate. I don't know why it is that you

would feature in my dream experiences.( Did you feel the energy that has been

gifted in your own Zen garden stones?)

About what you have written about John of God; thank you for your honesty.

Reading your impressions, I hope that I may give my own impressions. We often

see and feel in others what we dislike and most wish to deny in ourselves. This

is not the entire aspect of the person. We see and attack in others that which

we cannot face and accept in ourselves. I say this to you, but it is a learning

for me also. The rituals that disturb you; I am thinking that there is protocol

and ritual in martial arts too?

I can feel your resistance. John of God is a person with many aspects. As are we

all. This does not lessen his amazing gifts. To help with the suffering of

creatures you have to first be prepared to face and feel the suffering without

being engulfed and this is no easy thing.

I respect your perspective on experiences, and hope that you will respect mine.

Love, Sandra

''Dear and friends,

In a dream I found myself (together with some family members) travelling on

dusty roads through Brazil, to visit John of God. There were beautiful green

mountains. We were in a car, and stopped on the way from time to time, to look

at the scenery and the people in villages.

We arrived at the centre, and got out our luggage and went to our rooms. The

rooms were close by; in walking distance. Our group left the rooms and entered

buildings with white corridors. There were many people walking around, and they

were busy with different things; some were reading, writing, and others were

looking at displays that had been set out.

I separated from the others, and I was looking for John of God. He was busy

welcoming people. His hair had gone completely white, like a cloud around his

head, and his eyes had gone very dark. He was wearing white robes, and he was

also very tall. I introduced myself, and at this moment there were no people

around him. He crushed me in his arms in embrace. I was overwhelmed with love

and happiness. Once again he was surrounded by people, and so I left to explore

more of the building.

Far down below I could see there was a temple; a sacred place. It was empty of

people; there were people at the circumference only. It was all built of what

looked like reddish-beige earth. It looked like there was one wall shaped in a

curve, with the one side being open for an entrance.(A bit like an arena) The

wall was built up very high, in steps; and the steps were filled with many

intricate carved figures. They seemed to be mostly animal/bird figures. The

floor of the temple was of the eame earth. There was a humming sound. I put my

hands on the wall, and I could feel powerful vibrations. The humming was coming

from this powerful energy. I felt the energy throbbing through my whole body.

This was wonderful and amazing, and at this moment in the dream I thought that I

must tell this to Stephen. I thought of Chrism's group that will be visiting,

and how amazing it is that I myself am visiting.

Then I found myself standing in the temple area, facing the wall, and I saw

there was a large circle carved in the floor close to the wall on my left. The

circle was full of intricate carvings; I saw a lot of curves. It looked like

writing in curves. Two black birds appeared and they seemed to be moving in slow

motion. They moved to the centre of the circle, and began mating. I was wearing

a loose top and loose pants, not my own clothes, they were like pyjamas. As I

was looking at the birds my pants fell off. I felt so exposed and hurried to

pull them back on. I moved past the circle, to the wall itself. I was looking

for something written. I picked up a statue of a large bird and looked

underneath it,but there was nothing written here. I picked up the next statue;

it was of a flying monkey. The face was sweet and smiling at me, and the wings

were wonderfully detailed in fine filigree work. I turned this over and again

there was nothing written.

I had to go back into the building of people because they were calling me, so I

left my search.

When I woke, I felt so disorientated, as if I was still in Brazil and not in my

home at all. It was such a real experience, as real as my physical reality.

Love, Sandra''

, " Master Condrey "

<mastercondrey wrote:

>

> Hello again, beloved group!

>

> I don't think I really said much about the actual Casa experience for me.

> I'll be running off to do stuff soon ---so briefly:

>

> I NEVER thought I was there for the healing--

> -God of God was doing a fine job with my heart.

> I was being pulled to Brazil--but why?

>

> J.O.G. made a poor impression on me (just me mind you--for my own personal

reasons).

> I'm down to a 'Christian Zen' state of mind. I acknowledge Christ--but I

want the simplicity of Zen in my path to God.

>

> I feel too much ritual and drama can be distracting to me. I do better on a

mountaintop conversing with God.

> Ritual is excellent for stumbling beginners on their path. I'd rather just

spend all of that ritual time just 'hanging out' with God.

>

> At JOG it looked like a scene from a James Bond Movie. We all dressed in

white--To either side were pretty young mediums in trance. The ones closest to

John were in the bigger throne like chairs. Was it just me--or were the ones

that were closer to him also cuter?

>

> JOG was on a great throne. His bare feet resting on a pillow. A little too

much for me!

>

> He caressed the hands of some that went before I did and talked lovingly to

them.

>

> When it was my turn---he didn't allow me to get closer than 10 feet. He barked

out -- " OPERATION--10 pm!! " and pointed the way to get my ass out of there. I

smiled and thanked him. Maybe the old boy IS clairvoyant! Heh-heh!

>

> I disliked the demands placed on us. Maybe some need more guidance than me. I

am a Master of Self Discipline.

> I do well being moral without demands from a stranger.

>

> I didn't like the way that others who were there visiting suddenly became

obstinate to those of us who did not cringe at his demands.

> Sorry---ego or whatever---you try to force me to do something and I will (in a

loving manner of course!)--politely tell you to go to hell.

>

> OK---not really! I will just smile and walk away. Maybe the evil ego will try

to encourage me to curse your mom and dad..

> .but I am doing better with that for the past few decades...

>

> Add this to the fact that I knew I was there for some unknown reason (other

than JOG) and what do you get? A bad feeling in front of JOG.

>

> I do believe the work is good.

> The helpers (all who come to pray) are truly doing God's work.

> All of the energy because of this put me in an 'altered state' where I felt

like I was walking 3 feet above the ground!

>

> When came in that night talking seriously about E.T.--

> I said: " God Help me! As crazy as it may sound--that is why I am here.

Something about the E.T.'s "

>

> I have posted about the E.T.'s for those just tuning in.

>

> For those that felt warmth and goodness from JOG---I'm sure it's because he

was your reason for traveling to Brazil.

>

> I would NEVER discredit your experience!

>

> I will NEVER regret that trip!

>

> I cherish it!

>

> God Bless You and the work at the Casa!

>

> Master Stephen Condrey

> Master Condrey's Martial Arts

> 1049 Fraley Street

> Salisbury, NC 28146

> phone: 704 279-6001

>

February 21, 2010

Thank you Sandra;

There are many aspects of this dream I can relate too--very many!

I respect John of God.

I suspect my own ego was reflected back on me by him---I told the group that I

believe that.

However--I never did like the statement " we often see in others what we dislike

in ourselves " .

I felt this was true in this case--though I don't really dislike my own ego--it

is a useful survival tool.

That statement can be used as a cop out and has been used by many to excuse

their bad behavior. But-such is life.

Yes, I felt energy in the stones at my garden.

Yes, martial arts has some rituals--but in my form I have eliminated ritual that

has no meaning or use.

I still believe that ritual is best for the less disciplined---and only a Master

can tell if the person is ready to drop some things.

I'm at the point in my spirituality to drop some ritual.

God understands why--maybe you will too?

I respect John of God and his work. I just didn't need his services. I was

called on another mission.

The world could use some more like John of God all around (not just in Brazil).

Someday this will be so. Spiritually advanced helping beginners will be the

norm--not the exception.

You will never offend me, Sandra.

I feel you are a powerful Vessel of God's Love--I bask in your warmth!

God Bless you-

I am honored to be in your dream!

:)

Stephen

-

caraleen98

Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:12 AM

Re: Some Impressions at John of God

by Stephen: Part II

Dear Stephen,

I would like you to read the dream I had of John of God before your visit, as

it was significant that there was a message for you in it. I see it as the

people that were waiting for you in the stone carvings. I don't know if you read

it before. I have copy/pasted it below. (message 60303)Since the dream I have

had visions of the carvings coming to life, and white light filling the temple.

The circle on the floor has also begun to rotate. I don't know why it is that

you would feature in my dream experiences.( Did you feel the energy that has

been gifted in your own Zen garden stones?)

About what you have written about John of God; thank you for your honesty.

Reading your impressions, I hope that I may give my own impressions. We often

see and feel in others what we dislike and most wish to deny in ourselves. This

is not the entire aspect of the person. We see and attack in others that which

we cannot face and accept in ourselves. I say this to you, but it is a learning

for me also. The rituals that disturb you; I am thinking that there is protocol

and ritual in martial arts too?

I can feel your resistance. John of God is a person with many aspects. As are

we all. This does not lessen his amazing gifts. To help with the suffering of

creatures you have to first be prepared to face and feel the suffering without

being engulfed and this is no easy thing.

I respect your perspective on experiences, and hope that you will respect

mine.

Love, Sandra

''Dear and friends,

(edited for space)Love, Sandra''

, " Master Condrey "

<mastercondrey wrote:

>

February 21, 2010

Stephen:

Thank you for your honesty and sharing. I love your skepticism. Over the top

comes to mind? And I am sure the cuter ones are closer- why not?? With power

comes privilege.

Just have to ask - did you receive surgery??

Wonder what the entities think of one who questions??

I am happy you met your family of old. It is good to make connections. The

trip indeed had a purpose for you.

My family here in the states over 70 cousins and my family in Italy over 70

cousins are finally getting together on Facebook. It will be interesting to see

how we relate. Many of us do not know one another yet there is a bond of

hundreds of years of blood and family.

I am excited to be reconnecting. And I feel your feelings of satisfaction of

knowing ancestors. As I age the family of old becomes more important to me and

especailly with the K - I know in my family there have been many with K - there

are some now with gifts of K.

love.e

February 21, 2010

Dear Sandra,

I remember reading your dream before we headed to Brazil. I often felt while at

the casa that many of you from KAS were with us in love and spirit. I see now

too that perhaps some of you went before us. I have no doubt you did Sandra.

Thank you.

Am I reading you correctly that you had further dreams about the casa and the

temple you saw in your first dream? It seems like you have a real connection to

the place.

Thank you for sharing your dream again.

You said in your post

" We often see and feel in others what we dislike and most wish to deny in

ourselves. "

Because of my own experience I would agree with you in that. when something

arises in me that I do not like about another it is really worth me sitting with

that and staying with the feelings and being open to seeing that perhaps this

person has in fact reflected myself back at me.

I believe that which is in front of us is our teacher so I try to pay attention

to such situations.

With reflection if I allow the time I find that yes what I did not like in the

other is indeed present in myself in some way, often very hidden and disguised

to myself by my dear friend ego.

Interestingly I have seen people behave in a " not ok " manner, but have not been

attached to their behaviour at all. When I do not feel a judgement in myself of

their behaviour then the chances are I do not have that behaviour manifesting in

myself.

I would like if more of that happened lol!

Love Julia.

, " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98 wrote:

>

February 22, 2010

Dear Julia,

I do feel a strong connection to the Casa. I don't fully understand why. I often

get visual flashes of the temple, and the carved figures have all been awakened,

and are alive and moving. They are real creatures. I find myself standing naked

on the rotating circle on the floor, and there is white light filling the

temple. I can feel energy and sound throbbing through my body.

Also I have had many dreams of the entities tending to me. I had dreams every

night during your visit until I found the pitbull; which was like a visit

entering and shattering my own physical reality. They are very caring and gentle

with me and I feel that they are always close to me.

Did you get a crystal for yourself to wear from the Casa?

Love, Sandra

, " Julia " <jajahern

wrote:

>

> Dear Sandra,

> I remember reading your dream before we headed to Brazil. I often felt while

at the casa that many of you from KAS were with us in love and spirit. I see

now too that perhaps some of you went before us. I have no doubt you did Sandra.

Thank you.

> Am I reading you correctly that you had further dreams about the casa and the

temple you saw in your first dream? It seems like you have a real connection to

the place.

> Thank you for sharing your dream again.

>

> You said in your post

> " We often see and feel in others what we dislike and most wish to deny in

ourselves. "

> Because of my own experience I would agree with you in that. when something

arises in me that I do not like about another it is really worth me sitting with

that and staying with the feelings and being open to seeing that perhaps this

person has in fact reflected myself back at me.

> I believe that which is in front of us is our teacher so I try to pay

attention to such situations.

> With reflection if I allow the time I find that yes what I did not like in the

other is indeed present in myself in some way, often very hidden and disguised

to myself by my dear friend ego.

> Interestingly I have seen people behave in a " not ok " manner, but have not

been attached to their behaviour at all. When I do not feel a judgement in

myself of their behaviour then the chances are I do not have that behaviour

manifesting in myself.

> I would like if more of that happened lol!

> Love Julia.

>

> , " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98@> wrote:

> >

>

February 23, 2010

Dear Sandra,

Your experiences of dreams and sounds and visions while we were in Brazil

reflects that you journeyed there too.

For me too, the experience of sound was given at the casa and at other areas in

Brazil. In a particular area outside of the casa the sound and vibration was so

strong I felt pulled like a magnet towards the energy which was an ET energy.

At the casa I experienced also a trobbing sound in my body and a trobbing sound

felt in the " space " around the casa..... yes sound was very much part of my

experience there. Another interesting experience re sound was the saying of the

rosary. (I do not say the rosary as I have past issues with it...lol..childhood

stuffs!) However the evening after I was directed to get up at 3am and say the

rosary I learned that the rosary was said at the casa. I was drawn to go and

check it out. The rosary was said in Portugeuse and said very very very slowly

and with great mindfullness. The sound that rose up from those speaking the

words in unison was of a frequency that matched and merged with the vibrations

present in the casa. I loved hearing that sound and being within that sound and

I went to listen with some of the group at 8pm most nights. (I also had some

stuffs revelaed to me there about my ego whcih was all good to learn.)Being

amoung those who practice this ritual and devotion was a blessing for me.

If we went back to Brazil again would there be any chance that you could come?

love Julia

, " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98 wrote:

>

> Dear Julia,

> I do feel a strong connection to the Casa. I don't fully understand why. I

often get visual flashes of the temple, and the carved figures have all been

awakened, and are alive and moving. They are real creatures. I find myself

standing naked on the rotating circle on the floor, and there is white light

filling the temple. I can feel energy and sound throbbing through my body.

> Also I have had many dreams of the entities tending to me. I had dreams every

night during your visit until I found the pitbull; which was like a visit

entering and shattering my own physical reality. They are very caring and gentle

with me and I feel that they are always close to me.

> Did you get a crystal for yourself to wear from the Casa?

> Love, Sandra

>

> , " Julia " <jajahern@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sandra,

> > I remember reading your dream before we headed to Brazil. I often felt

while at the casa that many of you from KAS were with us in love and spirit. I

see now too that perhaps some of you went before us. I have no doubt you did

Sandra. Thank you.

> > Am I reading you correctly that you had further dreams about the casa and

the temple you saw in your first dream? It seems like you have a real

connection to the place.

> > Thank you for sharing your dream again.

> >

> > You said in your post

> > " We often see and feel in others what we dislike and most wish to deny in

ourselves. "

> > Because of my own experience I would agree with you in that. when something

arises in me that I do not like about another it is really worth me sitting with

that and staying with the feelings and being open to seeing that perhaps this

person has in fact reflected myself back at me.

> > I believe that which is in front of us is our teacher so I try to pay

attention to such situations.

> > With reflection if I allow the time I find that yes what I did not like in

the other is indeed present in myself in some way, often very hidden and

disguised to myself by my dear friend ego.

> > Interestingly I have seen people behave in a " not ok " manner, but have not

been attached to their behaviour at all. When I do not feel a judgement in

myself of their behaviour then the chances are I do not have that behaviour

manifesting in myself.

> > I would like if more of that happened lol!

> > Love Julia.

> >

> > , " caraleen98 "

<caraleen98@> wrote:

> > >

> >

>

February 23, 2010

Dear Julia,

It would be wonderful to one day travel to Brazil, and to physically meet John

of God and the entities. (Though the entities are in no way restricted to their

'home place'.) Also I would love to meet you and the people on this forum.

Love, Sandra

, " Julia " <jajahern

wrote:

>

> Dear Sandra,

>

> Your experiences of dreams and sounds and visions while we were in Brazil

reflects that you journeyed there too.

> For me too, the experience of sound was given at the casa and at other areas

in Brazil. In a particular area outside of the casa the sound and vibration was

so strong I felt pulled like a magnet towards the energy which was an ET energy.