Phenomana and Daily Living and the Christian Experience

February 26, 2010

Dear Julia, Linda and those having questions regarding phenomena, daily life and

the Christian experience:

Julia, I appreciated your response regarding bliss and how you manage it in

regard to your daily life. I haven't posted about the phenomena I experienced

with my initial k experience and HOW they impacted my life, but that is how and

why I had to pull back from the k journey in order to function.

My initial k experience occurred 10/14/93 at a time when I had a business with

18 or 19 employees, I cared for my mother, which involved paying her bills,

making all decisions for her,financial and otherwise, and doing all her

errands. At the same time, my husband was having several surgeries and

hospitalizations, and our diabetic son lost consciousness while driving and

totaled his 1971 El Camino by running into a parked car. Fortunately, he was

not hurt, and no one else was hurt either, though his car traveled across a

street before hitting the parked car. ( Can anyone say " angels watching over

me?! I was also managing my deceased father's testamentary trust of which my

mother was the beneficiary, and this involved a lot of paperwork and tax forms

due to the involvement of income property. So I did have my hands full.

During this very demanding time, my relationship with Christ was what helped me

cope. At that time I was very involved with a Baptist church, also acting as a

lay counselor (after 2 years training) and volunteering 8 hours a week dealing

with families and as a facilitator of a women's' support group which met once a

week. But my spiritual reading was on the early Catholic writers and saints. I

was praying and reading a book titled " Interior Castle " by St. Teresa of

Avila, when my initial K experience occurred that evening in 1993.

Besides the powerful surge of energy up my spine which exploded in my brain and

showered ecstasy down my entire body, it felt as if my head expanded to

encompass all creation, and my body felt as if it was dissolving. And then

there was Silence and the sense that " I " was no more, and there was only

Beingness......

I continued to have these kind of experiences when I prayed and within me

developed an intense longing for more and more of God's presence and more and

more wanting to give myself to Him. I won't elaborate on the other phenoma that

I experienced, but they lead me to long for a life of total renunciation of my

time and being to follow this journey to what I knew the conclusion would be for

me: the absorption of my personal self into God as Beingness.

So, Julia, in answer to your question, as to what I would do with my life if I

felt the freedom to do it: Assuming I had completed the significant tasks of

this life and my responsibilities to those I love who depend on me: I would

spend the rest of my days in intense prayer and meditation in hope that the

experience of Beingness I had during the OBE at age 3 and again on 10/14/93 and

thereafter, would consume my personal self and that there would be only

Beingness in existance, and the end of a journey of the

personal self.

Enough said. I welcome your responses, Julia, Linda and any others who care to

respond.

Love and Peace

Diane

February 27, 2010

Dear Diane and all,

Thank you for sharing further, it is so lovely to read and to be given insight

into the journey of another. when you spoke about how you would live your life

if you felt the freedom to do it, I tasted your longing to be in that place of

prayer and meditation... being consumed into the oneness of God.

I hope it is ok to converse like I am going to do ( I like when people converse

like this with me) but if you do not want to respond to questions please just

tell me as I do not want in any way to offend you.

I am wondering if you think this freedom will come in this lifetime?

will you be able to complete those significant tasks and responsibilities to

your family and allow the longing that is within to become reality? I just get

the feeling that these two " Lives " are mutually exclusive and that you may never

be able to surrender fully to the beingness you seek. Saddness and tears rise

up when that thought came to me.

If you think that the surrender of which you speak is not possible for you in

this lifetime, would it be possible for you to go like Christ to the Desert as

it were, and spend 40 days and nights in contemplation prayer and meditation and

experience beingnes and the end of the journey of personal self....yes for a

limited time in the greater scheme of things but for a decent amount of time in

the linear world in which we live? Returning after the 40 days to your

responsibilites and duty and service.

Am I way off here Diane or could you experience you heart and soul desire during

a few weeks spent on your own. Would this sort of opportunity for you be worth

negotiating and organising on your own behalf? Or would what I suggest make it

too dificult and painful for you to return to the tasks that are not yet

compleated?

Please feel no pressure to actually answer this here on the forum Diane... these

thoughts and feelings came up for me as I read you post and to not write it I

think would be to be not real with you.

Love Julia

, Diane Baugh

<cdgbdronningen wrote:

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> Dear Julia, Linda and those having questions regarding phenomena, daily life

and the Christian experience:

>

> Julia, I appreciated your response regarding bliss and how you manage it in

regard to your daily life. I haven't posted about the phenomena I experienced

with my initial k experience and HOW they impacted my life, but that is how and

why I had to pull back from the k journey in order to function.

>

> My initial k experience occurred 10/14/93 at a time when I had a business with