Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I've been in the group for about 3 months but this will be my first Shaktipat.... I had a few questions - I know is off-Continent and has limited internet access, but if anyone can assist that would be much appreciated - I've read through everything (I think) on the regular website. 1. What can I do to maximize the (first) shaktipat? I've read again and again about how you can't go-back and redo the first spinal sweep. I've read the prep-list and am doing the safeties. It seems like there's a lot of other prep work you could do - like even getting your specific colored clothes in order so you're not scrambling on day 2 with the holy-cow I don't own anything orange! routine etc. Any thoughts? I just started doing the Tibetans 2x per day -- seems like the right thing to do in prep. This is my biggest thing - I just want to get K active with as strong a foundation as possible. 2. If K is the energy inside us, why do people need to get Shaktipat a second time? I mean this question in terms of trying to understand what I can do to evolve as efficiently as possible, which seems much the point here. 3. I can not do the 3 day fast for health reasons. Is it an all-or-nothing deal? Or does minimizing solid food intake have a similar but lesser effect? Do some foods have lesser negative/greater positive impact if eaten during the (otherwise) fasting period? If it is all-or-nothing, is there some proxy for fasting? 4. I am somewhat concerned about being utterly underwhelmed. I've read enough here, and am in touch enough with Reality, that I can objectively look at myself and say I'm being irrational, but the concern lingers. Can anyone help me address this? I am not fishing for an experience. I am looking for the kind of permanent, ever-intensifying growth that describes repeatedly. I feel like this emotion of doubt is functioning as a safety-valve that creates a self-fulfilling prescription, kinda like an alternative pathway that will just allow the shaktipat to go right around me in part. Not quite sure where this is coming from. Any thoughts? I'd like to get rid of this doubt as I feel it is compromising my ability to receive with the sort of child-like wonder that clearly is requisite to K. 5. I have been seeing recurring images of snakes, but no other K- related images. Interestingly, I've had this repeating image of the medical-symbol, but where the staff is replaced with a sword pointing up, with snakes twisting around it. I've also had images of my body getting cut up. Kinda weird, but for a while the repeating image was my beard getting chopped off -- I don't know how many can relate, but there's A HUGE amount of spiritual energy flowing through a man's beard -- NOT a pleasant image to see it get hacked off. Any ideas? Is these good images or bad? Any interpretations? Any further tips on how to get better prepped for the equinox would be appreciated. Thanks! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/shaktipat.html Go to the site above and read it over a few times... Follow the safeties protocols daily and incorporate these into your daily life. I suggest you not dwell on phenomena - surrender to what will be given and know that you will receive that which you are able to receive and this will be based on your practice of the safeties. Shakti will determine the when and how and how much- your task is to prepare your body for the gift. Colors are not necessary they serve as a reminder only ... Fasting is not necessary it is a way to prepare the body but one does not have to fast. Shaktipats are not necessary - they are a gift given thru chrism from Shakti and the reason one participates multiple times is that the gift gives one greater energy if one is ready to receive it. Again if one is ready to receive it - Shaktipat was overwhelming to me also at the start now I just accept it as a beautiful gift. No worries as chrism is apt to say. The cutting up can be the dismemberment occurrence that comes some where down the path - you can read on it on the main site - this is a fear test and a means to show the body is being worked on - So Jeffrey- I suggest you place all your concerns and worries in the hands of Shakti and follow the protocols to enjoy a Wonderful Shaktipat- it does not hurt by the way - some will receive an abundance of energy if they are able to handle it others will receive a small amount. Also read on the Scatterfield that is what governs how much you will receive by measuring your practice - Clear as mud YES??? Again - no worries - read and surrender and welcome to your new family of K interested and active folks - forget about all the bells and whistles - concentrate on your practice - that is what will give you the best Shaktipat in town - I am sure others will send you notes - always ask any ?'s Blessings e , " Jeffrey " <getjeff1 wrote: > > > > I've been in the group for about 3 months but this will be my first Shaktipat.... I had a few questions - I know is off-Continent and has limited internet access, but if anyone can assist that would be much appreciated - I've read through everything (I think) on the regular website. > > 1. What can I do to maximize the (first) shaktipat? I've read again and again about how you can't go-back and redo the first spinal sweep. I've read the prep-list and am doing the safeties. It seems like there's a lot of other prep work you could do - like even getting your specific colored clothes in order so you're not scrambling on day 2 with the holy-cow I don't own anything orange! routine etc. Any thoughts? I just started doing the Tibetans 2x per day -- seems like the right thing to do in prep. This is my biggest thing - I just want to get K active with as strong a foundation as possible. > > 2. If K is the energy inside us, why do people need to get Shaktipat a second time? I mean this question in terms of trying to understand what I can do to evolve as efficiently as possible, which seems much the point here. > > 3. I can not do the 3 day fast for health reasons. Is it an all-or-nothing deal? Or does minimizing solid food intake have a similar but lesser effect? Do some foods have lesser negative/greater positive impact if eaten during the (otherwise) fasting period? If it is all-or-nothing, is there some proxy for fasting? > > 4. I am somewhat concerned about being utterly underwhelmed. I've read enough here, and am in touch enough with Reality, that I can objectively look at myself and say I'm being irrational, but the concern lingers. Can anyone help me address this? I am not fishing for an experience. I am looking for the kind of permanent, ever-intensifying growth that describes repeatedly. I feel like this emotion of doubt is functioning as a safety-valve that creates a self-fulfilling prescription, kinda like an alternative pathway that will just allow the shaktipat to go right around me in part. Not quite sure where this is coming from. Any thoughts? I'd like to get rid of this doubt as I feel it is compromising my ability to receive with the sort of child-like wonder that clearly is requisite to K. > > 5. I have been seeing recurring images of snakes, but no other K- related images. Interestingly, I've had this repeating image of the medical-symbol, but where the staff is replaced with a sword pointing up, with snakes twisting around it. I've also had images of my body getting cut up. Kinda weird, but for a while the repeating image was my beard getting chopped off -- I don't know how many can relate, but there's A HUGE amount of spiritual energy flowing through a man's beard -- NOT a pleasant image to see it get hacked off. Any ideas? Is these good images or bad? Any interpretations? > > > Any further tips on how to get better prepped for the equinox would be appreciated. Thanks! > > Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi Jeff, If you do not own anything oragne there is no need to go and buy that colour. On that day you could carry an eating orange around with you to remind you of the day that it is! Love Julia. , " Jeffrey " <getjeff1 wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Jeffrey, Take the advice of the more advanced k active people here. I share your desire for drastic change. Only when you have surrendered to what shakti will give to you will you understand what this is all about. I selfishly pray for a fast awakening because I think the changes it will bring can make me a better person, but the reality is that only through my " good behavior " , ie. the safeties and trying like hell to demonstrate the qualities that I hold dear will I ever see any change in myself. Much care, love and hope for you, Jeffrey P.s. I hope you can see that I am only writing from a loving place. I am personally going through a very tough time, and maybe those circumstances color my responses. ________________________________ Jeffrey <getjeff1 Mon, March 1, 2010 10:20:43 PM 1st timer I've been in the group for about 3 months but this will be my first Shaktipat... .. I had a few questions - I know is off-Continent and has limited internet access, but if anyone can assist that would be much appreciated - I've read through everything (I think) on the regular website. 1. What can I do to maximize the (first) shaktipat? I've read again and again about how you can't go-back and redo the first spinal sweep. I've read the prep-list and am doing the safeties. It seems like there's a lot of other prep work you could do - like even getting your specific colored clothes in order so you're not scrambling on day 2 with the holy-cow I don't own anything orange! routine etc. Any thoughts? I just started doing the Tibetans 2x per day -- seems like the right thing to do in prep. This is my biggest thing - I just want to get K active with as strong a foundation as possible. 2. If K is the energy inside us, why do people need to get Shaktipat a second time? I mean this question in terms of trying to understand what I can do to evolve as efficiently as possible, which seems much the point here. 3. I can not do the 3 day fast for health reasons. Is it an all-or-nothing deal? Or does minimizing solid food intake have a similar but lesser effect? Do some foods have lesser negative/greater positive impact if eaten during the (otherwise) fasting period? If it is all-or-nothing, is there some proxy for fasting? 4. I am somewhat concerned about being utterly underwhelmed. I've read enough here, and am in touch enough with Reality, that I can objectively look at myself and say I'm being irrational, but the concern lingers. Can anyone help me address this? I am not fishing for an experience. I am looking for the kind of permanent, ever-intensifying growth that describes repeatedly. I feel like this emotion of doubt is functioning as a safety-valve that creates a self-fulfilling prescription, kinda like an alternative pathway that will just allow the shaktipat to go right around me in part. Not quite sure where this is coming from. Any thoughts? I'd like to get rid of this doubt as I feel it is compromising my ability to receive with the sort of child-like wonder that clearly is requisite to K. 5. I have been seeing recurring images of snakes, but no other K- related images. Interestingly, I've had this repeating image of the medical-symbol, but where the staff is replaced with a sword pointing up, with snakes twisting around it. I've also had images of my body getting cut up. Kinda weird, but for a while the repeating image was my beard getting chopped off -- I don't know how many can relate, but there's A HUGE amount of spiritual energy flowing through a man's beard -- NOT a pleasant image to see it get hacked off. Any ideas? Is these good images or bad? Any interpretations? Any further tips on how to get better prepped for the equinox would be appreciated. Thanks! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dear Jeffrey, I have had Shaktipat from our teacher Chrism.It is a smooth process.Do not fear or be worried.Do not be conditioned by fearful experiences of others, like Gopikrishna etc. Your experiences will be your own and Unique. You are in safe hands of the Master Chrism............shrikant ________________________________ scott perkins <scottmushman @yar ahoogroups.com Wed, 3 March, 2010 2:48:13 AM Re: 1st timer  Jeffrey, Take the advice of the more advanced k active people here. I share your desire for drastic change. Only when you have surrendered to what shakti will give to you will you understand what this is all about. I selfishly pray for a fast awakening because I think the changes it will bring can make me a better person, but the reality is that only through my " good behavior " , ie. the safeties and trying like hell to demonstrate the qualities that I hold dear will I ever see any change in myself. Much care, love and hope for you, Jeffrey P.s. I hope you can see that I am only writing from a loving place. I am personally going through a very tough time, and maybe those circumstances color my responses. ____________ _________ _________ __ Jeffrey <getjeff1 > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Mon, March 1, 2010 10:20:43 PM [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] 1st timer I've been in the group for about 3 months but this will be my first Shaktipat... .. I had a few questions - I know is off-Continent and has limited internet access, but if anyone can assist that would be much appreciated - I've read through everything (I think) on the regular website. 1. What can I do to maximize the (first) shaktipat? I've read again and again about how you can't go-back and redo the first spinal sweep. I've read the prep-list and am doing the safeties. It seems like there's a lot of other prep work you could do - like even getting your specific colored clothes in order so you're not scrambling on day 2 with the holy-cow I don't own anything orange! routine etc. Any thoughts? I just started doing the Tibetans 2x per day -- seems like the right thing to do in prep. This is my biggest thing - I just want to get K active with as strong a foundation as possible. 2. If K is the energy inside us, why do people need to get Shaktipat a second time? I mean this question in terms of trying to understand what I can do to evolve as efficiently as possible, which seems much the point here. 3. I can not do the 3 day fast for health reasons. Is it an all-or-nothing deal? Or does minimizing solid food intake have a similar but lesser effect? Do some foods have lesser negative/greater positive impact if eaten during the (otherwise) fasting period? If it is all-or-nothing, is there some proxy for fasting? 4. I am somewhat concerned about being utterly underwhelmed. I've read enough here, and am in touch enough with Reality, that I can objectively look at myself and say I'm being irrational, but the concern lingers. Can anyone help me address this? I am not fishing for an experience. I am looking for the kind of permanent, ever-intensifying growth that describes repeatedly. I feel like this emotion of doubt is functioning as a safety-valve that creates a self-fulfilling prescription, kinda like an alternative pathway that will just allow the shaktipat to go right around me in part. Not quite sure where this is coming from. Any thoughts? I'd like to get rid of this doubt as I feel it is compromising my ability to receive with the sort of child-like wonder that clearly is requisite to K. 5. I have been seeing recurring images of snakes, but no other K- related images. Interestingly, I've had this repeating image of the medical-symbol, but where the staff is replaced with a sword pointing up, with snakes twisting around it. I've also had images of my body getting cut up. Kinda weird, but for a while the repeating image was my beard getting chopped off -- I don't know how many can relate, but there's A HUGE amount of spiritual energy flowing through a man's beard -- NOT a pleasant image to see it get hacked off. Any ideas? Is these good images or bad? Any interpretations? Any further tips on how to get better prepped for the equinox would be appreciated. Thanks! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dear Shrikant, Thank you for your message - In so far as I am " fearful " it is more out of awe of what K is, the essential godliness in Creation. Although I am not (yet!) K active, I am in a sense so clear on K's profundity, to a certain degree from past-life memory/awareness, that my concern is more about being left out of that profundity than being overwhelmed by it. I have been reading the bad-experience stories of K on the internet (no shortage!) and (as an outsider) it seems Chrism is right-on that bad experiences are more from lack of surrender than from K itself. Kinda like jumping in a river in flood - you either keep your feet downstream and go with the flow, or sink. As someone who is still on the riverbank, it seems the fear aspect likely comes from shock at just how real, intense, and godly the K actually is. I have never been to an ashram or met a K-active person in person, but somehow I " know " what it is, at least in terms of recognizing K as the truest response to man's yearning for G-dliness and existential completion. I am extremely grateful to have found and this group. Thanks again. Jeff , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Jeffrey, > > I have had Shaktipat from our teacher Chrism.It is a smooth process.Do not fear or be worried.Do not be conditioned by fearful experiences of others, like Gopikrishna etc. Your experiences will be your own and Unique. > You are in safe hands of the Master Chrism............shrikant > > > > > ________________________________ > scott perkins <scottmushman > @yar ahoogroups.com > Wed, 3 March, 2010 2:48:13 AM > Re: 1st timer > > Â > Jeffrey, > > Take the advice of the more advanced k active people here. I share your desire for drastic change. Only when you have surrendered to what shakti will give to you will you understand what this is all about. I selfishly pray for a fast awakening because I think the changes it will bring can make me a better person, but the reality is that only through my " good behavior " , ie. the safeties and trying like hell to demonstrate the qualities that I hold dear will I ever see any change in myself. > > Much care, love and hope for you, Jeffrey > > P.s. I hope you can see that I am only writing from a loving place. I am personally going through a very tough time, and maybe those circumstances color my responses. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Jeffrey <getjeff1 > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:20:43 PM > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] 1st timer > > I've been in the group for about 3 months but this will be my first Shaktipat... . I had a few questions - I know is off-Continent and has limited internet access, but if anyone can assist that would be much appreciated - I've read through everything (I think) on the regular website. > > 1. What can I do to maximize the (first) shaktipat? I've read again and again about how you can't go-back and redo the first spinal sweep. I've read the prep-list and am doing the safeties. It seems like there's a lot of other prep work you could do - like even getting your specific colored clothes in order so you're not scrambling on day 2 with the holy-cow I don't own anything orange! routine etc. Any thoughts? I just started doing the Tibetans 2x per day -- seems like the right thing to do in prep. This is my biggest thing - I just want to get K active with as strong a foundation as possible. > > 2. If K is the energy inside us, why do people need to get Shaktipat a second time? I mean this question in terms of trying to understand what I can do to evolve as efficiently as possible, which seems much the point here. > > 3. I can not do the 3 day fast for health reasons. Is it an all-or-nothing deal? Or does minimizing solid food intake have a similar but lesser effect? Do some foods have lesser negative/greater positive impact if eaten during the (otherwise) fasting period? If it is all-or-nothing, is there some proxy for fasting? > > 4. I am somewhat concerned about being utterly underwhelmed. I've read enough here, and am in touch enough with Reality, that I can objectively look at myself and say I'm being irrational, but the concern lingers. Can anyone help me address this? I am not fishing for an experience. I am looking for the kind of permanent, ever-intensifying growth that describes repeatedly. I feel like this emotion of doubt is functioning as a safety-valve that creates a self-fulfilling prescription, kinda like an alternative pathway that will just allow the shaktipat to go right around me in part. Not quite sure where this is coming from. Any thoughts? I'd like to get rid of this doubt as I feel it is compromising my ability to receive with the sort of child-like wonder that clearly is requisite to K. > > 5. I have been seeing recurring images of snakes, but no other K- related images. Interestingly, I've had this repeating image of the medical-symbol, but where the staff is replaced with a sword pointing up, with snakes twisting around it. I've also had images of my body getting cut up. Kinda weird, but for a while the repeating image was my beard getting chopped off -- I don't know how many can relate, but there's A HUGE amount of spiritual energy flowing through a man's beard -- NOT a pleasant image to see it get hacked off. Any ideas? Is these good images or bad? Any interpretations? > > Any further tips on how to get better prepped for the equinox would be appreciated. Thanks! > > Jeff > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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