Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 greetings travelers in and out of time, may this be to us all a BLISS-full Sun-day, om sri ravi van namaha! thanks to you all whom i learn so much from by reading your posts. i feel my spiritual progress is speeding up through exposure to your thoughts truly wonderful, you all are ! i'm writing from the inspiration i have after seeing laura's recent post on the horoscope and sun sign. hora shastra is science of soul through experience within dimension of time, and yoga is the science of directing the soul out of darkness/ignorance into the light..what little insight i can offer to others i will do so freely and joyfully, all i require to be of service to any of interest is date/time/location of birth (all things are thrice compounded). first i wish to state i harbor no intent to exert any thoughts of superiority over the teachings of master Chrism. in fact it is impossible to think astrology can replace any guru's insights or ones own intuition ! rather it objectively supplements intuition, until one has full intuition (connection established with divine/self). thus its practical usefulness is to confirm what intuition suggests, and to aide greater clarity on subjects intuition has not yet been placed upon. both yoga and astrology will cosmolize the being, both literally and symbolically ! it is taught to take the lower 6 chakras (soul memory track and energy to mass to energy converters) which are in duality (6X2=12) and look at it as a mirror. as above we have 12 on the ring of the zodiac, as below we have our own zoo/beast within. these chakras within are warehouses of karma (physical subtle particles of energy/memories wanting to live again) which are angular/will release/are not pure/desires/urges/proclivities/personality. to return each chakra to center/bindu/non angularity/straight and narrow/sushumana is how a virtue is attained, how to become a living saint in religious terms, how to more rapidly direct kundalini-shatki upwards. if you are following the safties you've pretty much got it covered ! astrology is a science of wisdom, yet is incapeable of replacing guru or kundalini. i suggest use any nickle and dime which assists in the attainment of health (the 3 om's..especially omniscience). after 'all', self sustained independence, balanced self awareness, living kaivalya, cosmic consciousness is the immediate goal/peak/loka/state to begin to attain. AAAAAHHHHHHhhhhhhhoooommmmmmnnnnn thank you kundalini and master and others whom are involutionarily speeding up our evolution !!! astrology primarily works thus, through the sub & un-conscious minds (whether believed or not ! ), yet karma in grandest sense of cause and effect, is both literal and symbolic. as such one can 'overcome and through the sun, go out no more', attain the fully satisfied and non-desirous/angular state. this is what the soul yearns for and will again and again until soul satisfaction is attained (eternal quest idea of brother paramahamsa). attain shiva-shatki union/1 K petal lotus/etc.....the beautiful thing is karma is negotiable IF one is aware of what is coming/destined/slated, AND one has a technique with which to anti-dote the inharmonious (or hopefully accentuate the harmonious !)....the trick is it can be done SYMBOLICALLY (usefulness of ritual here will depend on ones awareness=aka free will-power). this is a great secret to neutralization in the hands of a master. quickly let me elaborate on one simple point, the sun sign. the sun in ones chart reflects first a sign which indicates the average karma/path of the past 6 lives (chakras collecting and working out karma). example, i'm sagittarius thus the past 6 lives have been dealing with that segment (ruled by jupiter) thus expresses by sub conscious nature the svadhishtthana chakra most EASIEST....this karma will manifest through the house the sun resides in (in my case 8th house), thus reflects what the soul requires to feel like is on right path in life....so many do not know what they want in life ! without a goal, the chakric system will malfunction. gotta' get things straight ! one of the fastest ways to know/intuit is simply to eliminate emotionality, not as in be sterile, but to not react without the higher mind quelling the spewing of karmas/chakras pre-programmed reactions. the real karma is not what happens, but our RESPONSE to events/etc. THIS is the real karma for it lays it again upon our chakric universe...creations beget creations...effects beget effects....there is really very very very little genuine-origin-ality or pure creativity or free will in most people.....have compassion on others and self ! we are all doing the best we can with what we have under each eternal flowing impermanent moment of now. the practical values of astrology are numerous...one can look for the task master chakra, the one part of self which is most inharmonious, most unbalanced. the reason is simple, to fix this one wheel of our vehicle FIRST dramatically eases the ride, speeds up the process of attaining THAT which is otherwise so hard to overcome, especially when its our blind spot (greatest region of self ignorance....must know thy self! ) i'm 'running' out of time, as we all are...but, isn't that the idea? time is duality, its separation and distance...return to innocence! the pure ! the genuine and of origin ! be causal ! take control ! gain greater awareness of all ! how many docs really know the caduceus? much less genuine experience of kundalini ! how many docs know meaning of 'patient' is 'to suffer'? who is here to help you if you can't ?? we must help ourselves past a certain point, yet until then bless those whom help others, better yet be of assistance to others and bring to others good karma ! be of service ! i personally feel such elation when serving...service to me is the greatest profess-ion...bless the mothers and fathers of us all, everywhere ! (honor mother and father ie honor shiva-sun and shatki-moon) feed the greater self, we are all one, one in all, we are just skizzemed and can't see the holy whole picture all the time. i am you. my words are now in you and thus in your memory...memory is immutable, even if its not remembered ! remember ! re-member and assemble. wishing all ananda and samtosha !!! tim (the sun jupiter karma sag swami pratyadrananda=bliss through respect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 NOTE FROM chrism dictated to e Dear rockanandadad: Blessings and beauty to you my dear friend. Your offerings and gifts of service are much appreciated and blessings for offering them. In the context of what you write - there is no replacement for Kundalini and teacher and Kundalini intuition. Let us then , without distraction, open to that inner voice that inner Divine that is so obviously infusing you. Blessings to the Kundalini within you rockanandadad. If you feel that astrology holds value for Kundalini understanding then what a welcome gift your skills are to this group. We would enjoy hearing the Kundalini perspectives within such renderings. The focus of this group is the Kundalini and your gifts within that context are so very very much appreciated. Blessings love and light to you rockanandadad chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 , " " . wrote: > > NOTE FROM chrism dictated to e > > In the context of what you write - there is no replacement for Kundalini and teacher and Kundalini intuition. Let us then , without distraction, open to that inner voice that inner Divine that is so obviously infusing you. Blessings to the Kundalini within you rockanandadad. namaste to all and master chrism ! my immediate inturning tells me there is no substitute for the divine and divine intervention be it through ones own kundalini or others while in flesh. none is more original nor more holy. with this in mind and through the safties/virtues particularly through surrender, one may not have fear of mundane issues such as sickness or proclivities therein, or fear of seperation/loss. intuition will most definately serve as the bridge to the divine and be ones best guide. one will know through consistancy of yoga/union when to, and when not to (anything). with this in mind, there are no divine points to be made for astrology within the context of a fully awakened being in flesh ! self-less service within the totality becomes automatically righteous, yes? obviously i am not there yet ! so now i wonder, does buddha or any saint/guru/etc. whom have left this solar systems karma or even galaxies karma or perhaps grander leaves gods/cosmic karma/body become more like a brother/sister to god? is this thought permissable? i do not have intuitive direction nor has to my knowledge within my soul, any understanding of the levels (?seven, but not talking chakras here) by which kundalini evolves 'itself' with the individual monad in it, other than the didactic teachings of the multitudes of karunic levels of compassion above the thousand petaled lotus. yet forgive me, on practical level, i question that perhaps astrology (perhaps not my eyes) might have been able to have seen ahead of your recent trip that you would have had some misplaced baggage? its merely a thought that perhaps in such a scenario, loss may have been avoided if, objectively seen? i must contenplate this much more carefully, before speaking further. much GFA action occuring and i must now go within and return to center as i enter the lunar aspect of this marvelous sun-day ! om mani padmi om........ tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Rockanandadad Namaste, I am confused about your sun sign astrology. Vedic Astrology goes by the moon, not the sun and the 1st house is neither of those, it is called Asendant or Lagna. So, are you mixing western and Vedic or you are just going by western? Thanks for clarifying. Blissfully, Pamela , " rockanandadad " <rockanandadad wrote: > > greetings travelers in and out of time, > > may this be to us all a BLISS-full Sun-day, om sri ravi van namaha! thanks to you all whom i learn so much from by reading your posts. i feel my spiritual progress is speeding up through exposure to your thoughts truly wonderful, you all are ! > > i'm writing from the inspiration i have after seeing laura's recent post on the horoscope and sun sign. hora shastra is science of soul through experience within dimension of time, and yoga is the science of directing the soul out of darkness/ignorance into the light..what little insight i can offer to others i will do so freely and joyfully, all i require to be of service to any of interest is date/time/location of birth (all things are thrice compounded). > > first i wish to state i harbor no intent to exert any thoughts of superiority over the teachings of master Chrism. in fact it is impossible to think astrology can replace any guru's insights or ones own intuition ! rather it objectively supplements intuition, until one has full intuition (connection established with divine/self). thus its practical usefulness is to confirm what intuition suggests, and to aide greater clarity on subjects intuition has not yet been placed upon. > > both yoga and astrology will cosmolize the being, both literally and symbolically ! it is taught to take the lower 6 chakras (soul memory track and energy to mass to energy converters) which are in duality (6X2=12) and look at it as a mirror. as above we have 12 on the ring of the zodiac, as below we have our own zoo/beast within. these chakras within are warehouses of karma (physical subtle particles of energy/memories wanting to live again) which are angular/will release/are not pure/desires/urges/proclivities/personality. to return each chakra to center/bindu/non angularity/straight and narrow/sushumana is how a virtue is attained, how to become a living saint in religious terms, how to more rapidly direct kundalini-shatki upwards. if you are following the safties you've pretty much got it covered ! > astrology is a science of wisdom, yet is incapeable of replacing guru or kundalini. i suggest use any nickle and dime which assists in the attainment of health (the 3 om's..especially omniscience). after 'all', self sustained independence, balanced self awareness, living kaivalya, cosmic consciousness is the immediate goal/peak/loka/state to begin to attain. AAAAAHHHHHHhhhhhhhoooommmmmmnnnnn thank you kundalini and master and others whom are involutionarily speeding up our evolution !!! > > astrology primarily works thus, through the sub & un-conscious minds (whether believed or not ! ), yet karma in grandest sense of cause and effect, is both literal and symbolic. as such one can 'overcome and through the sun, go out no more', attain the fully satisfied and non-desirous/angular state. this is what the soul yearns for and will again and again until soul satisfaction is attained (eternal quest idea of brother paramahamsa). attain shiva-shatki union/1 K petal lotus/etc.....the beautiful thing is karma is negotiable IF one is aware of what is coming/destined/slated, AND one has a technique with which to anti-dote the inharmonious (or hopefully accentuate the harmonious !)....the trick is it can be done SYMBOLICALLY (usefulness of ritual here will depend on ones awareness=aka free will-power). this is a great secret to neutralization in the hands of a master. > > quickly let me elaborate on one simple point, the sun sign. the sun in ones chart reflects first a sign which indicates the average karma/path of the past 6 lives (chakras collecting and working out karma). example, i'm sagittarius thus the past 6 lives have been dealing with that segment (ruled by jupiter) thus expresses by sub conscious nature the svadhishtthana chakra most EASIEST....this karma will manifest through the house the sun resides in (in my case 8th house), thus reflects what the soul requires to feel like is on right path in life....so many do not know what they want in life ! without a goal, the chakric system will malfunction. gotta' get things straight ! one of the fastest ways to know/intuit is simply to eliminate emotionality, not as in be sterile, but to not react without the higher mind quelling the spewing of karmas/chakras pre-programmed reactions. the real karma is not what happens, but our RESPONSE to events/etc. THIS is the real karma for it lays it again upon our chakric universe...creations beget creations...effects beget effects....there is really very very very little genuine-origin-ality or pure creativity or free will in most people.....have compassion on others and self ! we are all doing the best we can with what we have under each eternal flowing impermanent moment of now. > > the practical values of astrology are numerous...one can look for the task master chakra, the one part of self which is most inharmonious, most unbalanced. the reason is simple, to fix this one wheel of our vehicle FIRST dramatically eases the ride, speeds up the process of attaining THAT which is otherwise so hard to overcome, especially when its our blind spot (greatest region of self ignorance....must know thy self! ) > > i'm 'running' out of time, as we all are...but, isn't that the idea? time is duality, its separation and distance...return to innocence! the pure ! the genuine and of origin ! be causal ! take control ! gain greater awareness of all ! > > how many docs really know the caduceus? much less genuine experience of kundalini ! > how many docs know meaning of 'patient' is 'to suffer'? > who is here to help you if you can't ?? > we must help ourselves past a certain point, yet until then bless those whom help others, better yet be of assistance to others and bring to others good karma ! be of service ! > > i personally feel such elation when serving...service to me is the greatest profess-ion...bless the mothers and fathers of us all, everywhere ! (honor mother and father ie honor shiva-sun and shatki-moon) > feed the greater self, we are all one, one in all, we are just skizzemed and can't see the holy whole picture all the time. i am you. my words are now in you and thus in your memory...memory is immutable, even if its not remembered ! remember ! re-member and assemble. > > wishing all ananda and samtosha !!! > tim (the sun jupiter karma sag swami pratyadrananda=bliss through respect) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 > NOTE FROM chrism dictated to e > > Dear rockanandadad: > Let us then , without distraction, open to that inner voice that inner Divine that is so obviously infusing you. > We would enjoy hearing the Kundalini perspectives within such renderings. > chrism tim's response to above= Reparations master ! Indeed tonight's at-one-ment contemplation on the value of astrology specific to kundalini first showed me that we already know its value based upon the shatipat's timing with the equinox. If we then are using the natural cycles to expedite the positive, can we then always clearly see what likely negative cycles are to be avoided? i can't, i admit it, at least rationally, and without intuition being backed objectively with astrology. Also, the cycles of the moon are classic examples to explain increases in mother/moon/idic nadi's flow as well as kundalini. Herein we can see from astrology, that although the moon will move swiftly through the signs in the firmament/mazzaroth/zodiac/sky, its effects within each of us will be unique as the individuals nativity (birth chart) shows where the moon in sky will be traversing within our own inner-verse. Through the techniques of astrology and yoga the body is cosmolized , each chakra is thus equivalent to a planet, and each of the chakras two hemispheres are assigned a sign. We are talking cycles within cycles here. Literally the moon in sky is in sagittarius thus will mystically be moving through each of our sagittarian (masculine or pingalic or right side) segment of jupiter (ruler of sagittarian) chakra known as water chakra or svadhishthana. Each planet is thus moving through the monads' hemispheres via ida/pingala in this manner. Yet each will have intrinsic proclivities towards its specific effects despite kundalini having risen and burned/roasted/attenuated the karmic seeds within the petals/hemispheres of each chakra/planet. This is why/how we are still affected by our outer world. The planets are our oversouls in this manner, they are the rulers or lords of karma in this sense (not just of our tiny bodies/minds). Hence, we each have specifics within that can be easily discerned. Karma is not so easy to overcome even if we have the thought that we are exceptions because we have kundalini. Did not the lord Jesus show this by `give unto caesar what belongs to caesar, and to God what is to God? Is not president obama also an oversoul? for his chart (countries chart) effects us in similar cycles within cycles. Perhaps Jesus spoke his last words in a similar manner regarding being forsaken, perhaps it was an event predestined or overcome by karma? Ohh, i now stray into hot waters by saying such? Forgive me if i offend any ! Did not chi kung/taoist temples fall due to firearms? its good to know when to duck even if are realized divinity, particularly when the lesser enlightened masses are involved. i am now reminded to share with you (?Glenn Morris here with me now?) that on the night in my somewhat desperate state to get more specific help with my own cranial and throat pressure issues i turned to the internet to look up glenn whom several years prior shared valuable insights as to what i was re-entering when my experience of head drilling occurred (kundalini returning from original teen rising and now re-entering?) for on the very night i that i found out he had sadly passed a few years prior without my knowing, i think he put his hand on my shoulder and led me to your site. it was in the same night i found your site, was blessed with the insight i needed and still do! and hence first wrote to you. So much has been better since then, thanks to you, both!? i trust you can intuit this truth as well or better than i, yet i remain confident in my integrity on this intuition involving brother Glenn (whom i never met in person, nor trained in ninjutsu with). i can see that i'm now over my head, literally and symbolically...i am shown this solar system specifically is in evolution via revolutions about the grand celestial kundalini sun in the sky. Further i feel the earth itself, due in part to humanities ignorance and disassociation with her, is in need of expressing kundalini herself. It seems to be the solar systems way of cleansing, first by releasing more kundalyn energies into the bodies being birthed from earth and star dust for ?decades now, which is part of why so many spontaneous risings of human kundalini are manifesting. Perhaps it's earths way of asking us to help her self/inhabitants as she prepares to release her own kundalini. Many humans know by experience how much pain & strife/anxiety can come through ill prepared awakenings. To know the astrology of earth (northern polar astrology) would definitely be of significance to all, particularly in terms of timing of release, the locations, and in terms of intensity and durations of releases, yes? Who really knows the grand view well enough? Earth can be intuited if we are awake enough to catch the feeling she offers us in the more subtle language she uses. I'm getting off the point/mark, forgive my sin. Our enviornment is only so controllable. It serves earth and humanity to move well through the future's inner and outer changes. Whom is in control of this process? Certainly not i, one tiny pea within the grand sea as it foams through uncertain crests and troughs. Individually all i can do is tumble respectfully and hopefully surrender and accept of what is yet to come, while playing what small role i feel i can by any means sensible or supra-sensible. Modern astrology i consider useless for the most part, but through the wisdom mind set upon the context of chakras, now we have a tool for any being, whom in my opinion still has a body. The way i see it, the body is a manifestation of the unconscious mind, which generally serves to satisfy past karma sourced and stored within the wondrous chakras. Perhaps, internal combustion? or ascending to heaven leaving only fingernails/hair is possible when ones karma is truly purified/overcome wherein i feel kundalini would be the likely vehicle for this type of projection. Further, i feel kundalini will continue to evolve (rapidly) as far as i can conceive, taking us into infinity where even angels/astral entities fear to tread, lying far beyond the physical visible manifest garden of God we call this universe. What is a problem, if nothing but simply an imbalance within ones own consciousness, ? it's a personal chakra thing unique to each monad, generally sourced from eons if not an eternity of that individual monads memory/soul. Even with kundalini, we are mistaken to think all we need overcome is this lifetime's karma. For we are truly vast in this regard. Without doubt, i can attest to the validity of the safeties and suggested practices. Indeed wise and absolutely wonderful. What works, works ! Yet i'm not convinced that we can rule or overcome anything other than self. I'm not convinced we are the cosmos, rather i feel the cosmos is knowable within. It may be that we are powerless to move the heavenly bodies (in our present evolution anyway?). Perhaps Humanity mistakes the 10 system of nature as a path of power in which one desires to overcome nature/external manifestation. Even with kundalini i feel we need the 12 system to overcome selves, and if & when cosmically proper, kundalini will lend a huge helping hand ! Astrology pertains to astral realms, of which we all naturally experience within the images of dreams. In my understanding, the 12 system enhances dream awareness. Many symbols are archetypal, many are personal, yet all can be understood within the framework of this solar systems correlate of the zodiac. With astrology we can merge intuitive and objective realms better than usage of physical senses in many cases. As we dream we wash the chakras, and hopefully with awareness can keep what is valuable and spin the unwanted out of the chakra. Dream interpretation and the yoga of the dream state are valid paths to enlightenment, as we all know. In human terms, dreams and out o body experiences occur within the astral dimension. are had in the astral. Likewise kundalini is also an astral event, which like a dream (coming true ) precipitates/descends into the physical, and more rapidly IF the pores of the chakric filters are expanded/less debris clogging them up. i feel that the masses would more rapidly benefit by knowing where kundalini is having to work hardest. Lets consider the consequences of helping our own mother out ! It cannot hurt ! Literally it would lessen the anxiety at the least and hasten more rapidly a purely joyous awakening. Perhaps less pimples, less pressures and more pleasures can be had by reducing first by own wise efforts the degree mother is required as she scrubs and cleans us ! I do not feel every ones chakras/rooms need to be cleaned in the same way. For indeed wondrously we are all unique and come with lesser or more dirty rooms, some with doors already for mothers inspection, some locked wherein mother has to knock the door down so as to enter and clean. This can waist precious time, and precious amounts of prana. Perhaps her temper-ature is proportional to our own degree of defiance/ignorance. I wish to assist mother kundalini and love her by playing my role to clean up and maintain my house/chakras. I feel astrology lends me an extra tool by which i can.....do it....with love and greater responsibility This i feel is worth sharing....how to do it? i honestly do not know outside of my own experiences, for i have not worked with kundalites .....it's exciting to me to think new thoughts ! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 , " pkmorphew " <pkmorphew wrote: > > Rockanandadad > Namaste, > I am confused about your sun sign astrology. Vedic Astrology goes by the moon, not the sun and the 1st house is neither of those, it is called Asendant or Lagna. So, are you mixing western and Vedic or you are just going by western? Thanks for clarifying. > Blissfully, > Pamela namaste Pamela, The astrology as taught through the kriya seminary i attended, is in fact western and can and in my opinion recalculated to attain an esoteric chart. in both instances it remains a 12 house system, retaining simplicity and yet cosmolizes the individual by laying the chart over the chakric system. If you are familiar with western circular charts, just place leo and cancer at the top and this is where to begin to draw ones head. thus the feet are at the bottom of the chart ending with capricorn and aquarius. these are then known as the left and right hemispheres of the capricorn-aquarius chakra called saturn chakra or mulhadara (for example). hope this small insight is of use to you. thanks for asking ! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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