What is K fire? - Jeff

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I understand Jeff and yes the safeties as a stand alone practice are very

effective. Most seem not to be able to do one aspect or another though. Selfless

service is one that is often skipped. The programming areas are also often

skipped. IJ or the inner joy is often skipped.

 

Nice to read that you are able to do the entire practice!

 

As far as the gifts that come with the Kundalini I see them as major classrooms

of experiential teachings in and of themselves. Being able to survive extremes

of temperature that would kill most other people teaches one the extraordinary

qualities of what these gifts are offering and they also can highlight some

information about the nature of divine interaction upon the body physical.

 

This is turn can give one knowledge based in experience about the unlimited

potentials of the human body within the Kundalini awakening. The skills go on

and on and from the teachings of these skills are we able to discern that they

are gifts of the path but not the goal of the path. Either way though they are

to be experienced and learned from.

 

This is what many of the " masters " miss in their admonition against the use of

exalted skills brought by the Kundalini. What I feel they are really saying is

to not get addicted to these skills rather then never using them. But through

time misinterpretation and secrecy the teachings became a bit warped. imho.

 

With Kundalini comes skills whether one wishes it or not. Often one isnt even

given a choice as to whether or not these skills are to be used as they are

thrust upon a person! I suggest that we take the teachings given and merely not

get addicted to control over others or fantasies about taking shortcuts.

 

Ego issues can nullify exalted skills.

 

As far as digging up the seed yes my friend let it grow and have faith that it

will grow. This is as much a test of trust as it is of practice. - blessings to

you Jeff! - chrism

 

, " Jeffrey " <getjeff1

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> Chrism,

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> Thanks again for the advice and guidance. I accept what you're saying about

being too mental about it. I'll (try NOT to!) work on it. Just let it

happen......

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> My initial goal is not to " have an experience " , rather it is get activated to

the degree where the 1-way trip has definitely begun. I feel like I'm with a

lot of others in this group in that I sincerely don't care about whether I can

sit outside in a blizzard (admitted, this is pretty cool, but, then again, I

live in Florida), short-circuit traffic lights, or whatever. I basically view

all this stuff as somewhere between somewhat interesting and somewhat annoying

-- in that it represents some THING between the Union of the individual and the

All..... which I understand as being the ever-deepening end-goal of K.

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> I've got to say, I'm genuinely glad for the practice of the safeties stand

alone. I would probably not have actually done them but for their being held

out as a pathway to K activation, but having done them pretty seriously for 3

months, I realize that they are themselves an end in an of themselves. I don't

know if it's baby-K, just getting more balanced, getting rid of the heavy,

negative energies, or may be a combination, but the practice has been great and

has actually improved my life and my relationship with all the rest of what IS.

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> I guess I am guilty of always wanting more of a good thing. I'll try to let

planted seeds just grow.

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> Thanks again Chrism,

> Jeff

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> > Yes hello Jeffery,

> > Seems like your digging up the seed to see if it has

sprouted! I will encourage you to just let it be and try not to get lost in

figuring this out or being too mental about it. lol! I know that is easier said

than done as I was also a mountain of questions at an earlier stage.

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> > Kundalini Fire is hot! Very Hot! That you are not feeling this as yet is a

blessing as you are not in a place where its expression would be comfortable for

you. Same with the kriyas or the kidney dilation or any of the gross phenomena

of the Kundalini awakening.

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> > I will suggest that you turn your interest into working with the

instructions and trusting that which has brought you here and into this

information. I will suggest that when you reach a certain point within the

awakening and or activation you WILL feel the extreme heat and the extreme cold.

But hopefully not before you are able to process these experiences without going

into fear or feeling something is wrong which is a very common experience.

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> > So please allow yourself the patience and the trust that this process is

going to give to you what you can have and handle by points of refinement within

your process. Your mental ego cannot do this. This isnt a one stop enlightenment

shop.

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> > I will suggest that you may need to experience more than one quarterly

Shaktipat. That as you experience these and continue your work within the

Kundalini the needed refinements will come together for an increase in the

evolution of the awakening within you. Then you will be given those experiences

which will offer more than certain confidence that Kundalini is indeed awake and

the great transformation has begun. -

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> > , " Jeffrey " <getjeff1@>

wrote:

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> > > I've been going inside myself and trying to " see " what/whether the K has

started, and I do see fire. Nothing feels hot, but when I do the prayer I or

meditate, I do get bursts of heat, kinda like having a high fever for just a

moment.... no snakes or spiders, just the fire. I find myself doubting my own

perception, though, because I don't feel anything hot along the spine itself.

Could anyone share some knowledge on exactly what the " fire " associated with K

(or is the fire itself the K?) actually is?

> > >

> > > I have noticed that it is burning low, partially because I feel I am

" clenching " . I think this is a surrender issue, but I'm not having a lot of

success feeling how I should surrender when I get an upward energetic surge.

Strangely, there's no heat associated with these surges -- but they do seem to

originate from the fire in my 1st chakra..... any thoughts/comments would be

appreciated.

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> > > Thanks again Chrism!

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> > > Jeffrey

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