Failing Upwards

[Guest guest]

Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions. Here is something for us all to

consider - What is it about " you " that may not be " appropriate " to society? And

how comfortable are you in crossing those lines that say " do not cross " ? -

chrism

[Guest guest]

There is nothing good or bad, ethical or non ethical, appropriate or non

appropriate in K awakening. I have crossed all the lines, but to remain in the

society one can not openly exhibit.I too use a partner for  Tantric practise.I

don't like to torture myself by all that celibate stuff.'Use it or lose it'.Of

course you need to store bindu ; too for upward progress.But people in medical

field believe if it is stored in excess it will be thrown out  through

urine.........shrikant

 

 

 

 

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Mon, 29 March, 2010 2:44:04 PM

Failing Upwards

 

 

Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions. Here is something for us all to

consider - What is it about " you " that may not be " appropriate " to society? And

how comfortable are you in crossing those lines that say " do not cross " ? -

chrism

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Re: Chrism:

 

 

Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions.

 

 

 

- quite frankly, I find that the self-righteous are doing

themselves and humanity much more of a disservice. Those who claim to have done

no wrong and look down on others for not fitting into their rigid spectrum of

belief backed up by dogma only.

 

Since my life has been a reflection of exposure from one extreme to the

other, I find that those who dare to be brave enough to step outside of this

spectrum of what is expected of them, in spite of the guilt trips thrust upon

them, are the ones who are most likely to eventually release all judgment in the

form of humility and compassion and embrace all the differences.

 

I openly admit that I feel tested on a regular basis and feel forced to set

boundaries. And I have learned that certain behaviors should be avoided, but

for the reason of truly understanding the consequences, of not wanting to

intentionally bring pain or harm to others. This I have learned the hard way.

I am far from perfect, still accidentally and unintentionally messing up much

more often than I would like.

 

I think for those who truly seek to understand the Divine, one needs to

experience some of these prerequisites that make it possible to step outside of

the narrow and bring the Whole picture into view. One who has felt the pain of

imperfection is more likely to be forgiving of the imperfections of others.

 

Whenever I think of my own shortcomings and past mistakes, I always am

reminded of the book by Dannion Brinkley called, " Saved by the Light, " where he

shares his near death experience. Prior to this experience, Dannion had lived a

life full of addiction, alcohol, cheating and fighting.

 

At the very end of the book, he recalled giving a talk to others about his

experiences and one lady from the back of the room said to him, " When God was

looking for prophets, he scraped the bottom of the barrel when he picked you. "

 

And Dannion answered, " Yes ma'am, he sure did. "

 

Somehow I think that this was the only reply that this lady would

understand, for it spoke to her in her own perceptual language of the

narrow-minded. Yet, it is obviously in sharp contrast to the knowledge of the

Whole.

 

Love,

GCDeb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh goodness! These thoughts run deep into my person.

 

Forgive me, for bringing heat to any or all, for I fear I've been innapropriate

in posting. For what is appropriate is consideration of others, and Inapropriate

to not CON-tribute. We as society are our knowlegde and actions. Both should be

compassionate.

 

These lines of cross I now feel sharply reminded. I withdraw into respect so as

to return with greater awareness of all.

 

I'm So embarassed at my posts of past gloat in glory, feeling today humility.

 

More thoughtful now...Tim

 

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> Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions. Here is something for us all to

consider - What is it about " you " that may not be " appropriate " to society? And

how comfortable are you in crossing those lines that say " do not cross " ? -

chrism

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[Guest guest]

How beautiful this post is and just what I needed to hear today. How I needed

to be reminded, for the lessons I have learned in past..I did learn a long time

ago not to judge others, because it seemed those things I judged others for, I

ended up doing myself...unless you walk in somebody else's shoes you have no

idea where they are coming from...

 

Then, somewhere along the way I stopped listening to my own inner child.....now

with K awakening, I am being forced to examine and re-examine those things my

own inner child knows...and I am having to learn to reset boundaries.....my

desires and my boundaries may not match anothers...but it does not make me right

or wrong....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Deb111222

 

Mon, Mar 29, 2010 7:44 am

Re: Failing Upwards

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Chrism:

 

Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions.

 

Chrism - quite frankly, I find that the self-righteous are doing themselves and

humanity much more of a disservice. Those who claim to have done no wrong and

look down on others for not fitting into their rigid spectrum of belief backed

up by dogma only.

 

Since my life has been a reflection of exposure from one extreme to the other, I

find that those who dare to be brave enough to step outside of this spectrum of

what is expected of them, in spite of the guilt trips thrust upon them, are the

ones who are most likely to eventually release all judgment in the form of

humility and compassion and embrace all the differences.

 

I openly admit that I feel tested on a regular basis and feel forced to set

boundaries. And I have learned that certain behaviors should be avoided, but for

the reason of truly understanding the consequences, of not wanting to

intentionally bring pain or harm to others. This I have learned the hard way. I

am far from perfect, still accidentally and unintentionally messing up much more

often than I would like.

 

I think for those who truly seek to understand the Divine, one needs to

experience some of these prerequisites that make it possible to step outside of

the narrow and bring the Whole picture into view. One who has felt the pain of

imperfection is more likely to be forgiving of the imperfections of others.

 

Whenever I think of my own shortcomings and past mistakes, I always am reminded

of the book by Dannion Brinkley called, " Saved by the Light, " where he shares

his near death experience. Prior to this experience, Dannion had lived a life

full of addiction, alcohol, cheating and fighting.

 

At the very end of the book, he recalled giving a talk to others about his

experiences and one lady from the back of the room said to him, " When God was

looking for prophets, he scraped the bottom of the barrel when he picked you. "

 

And Dannion answered, " Yes ma'am, he sure did. "

 

Somehow I think that this was the only reply that this lady would understand,

for it spoke to her in her own perceptual language of the narrow-minded. Yet, it

is obviously in sharp contrast to the knowledge of the Whole.

 

Love,

GCDeb

 

 

[Guest guest]

Chrism wrote : " Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions. Here is something

for us all to consider - What is it about " you " that may not be " appropriate "

to society? And how comfortable are you in crossing those lines that say " do not

cross " ? -

 

 

As I see it your admissions are your truths.... knowing that heat and fall out

would occur you still spoke your truth.

My feeling is that you were not being brave or courageous when you wrote those

" admissions " to us... you simply stated your truth and it is up to us how we

react to it... you or your kundalini are not bothered one way or the other. One

day I am going to be that ok in my own skin too..lol!

there are lots of things about me that may not be appropriate to society, but

society does not know that as I have not really spoken my truths.

Right now I am looking at lines that say " do not cross " I have crossed some and

I am crossing more and more of them...BUT... I am not ok to really speak of them

yet. I am not yet fully comfortable in my own skin.... I am not ok to be fully

ME in the society I live in.

But I am moving along slowly but surely... Kundalini invites sme all the time to

surrender and come fully into her and into myself...thank you teacher... thank

you chrism...with your love, example and guidence I will surely get there.

In love Julia.

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Re: Junneau:

 

 

" it seemed those things I judged others for, I ended up doing myself...unless

you walk in somebody else's shoes you have no idea where they are coming

from... "

 

 

 

Thanks so much, Junneau. Yes, I have been there too and this is so true.

Whenever we are on the outside looking in, we are unable to see the secret

battles and temptations of the other person. Sometimes people are bombarded

with them, yet no one has a clue.

 

No way can we really understand until we are forced to face the same

situation head on. And then when that happens, we realize how complicated these

situations can be. Humility, compassion and releasing judgment are not free.

They come with a price.

 

It is kind of like the teenager who has not yet lived the experiences to

understand or appreciate the value of their parent's experience. Yet as

parents, how easy it is to forget what it was like to be a teenager. I

sometimes forget what it was like to think that I could do no wrong. It seems

like such a distant memory to me now. I am acutely aware that I am prone to

mistakes.

 

I need to remember whenever I feel like the condemned, that I was once the

faultfinder, myself. I still pass judgment on those who pass judgment. I still

have low tolerance for blatant cruelty. So, there is still more work to do.

Makes me wonder if the cycle will ever end!

 

If I had a better memory ... perhaps.

 

Love,

GCDeb

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

now returning more aware,

 

please take my past posts as evidence of cleansing of my own ego, as for months

kundalini (and many thanks to all here) has been washing much out of me/ego. I

now take greater care in determining where and how i leave my shed skin. Please

know that much of my posts come from a good place within, many during or from

blissful feelings often associated with tears of joy.

 

accepting lessons of humility,

tim

 

 

 

 

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> Yes I am now getting heat from my admissions. Here is something for us all to

consider - What is it about " you " that may not be " appropriate " to society? And

how comfortable are you in crossing those lines that say " do not cross " ? -

chrism

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