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Many of us have had interactions with those on the internet that espouse certain

flavors of Kundalini. We in our innocence can get sucked into the paranormal

experiences and the mind games and the many opportunities for interactions with

these people.

 

Some of us have been abused by these teachers.

 

This abuse can be very hurtful and very damaging and can last for a very long

time. Sometimes people who have been abused havent been able to move beyond that

abuse and they will project it where ever they go.

 

The abuse is difficult because much of it can be on a psychic level and psychic

emotional levels and often what the program is about is servitude and reckless

power mongering. These teachers, they have made a mistake in their own awareness

and they are misappropriating and misapplying a great teaching.

 

That teaching is that of surrender.

 

I write this because once again I am helping another individual who has been so

abused. Tortured would be a better way to describe it and I want this list, this

community to know that I will not stand for this to happen here. Not by me and

not by anyone! They will simply vanish from this group. - lol!

 

Another reason I write this is because of the sensitive nature of surrender.

With the private students I ask them to agree to some very difficult levels of

surrender to the Kundalini in themselves and to the Kundalini in me. It is

difficult for anyone to do this and for some students the surrender is even

deeper. Some move into areas of practice that from an outside point of view

would seem inappropriate to say the least.

 

Yet they flourish.

 

The only thing inappropriate in any teaching is the level of ethics of the

teacher. By ethics I mean the level of love, respect and consideration the

teacher has for the Kundalini and the student that is entering its domain.

 

There is no surrender that is so difficult if there is trust between student and

teacher. This is what has been abrogated for so many in these internet areas of

Kundalini. Trust has been lost and it is hard, very hard to regain.

 

I want you to know that as I clean up the damage done to students by unethical

teachers it cements within me the fact that I will always keep my ethics based

in love, respect, trust and honesty. The surrenders will still be deep and steep

but no one here will ever need to be afraid of being used or abused in this

community if I can help it. -

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Master, your work inspires me.

Hi to all,

I pray goodness comes to all, especially to brother ?aindrue.

The recent posts are so exciting! I love the breath perspectives, thanks

danielle, bruce, shrikant, and gajanan thakar. Also thanks to O.S. For sharing

your sattvat post. All wonderful and meaningful to me.

 

I'm stuck with low back pain trying to get out of my car to go round on post op

patients and take this moment to be practical. I've been practicing these

breaths, and surrendering. Its so beautiful today, sun arising, air cool and all

so vibrant:) ah, I'm onto my quest now standing, slowly that is.

 

I'm surrendering my thoughts more. Its hard at times to become human be-ing when

I've been more of a human do-er.

 

Speaking of do, does anyone know the significance, if significant, of a series

of slow plopping sounds felt yet not felt, eminating out of my mouth from

?center of my chest? It was Audible by myself and son laying next to me in bed

but not audible to my wife? Ha! mysterious! Any one have this too?

 

May your days be filled with the loving joy for life, for all of your life.

 

Shanti and prem, tim

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 

 

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Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:34:24

 

Used and Abused

 

Many of us have had interactions with those on the internet that espouse certain

flavors of Kundalini. We in our innocence can get sucked into the paranormal

experiences and the mind games and the many opportunities for interactions with

these people.

 

Some of us have been abused by these teachers.

 

This abuse can be very hurtful and very damaging and can last for a very long

time. Sometimes people who have been abused havent been able to move beyond that

abuse and they will project it where ever they go.

 

The abuse is difficult because much of it can be on a psychic level and psychic

emotional levels and often what the program is about is servitude and reckless

power mongering. These teachers, they have made a mistake in their own awareness

and they are misappropriating and misapplying a great teaching.

 

That teaching is that of surrender.

 

I write this because once again I am helping another individual who has been so

abused. Tortured would be a better way to describe it and I want this list, this

community to know that I will not stand for this to happen here. Not by me and

not by anyone! They will simply vanish from this group. - lol!

 

Another reason I write this is because of the sensitive nature of surrender.

With the private students I ask them to agree to some very difficult levels of

surrender to the Kundalini in themselves and to the Kundalini in me. It is

difficult for anyone to do this and for some students the surrender is even

deeper. Some move into areas of practice that from an outside point of view

would seem inappropriate to say the least.

 

Yet they flourish.

 

The only thing inappropriate in any teaching is the level of ethics of the

teacher. By ethics I mean the level of love, respect and consideration the

teacher has for the Kundalini and the student that is entering its domain.

 

There is no surrender that is so difficult if there is trust between student and

teacher. This is what has been abrogated for so many in these internet areas of

Kundalini. Trust has been lost and it is hard, very hard to regain.

 

I want you to know that as I clean up the damage done to students by unethical

teachers it cements within me the fact that I will always keep my ethics based

in love, respect, trust and honesty. The surrenders will still be deep and steep

but no one here will ever need to be afraid of being used or abused in this

community if I can help it. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear chrism,

 

May all who find you, who have been hurt damaged used and abused by unethical

teachers...find again within themselves... through your giving of and

considerations of love to them...the ability to trust and to love and to live

the life as it is to be lived.

They have been blessed and graced to have found you and to be given this

opportunity for help and healing. My heart reaches out to them and to all who

have been hurt in this way.

We are all so blessed to have you as a teacher... I give thanks for you every

day.

 

love julia.

 

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> Many of us have had interactions with those on the internet that espouse

certain flavors of Kundalini. We in our innocence can get sucked into the

paranormal experiences and the mind games and the many opportunities for

interactions with these people.

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> Some of us have been abused by these teachers.

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