Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 I feel wide awake but it is 3.50 here and I forgot to say this so I must PS... I also think that when shatipat is given then chrisms kundalini goes to the student in a real way and is then present within. ________________________________ Julia Ahern <jajahern Sat, April 10, 2010 3:46:36 AM Re: Re: What is K Lineage?  Hi Jeff and Linda, I first came across the term liniage when I went to a school of philosophy. This school was founded here in the mid sixties and was begun by a man who had been a student of  a particular guru from india called Shri S. Shri S had been a student of shri someone elce and so this was the particular lineage of that school. I assume it is similar in regard to K.... there are also lineges in that students who have received shaktipat from a particular guru who received it from a previous guru and so on.... that would be the liniage and there would be practices and so forth connected with that liniage. There would be different teachings given in different lineages. Here I think is saying that he is not from such a particular lineage type as his K awakened spontaniously and was not given through shaktipat,  what he teaches here is given directly from Shakti. It sort of makes sense to me that is the first of this lineage, although I know such things are of no real  importance one way or the other. love julia  ____________ _________ _________ __ danceswithcats999 <crazycats711@ > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Sat, April 10, 2010 2:29:34 AM [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: What is K Lineage? I feel the way you do, but mankind thought up lineages as a way of making money from the giving of shaktipats. I think that is the reason. hehe! Who knows, it looks good their credentials. Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Jeffrey " <getjeff1@.. ..> wrote: > > > Could someone explain the subject of K lineage? I saw Chrism's article on the subject on the main site, but it raised more questions for me than it answered. If K is something inside of each individual, and is not a foreign energy, how could " lineage " be relevant? The " source " is each person's own soul..... isn't it? Whatever information anyone knows on the topic would be appreciated. > > Thanks again and all! > > Jeff > Hi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Namaste I can share a little about lineage. . . lineage is a a word that has many possibile meanings.. . . . Most every religious tradition has groups within the larger group that often honors or claims lineage. . .Jewish. . .Christian. . .Hindu. . ..Buddhist. . .Zen. . .Sufi. . . Sheik. . . Indigenous cultures. . . ..and on and on. . . Lineage can be based in biological (genetic/DNA), historical, religious, spiritual essence, teachings, guru transmissions such as in Buddhist /Hinduism/Taoist/ there are groups that connect back to that which came before in a long unbroken line of secession. Each lineage has subtle and unique expressions with various contexts. For example each one of us has DNA spiritual lineage. My mother is Native, my father is Irish/ and even though i was not raised in a tribal context yet embedded teachings have came from within in the process of awakening. Each one of us also has unique individual soul lineage and in the same way that many of us do not know our complete soul lineage we also each have many different kinds and veins of lineage. There are well guarded secret veins of lineage with practices that continue to climb s spiral stairway of awakening and there are public honorific politicized veins of lineage. There are those that turn it into " special " and egos love " special " . Lineage can turn into something that separates ones from the truth with its goal of the realization of Oneness. There are those who adhere to lineage to keep the lines pure for all of us. Some lineage groups are very solitary and humble and that is most beautiful. There are spiritual transmissions based on practices that are truly mind boggling. I would suggest reading Sri Ramakrishna's book The White Swan as a example of soul transmission into the ones living at the transition. There was a Sheik Guru Govind Singh or Guru Nana (sorry cannot remember which one in the 15th century) that made the decision to discontinue his succession of lineage and release the spiritual transmission into the beautiful sacred writings that has been used in the wondrous Sheik music and mantras that continue to transport many of us as we journey. I have teachers with long traditions of lineage based on spiritual teachings and transmissions and also many wonderful teachers that do not think in terms of lineage. My greatest teacher has always been Shakti/Mother Earth/Animals/ and listening within but if i am really honest i think it is impossible for any of us to not have powerful lineage that has carried us to 'Now' with such inexpressible grace and perfection. We stand on the shoulders of so many. We are the children our ancestors prayed for and we honor them and that is not contingent of anything except what was, what is, and what shall ever be. I just shrug my shoulders and trust whatever other people hold near and dear on their paths is right for them. Honor for those that are wrapped in lineage and just as much honor to those that have a 1000 tributaries and streams flowing into the river of KMa within each of us. .. . We are all going to the same river. . . And i agree with you Julia divine essence is. . . and it not dispelled. .. .and it is all One. . .such grace. . .we are just various forms ever being dance in Divine Play. . . Seems to me short cut is just to honor it all. . . in love and honor sparrow , Julia Ahern <jajahern wrote: > > I feel wide awake but it is 3.50 here and I forgot to say this so I must PS... > > I also think that when shatipat is given then chrisms kundalini goes to the student in a real way and is then present within. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Guru Nanak was 1st Guru, Guru Gobind singh was 10 th and  last who dicontinued succession...........shrikant --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Ordinary Sparrow <ordinarysparrow wrote: Ordinary Sparrow <ordinarysparrow Re: PS : What is K Lineage? Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 9:56 AM  Namaste I can share a little about lineage. . . lineage is a a word that has many possibile meanings.. . . . Most every religious tradition has groups within the larger group that often honors or claims lineage. . .Jewish. . .Christian. . .Hindu. . ..Buddhist. . .Zen. . .Sufi. . . Sheik. . . Indigenous cultures. . . ..and on and on. . . Lineage can be based in biological (genetic/DNA) , historical, religious, spiritual essence, teachings, guru transmissions such as in Buddhist /Hinduism/Taoist/ there are groups that connect back to that which came before in a long unbroken line of secession. Each lineage has subtle and unique expressions with various contexts. For example each one of us has DNA spiritual lineage. My mother is Native, my father is Irish/ and even though i was not raised in a tribal context yet embedded teachings have came from within in the process of awakening. Each one of us also has unique individual soul lineage and in the same way that many of us do not know our complete soul lineage we also each have many different kinds and veins of lineage. There are well guarded secret veins of lineage with practices that continue to climb s spiral stairway of awakening and there are public honorific politicized veins of lineage. There are those that turn it into " special " and egos love " special " . Lineage can turn into something that separates ones from the truth with its goal of the realization of Oneness. There are those who adhere to lineage to keep the lines pure for all of us. Some lineage groups are very solitary and humble and that is most beautiful. There are spiritual transmissions based on practices that are truly mind boggling. I would suggest reading Sri Ramakrishna' s book The White Swan as a example of soul transmission into the ones living at the transition. There was a Sheik Guru Govind Singh or Guru Nana (sorry cannot remember which one in the 15th century) that made the decision to discontinue his succession of lineage and release the spiritual transmission into the beautiful sacred writings that has been used in the wondrous Sheik music and mantras that continue to transport many of us as we journey. I have teachers with long traditions of lineage based on spiritual teachings and transmissions and also many wonderful teachers that do not think in terms of lineage. My greatest teacher has always been Shakti/Mother Earth/Animals/ and listening within but if i am really honest i think it is impossible for any of us to not have powerful lineage that has carried us to 'Now' with such inexpressible grace and perfection. We stand on the shoulders of so many. We are the children our ancestors prayed for and we honor them and that is not contingent of anything except what was, what is, and what shall ever be. I just shrug my shoulders and trust whatever other people hold near and dear on their paths is right for them. Honor for those that are wrapped in lineage and just as much honor to those that have a 1000 tributaries and streams flowing into the river of KMa within each of us. .. . We are all going to the same river. . . And i agree with you Julia divine essence is. . . and it not dispelled. .. .and it is all One. . .such grace. . .we are just various forms ever being dance in Divine Play. . . Seems to me short cut is just to honor it all. . . in love and honor sparrow Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julia Ahern <jajahern@.. .> wrote: > > I feel wide awake but it is 3.50 here and I forgot to say this so I must PS... > > I also think that when shatipat is given then chrisms kundalini goes to the student in a real way and is then present within. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear sparrow, good afternnon from here... I love the energy I feel when I read your writing... as you shared about the meanings of lineage there is a passion and love that flows from you to us all. Loving it and thank you. love julia , " Ordinary Sparrow " <ordinarysparrow wrote: > > Namaste > > I can share a little about lineage. . . lineage is a a word that has > many possibile meanings.. . . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Thanks Julie. . . sparrow , " Julia " <jajahern wrote: > > Dear sparrow, > > good afternnon from here... > > I love the energy I feel when I read your writing... as you shared about the meanings of lineage there is a passion and love that flows from you to us all. Loving it and thank you. > > love julia > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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