Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Polish Catholics Persecute Krishna Worshippers by Ella Serwin and Magdalena Mola Krishna worshippers in Poland are up against a fascist-like anti-Vedic movement made up of an unholy alliance between Roman Catholic fanatics and members of the Republican league an ultra right wing quasi-political group. Priests and nuns from the Dominican order and members of other Catholic organizations have undertaken a massive misinformation campaign aimed at creating public hysteria over the "rising tide" of Hindu and Vedic teachings and its "evil consequences for Poland." Although the primary target of their bigotry and hatred is the Chaitanya Mission (founded by Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda), the attack has expanded to include Hindu beliefs in general and the sacred teachings of the Vedic literature. Examples of the type of persecution the Polish Krishna worshippers are experiencing include the following: Gross Distortions of Vedic Philosophy and Religious Practices Sister Michaela, a Dominican nun, has claimed at public meetings and under oath in court that if Vaishnavism takes hold in Poland, worshippers of Krishna will introduce human sacrifices and "bloody offerings" before their "idols." She further claimed that "sati" will be introduced and widows of Krishna worshippers would be forcibly burned on their husbands' funeral pyres. Moreover, she asserts "temples of prostitution" will also be opened with group sex before the "idols." The "holy sister," who presents herself as an authority on Hinduism and Vedic culture, has also repeatedly blasphemed Lord Krishna. Destroying and Defacing Posters A professor at Lublin Catholic University appearing on a popular radio program instructed his students and members of the public to tear down or deface posters advertising festivals and meditation classes conducted by the Chaitanya Mission. As a result, Catholic hooligans regularly rip down posters or stamp the words "dangerous sect" along with pictures of a skull-and-crossbones on the posters. Disruption of Public Lectures In Krakow members of the Republican League have stood up in the midst of large public gatherings throwing "warning" flyers into the air along with firecrackers and stink bombs. One of the authors of this article, a rather frail woman in her late twenties, was knocked to the ground by a man from the Republican League when she asked him to leave the lecture. Republican League members have disrupted lectures in other cities as well. Harassment of Krishna Worshippers Representatives from the Dominican Center have harassed members of the public as they enter or attempt to enter auditoriums and halls to attend programs sponsored by the Chaitanya Mission. Handbills claiming that the Vedic teachings attack and undermine the Biblical teachings are also distributed. Harassment campaigns against individual Krishna devotees have also been conducted. Recently posters with a skull-and-crossbones displayed on them were pasted up and down the street where a 78-year-old Krishna worshipper lives. The posters gave his address and stated that a dangerous sect member lived there. A few days later the same individuals who put up the posters formed a picket line in front of the building where he lives. Within a few days this devotee, who was a Polish resistance fighter during WWII and highly decorated war hero, received an eviction letter from the Catholic organization owning the building he lived in. The devotee, Narasingha das, stated as follows, "I have lived in this building for 30 years with no problems. Now I am being evicted because I am not a Catholic. I just want to spend the last few years of my life worshipping Krishna. I fought against fascism and the Nazis to defend the freedom of the Polish people and I am an invalid because of my service to my country. Yet now Polish citizens are using fascist tactics to try to take away my own freedom. I cannot understand it." Catholic officials have also contacted landlords and managers of halls and auditoriums rented by the group and discouraged them from renting their facilities to the Chaitanya Mission. Other landlords are afraid to rent to the Mission because of the stink bomb and firecracker attacks and the threat of damage to their facilities by the Republican League and other hooligans. Therefore it is becoming increasingly difficult for the Chaitanya Mission to conduct its public programs. The Chaitanya Mission, with ashrams and centers in all major Polish cities, is doing its best to defend the Vedic Dharma. An education campaign is under way by the Mission to counter Sister Michaela's misrepresentation of Hindu religious practices and her twisted and perverted descriptions of Krishna's divine lila. And a lawsuit for defamation and slander has been filed against Ann Lubowcheska, president and founder of the "Society to Protect the Family and Individual." Through news articles and leaflets distributed at public programs, Ms. Lubowcheska has falsely charged that Krishna worshippers from Chaitanya Mission engaged in activities which were illegal and extremely harmful to Polish society. However, during the first two court appearances, she admitted she had no evidence whatsoever to support her accusations. It appears she got her allegations from a book describing the activities of dangerous sects. Since she imagines Chaitanya Mission to be a sect, she concluded its members must engage in such activities even though the Chaitanya Mission is not even mentioned in the source books! The battle against oppression is far from won. Using a strange defense allowed under an obscure Polish law, Ms. Lubowcheska is claiming that even though what she said was untrue, she had a right to say it "for the greater good of Polish society." She asserts the Vedic teachings presented by the Chaitanya Mission pose a serious threat to social well being and it was her duty to call attention to their activities in Poland. In effect her defense is to claim that the Chaitanya Mission is a dangerous sect. Although her specific allegations of illegal and harmful activities have been disproven, to win the final count against her that she falsely claimed Chaitanya Mission is a dangerous sect teaching dangerous ideas from the Vedas the burden is on the Polish Krishna worshippers to prove that Vaishnavism is a bona fide religious tradition. To this end, Tusta Krishna das, founder of the Hindu Religious Freedom Foundation and a fellow disciple of Jagad Guru, was called to testify as an expert witness at the case. He presented several letters of praise for the Mission's activities from Catholic professors, nuns and priests in the Republic of the Philippines where Chaitanya Mission also has a large presence. Not only has there never been any conflict with Catholics in that country, but Jagad Guru's books are being used there as textbooks in Catholic universities. More than 70 letters from charities and social welfare institutions who have benefited by the Chaitanya Mission programs in Poland and Russia were also presented. Through recent news articles and TV reports, the public is gradually becoming aware of the injustices being dished out to the Polish Krishna worshippers. As a result, support for their plight is growing. "Nonetheless," Tusta Krishna das stated, "with the offensive testimony of Sister Michaela and the depth of fanaticism amongst the Dominicans, it is still going to be an uphill battle to establish the purity of Vedic teachings. We need help from Hindu and Vedic scholars around the world, and the sooner the better." Tusta Krishna das' five and a half hour testimony primarily focused on refuting misconceptions presented by Sister Michaela and also establishing the sacred nature of the Vedic scriptures and high moral character of those who follow them. And much has been done to discredit Sister Michaela herself, the Dominican Center's "expert" on Hinduism. Skeptical about her testimony under oath that she held a degree in Sociology of Religion from Karnatak University, Chaitanya Mission representative Sunil Khemaney contacted university officials. He learned Karnatak University does not even have a religious studies department. Professor Anil Mudbidri from the Sociology Department further informed Mr. Khemaney that in his 25 years at the university no foreign student had ever studied in that department. And finally the registrar, Dr. Rajshekr, advised that not only had no degree been awarded to Sister Michaela (legal name Zofia Pawlik), no one by that name had ever been enrolled as a student at Karnatak University. It seems Sister Michaela has not only been misrepresenting Hinduism and the Vedic teachings but also her own background. Chaitanya Mission members are not surprised. Tapasya das, head of the Chaitanya Mission in Poland, has an interesting and insightful take on the whole affair. Noting that early missionaries to India established Roman Catholicism not only through fear and intimidation but by slaughtering thousands of "non-believers" and by razing numerous Hindu temples in the province of Goa, he commented as follows: "How would the Catholics in India react if they were harassed and persecuted by local Hindus in the same way their Polish brethren persecute us? It would be an international incident! More importantly, perhaps, is how Hindus in India will react given the rising surge of Hindu activism when they discover how the Catholics are treating us here." "This is a great contrast of values," he further stated. "Despite the fact that early Catholic missionaries in India often engaged in atrocities not unlike the Muslims, just look how nicely Hindus honored Mother Theresa when she died, even though they did not accept her beliefs. This is proof positive of the tolerant nature of those who follow the Vedic culture. Would an Indian saint be treated the same way by Catholics if he died in the West?" Based on what he learned during his visit to Poland, Tusta Krishna das feels that the Catholics are conducting a full frontal attack not only on Chaitanya Mission but on all Hindus and followers of the Vedic culture. "If we don't stop this cold, it may very well spread to other countries as well." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebot Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 If something is new the movement automatically is labeled a cult, specially in countries like Poland or Russia. What they don't know is that the church itself is also a cult in some sense but is just bigger and has established itself. All religions are such (cult), since there is always faith involved in the process. All glories to Sripad Tusta Krishna Raj, he must be smiling somewhere out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 It is very similar what is happened (and going on now) in Serbia and come from some people from Orthodox Church. For normal human being it is very difficult to understand mentality of such people (if they are people at all, except by body). Amount of ignorance and envy in hearts of such people are incomprehensible. Theirs harts and minds looks like stinky and poisonous lair of serpents. How ignorance can be so deep!? How living being can be so misfortune!? How envy make living being blind for spirituality in spite of good brain intelligence!? And yet have idealized idea about himself as very spiritual and religious person?! What dangerous state of existence! Hopefully I am sure and believe that in Orthodox and Catholics Church there are many people with spiritual vision or at least with human vision. For others who are became blind due to ignorance and envy we can just pray to Krishna to make them free of such dangerous and miserable position. “You can subdue the snake by chanting a snake mantra or some drug, but this man-snake cannot be subdued.” It is very, very dangerous. "Just see. Jesus Christ, what fault he had? He was preaching about God, and he was crucified. Crucified. That is in your country, a very good example. Simply his fault was he was talking of God, that’s all, and he was crucified." So, always there are envious living beings in human form of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Sometimes I would like this happen to Italy, so at least there would be a sign of interest from the people! Anyway european community has a departement for Human Rights, and the freedom of religious choice is one of the basic rights. Maybe they should denounce this situation to EC since Poland is one of the next country to enter euro. Did they already did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 if you want to complain to the catholic church, this is run by an italian priest, the catholic apologetics forum at msn. i've thrown in my two cents. shiva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebot Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 catholics in poland follows the liberal branch which is rhe roman church and is base in rome/vatican. The catholics in russia follows the orthodox branch which is the eastern catholic church. recently, the russian goverment along with the orthodox church has been pressuring the smaller and newer religions that does not follow it's eastern orthodox traditions wherevy making it harder to operate in russia. this makes you wonder which one is worst than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 When we (local Polish devotees) started actively preaching in Poland in the early eighties we used to cooperate with quite a few Catholics, even priests and nuns. Thanks to them we were able to bring into the country the first edition of Bhagavad Gita. We gave several hundred books to these people as a token of our appreciation and they were SELLING it to raise money for their projects! LOL! These were the days.... :-) I guess now they feel threatened... that is a good sign ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebot Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Hi Kulapavana I've heard that there are now a number of vaishnava devotees in Poloand from different brnaches or missions. Thats good news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Yes prabhu, I have met very nice devotees in Poland from a few different missions. I love them all! Variety is a spice of life (both spiritual and material ;-) I live in US now (Prabhupada Village) but the spread of Lord Caitanya's movement in Poland is both very dear and very inspiring to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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