vishnu Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Seven Days in Heaven I request to send you this testimony of this wonderful man of God who usually visits our house in Kampala, Uganda. Emmanuel Tuwagiraimana is from Rwanda, central Africa. Before 1994, he had been living as a Christian but he was not faithful in his walk with God. During the Rwandan genocide of 1994, Emmanuel and his friends were trapped in Kabwai School, Gitarama town, about 45km from Kigali, the capital of Rwanda. Emmanuel could not walk as he had suffered severe bomb sharpenels that had left him with severe wounds all over the body. They could not move out of the school because it was risky and very dangerous. Due to lack of medical attention, one morning Emmanuel was found dead by his friends. They wrapped his swollen and smelling body in a bed cover and pushed it in a far corner in the room. By now, smelling fluids were oozing out of Emmanuels dead body. Emmanuel says he did not know how suddenly he went out of his body. He found himself at a big gate. Two men stood at that gate and intoduced themselves. They said: "We are angels. Now you are standing at the gate of the heaven" When Emmanuel looked upon himself, he realised that he was putting on a very beautiful body, unlike the earthly one. The two men took him through sweet smelling garden of flowers. They took him to a man who introduced himself as Christ. Jesus presented himself to Emmanuel in two forms. First he presented himself with a body of scars. He showed Emmanuel the scars made by nails at the cross. After Jesus knew that Emmanuel had no more doubts, He (Jesus) started moving with Emmanuel while he put on a very beautiful body with no scars. Jesus told Emmanuel many things. Then they came together back to earth. They went to Rwanda and stood in the very room where Emmanuel's body lay. They stood in the air and morever, no one could see them. Jesus showed Emmanuel his dead body. Emmanuel says it looked terrible. "It looked like a dead cow!" Emmanuel says. They could hear the voices of people in the room. They were saing:"Oh, the saved man had died!" Jesus told Emmanuel that one day he would go back into that rotten body. Jesus took Emmanuel back to heaven and showed him a city of very beautiful houses. Emmanuel says he has never seen such houses. Then he was shown a lake. Jesus told him that his time had not come yet so he coulkd not cross that lake. Accross the lake he could see living persons. When he looked closely, he saw a Moslem man he had known in Rwanda. Also, he could recognise some Christians he had worked with. He asked Jesus how these people could be there. Christ told him that these people succeeded to make it to heaven to be with God. Emmanuel asked how a Moslem could be among them. Jesus told him: "As he was dying, that man called upon my name and I saved him from eternal fire". Then Emmanuel asked about a certain dead Sister in the Lord with whom they had been ministering to in Rwanda. Jesus told him that she could not come to heaven because she died with a lot of unforgiveness and bitterness in her heart. She had refused to forgive her fellow Christians who did not visit her in a Rwandan hospital. Then Emmanuel asked about a certain dead man with whom they were praying. Jesus told him that man could not go to heaven because he kept on stealing money collected by Christians to help the sick in hospitals. Emmanuel was taken to hell. Hell is filthy and people are made to work day and night. There is no rest. All beings there are naked. Then Jesus brought something that looked like a chocolate bar. Jesus told Emmanuel to eat it. He ate it and true, it tated like chocolate. He ate the whole of it. Jesus told him: "You have eaten the Bible. Now it is in your head, you will be able to memorise it every where you go" [This is true. Emmanuel has all the scriptures in his head]. Seven days after he had died on earth, Jesus told Emmanuel it was time to go back in his body. At first Emmanuel refused leaving heaven. But Jesus just touched him with the tip of his finger. Emmnuesl found himself in a dead rotten body. He says he struggled with one arm to keep the maggots out of his mouth. His friends in the room could not believe their eyes when they saw Emmanuels moving body. The straps got loose and Emmanuel sat down. His friends run out of the school shouting that they had seen a ghost! But Emmanuel also shouted calling them and assuring them he was not a ghost. He aws given food and taken to the hospital. One of Emmanuel's arms had rotten to the extent of almost falling off. Doctors in Rwanda decided to amputate it but God told Emmanuel not to accept. In God's supernatural working ways, God appeared to a white doctor in Australia. He told him to go to Rwanda to do surgery on Emmanuel's arm so that it is not amputated. In a strange vision, God gave this doctor a picture of Emmanuel and the address of the Rwandan hospital. This Doctor obeyed and saved Emmanuels right arm in Rwanda! [note: from 1994 to 1999 Emanuel had a supporting metallic support structure on his arm fixed by this doctor. Now he had removed it]. After healing, Emmanuel started his ministry of testifying what happened to him and his visit to heaven. His is always on the move in African countries. His telephone in Kigali Rwanda is 250-517030. Also, he can be contacted at Post Office Box 3268 Kampala, Uganda. Thanks and God bless you. Makko Musagara P.O.Box 3268 Kampala, Uganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 All, Don't be deceived by this story. It's an aim to convert you to Christianity. The Christians will do whatever it takes to make up stories to deceive the gullable among society to convert them. Jesus cannot save you, that's a fact. He coudln't save himself so how can he save you? If we truly go to the spiritual world then there is no material boby, thus how can you recognise people who were once on Earth with the same body? The Bhagavad-gita teaches that we are not the body, thus when we die, we do not take this body with us. This alone proves this story is a hoax. Vishnu is a deceiver trying to convert the hare krishnas to Christianity. Don't be fooled by him. Only Lord krishna can save you, and he proved it when he appeared 5000 years. He killed all the atheists and demons right here on this planet. Lord Krishna saved many mankind in each of his incarnations. Read the Srimad Bhagavatam. Jesus although a Guru, did not save anyone, as he was just a man. Even the Muslims reject Jesus as the son of God and certainly not God. No Muslim would think of Jesus at the time of death, only Allah. Don't be taken by fools like Vishnu and his stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabrahman Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 it may be made up but NDE's are actually witnessed so it may be true. He has probably read the bible before in his life. Even if he barely rembered his subconsciouss mind knew it all. sometimes NDE's trigger something in the subconsciouss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 You are wrong Jesus said "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up" thus He spoke concerning His body and that was proven He is risen! the bible says CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS! HE IS ABLE TO SAVE TO THE UTTERMOST ALL THAT COME TO GOD BY HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_yasodanandana Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 "CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS! " a sin that we have to avoid, so jesus and god have less work to do, is to believe that god is so limited and so weak to have the possibility to save only the followers of one particular son or manifestation.. sectarism is a great sin, because is an offense to many pure and enlightened spiritualists who are all over the world in vaishnavism we learn that blaspheming other spiritualists is more destructive for our progress than blaspheming god himself one can be in any level of consciousness but fall immediately if he make bad judgements about a saint, a devotee, a spiritual seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I don't understand what this Vinsnu Prabhu or some other people want to prove or accomplish to post this kind of stories on this forum. My advice to them is Chant Hare Krishna and Be Happy !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Hare Krishna Vishnu Prabhu, If you a sincere faith in Srila Prabhupad then don't let your mind wonder hear and there. Just do What Srila Prahupad has instructed all of us 1)Chant Hare Krishna Mahamantra2)follow 4 regulated principles 3) Associate with the sincere Devotees You can go back to Godhead. So please don't get bewildered with so many things. There is so much out there which is very hard us to understand.So don't waste your valuable time. Remember life is too short!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila PRabhupada! I offer my humble obeisances unto him! I have a question?? This incident sounds bizarre for some reasons. First, most of these christians are meat-eaters. How can one see Jesus when you eat meat. Also, even if this person saw Jesus, how can he talk to him about all stuff and not mention about meat-eating, which i think is the BIGGEST SIN every man is committing. How can you talk about unalloyed love for GOD when you are killing fellow beings that are trying to co-exist peacefully on this planet. Isnt GOD equal to all creation which means also to animals. How come, none of these Near Death experience talk abotu violence to animals. I think this is an important subject matter because one can love GOD only if you love all beings created by HIM like it says in the Vedic scriptures. In the Bible it says "Thou Shalt not Kill" and as a true Christian you should not eat meat. Assuming this person who had NDE eats meat, Jesus should never condone this person and give HIm the Bible to memorize which means either this story is false or just a halucination or something like that. For example, If Krishna says not to eat meat and I eat it anyways, how will I be able to see Krishna and Iam sure Krishna will not want to see me because I disobeyed HIS principles. So, I dont know how Christ saw this person. To me.......this is strange as none of the Christian Near Death experiences talk about meat eating and other wrong doings (like unregulated sex and others). Anyways, these are my thoughts!! However, I want to serve Krishna even if Jesus stands in front of me. Probably, I will chant Hare Krishna with Jesus!! Haribol! anand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Vishnu is a deceiving Christian preacher who knows nothing about the real God, the real religion (the vedic religion), nor the real teachngs of Jesus. There are many Hindus who give up a diamond (Vedic religion) for some stool and then try to give the stool to others. Vishnu is one of them. They make-up some silly stories to convert the gullables. He and others like him don't deserve any respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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