Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Can someone in brief tell me the qualities of Krsna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Srila Rupa Gosvami, after consulting various scriptures, has enumerated the transcendental qualities of the Lord as follows: (1) beautiful features of the entire body; (2) marked with all auspicious characteristics; (3) extremely pleasing; (4) effulgent; (5) strong; (6) ever youthful; (7) wonderful linguist; (8) truthful; (9) talks pleasingly; (10) fluent; (11) highly learned; (12) highly intelligent; http://nectarofdevotion.com/21/en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Thanks, I was reading the Uddhava Geeta and I came accross Bhagavan saying this 11. According to knowledge in the material mode of goodness, there is no qualitative difference between the living entity and the supreme controller. The imagination of qualitative difference between them is useless speculation. Uddhava Geeta - Ch 22 v 11 What are the implications of this statement with respect to the qualities enumerated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Dandavats Hare Krishna, God is realized in 3 aspects one after the other, as Brahman [impersonal aspect], Paramatma [Localized aspect] and Bhagavan [Personal aspect]. All of these CANNOT be understood by any material means. The verse you posted is amazing. Really a treasure of knowledge. The last part is authoratative, because it explains people on the impersonal path always speculate. I hope thats ok, what I said. Where is Uddhava-Gita on-line? Nitai-Gauranga. Radha-Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 The Uddhava Geeta can be found in the Bhagavatam. I got it online a long time now I cannot remember where. Some of the most beautiful and powerful verses are given in it. They will raise the hair on the back of your neck when you read them. Your best bet might be to google it . I find that it is a lot more in depth than Bhagavad Geeta. There is also Uttara Geeta that was spoken by Krsna to Arjuna AFTER the war. This is a very short geeta though. The statement I posted however seems to me to establish Advaita. I find that people on any path speculate, those for personality speculate about his personality those for impersonality speculate about impersonality. But all paths say that you should not speculate. I guess it all goes back to what you understand as speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 That's all I have to say. Plus nobody even has any brains to speculate properly in this Age. Scientists say This Whole Creation was created by a BIG-Bang. Even Vedas, the Mayavadis are so degraded. Everybody, thats why it says Only way for Yoga is to chant. Chant then read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Well I won't go so far as to say no one has the brains to speculate. After all this technology we are using, has come into existence through the brainpower of scientists. I don't know how widely big bang theory is accepted, now they are moving to more a cyclic expansion and regression of the universe (closer to the vedic model). There is a difference between useless speculation and intelligent guessing. But don't knock science, they dont claim to know all the answers. Things like big bang etc are always confined to theories, like theory of relativity. When they become proven by quantifiable repeatable experiments they then become law. Theories like big bang dont try to explain how or why the creation came to be, they try to explain the manner in which the universe is the way it is and more importantly mathematically describe natural relationships since this is the basis for control and manipulation of the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Just like everything esle is speculation. The scientists didn't create anything, Radio, Televisions, they just manipulated what was already provided to them by Krishna. Just imagine the brain power of Lord Brahma? Who created this Universe. Manipulation is material objects. But people won't go for that. Like I said they don't have the brain power. [even the big so-called scientists!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Creation in just that. no one can "create" in the sense of creating matter, that is against physical law. Don't put your meaning to their word and then say they don't know what they are talking about. Creation in the scientific sense IS the manipulation of the environment and the scientists don't think it to be anything else. They are not saying they created electromagnetic induction or antenna effect. BUT they did create a device which uses matter and the mathematics behind these effects to bring us radio. Previously there was no radio now there, to bridge that gap the radio had to be CREATED. and YES that is just a manipulation of what was already there, not even Lord Brahma can make something without what is needed. and if you say he can create what is needed then I will say well then something has to be there create what is needed. and we can go on like that. Give the people their due they worked hard all their lives to come up with things that allow ISKCON to be accessible to people all over and we say they didnt do anything. I don't think that is fair. So if everything else is speculation what are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 But all I have to say is, scientists don't give credit to Krishna. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Besides some of the physicists like Hawkings a lot others actually are religious. eg. Albert Einstein, (1879-1955) physicist. In 1905 He published his theory of Relativity. Einstein said: " When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." The list of geeta readers goes on to TESLA, OPPENHEIMER, SCHRODINGER, and a lot more. you can check out what other western scientists and philosophers say at www.atributetohinduism.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 all scientific theory leaves out the obvious; Creative Mind; the thought behind the big bang was the creative way in which universe came into existance; and there are many other dimensions besides this one, which we need to examine. Creative Mind is busy constantly becoming; it's a way of fulfilling its destiny; it must create and only doing so in many different dimensions does this creative process make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 all scientific theory leaves out the obvious; Creative Mind; the thought behind the big bang was the creative way in which universe came into existance; and there are many other dimensions besides this one, which we need to examine. Creative Mind is busy constantly becoming; it's a way of fulfilling its destiny; it must create and only doing so in many different dimensions does this creative process make any sense. email thomas fusselman@sbcglobal.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 i was passing to a readding along i fownd that, the devotees are talking about paramatma as it was atma just... and obiously them wont get any more feeling like being so so far a way of paramatma that way the worship is the only matter that enrich them unfleched hearts.. blind devotion makes me sick. !! And i dont mean to desrespect but in respect of what was said in the Uddhava.. is the same.. scriptures from the path of worship even worship the atma as if there is bhagavan but bhagavan has a body of his own, isn it? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Albert Einstein, (1879-1955) physicist. In 1905 He published his theory of Relativity. Einstein said: " When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." -- Jai.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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