jackmack Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Hari Bol i m boy of 24. previously i got impressed by Bhagvat gita. i had problem of bhamcharya since 10 years. i cldnt control myself. rightnow i m in europe for study and away from my home. i fall in relation with a girl. now i have not gud feelings with her but i cnt tell her. bcas i cnt bear if c gets hurt by me. i got so many bad feelings these days. i m not the same as i was before 6 months. since last 3 days i have suisidal thoughts. i think suiside is only way for me. my exams r very near. i cnt concentrate on my studies. i cnt stay alone. wat shld i do i dont know? i think i m getting reactions of my deeds. But i dont want to live this kind of life. I want to do something gud for tht girl and for my family. But i m not capable enough to do tht. I have been lying to her since long bcas i dont want to hurt her. Now pls get me the way to live and get rid of this problem. Jay shree Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 professional counselling with a trained therapist is a good way to begin with talking through your issues... they will accept your religious beliefs and encourage a honest and truthful resolution of your problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 talk with a consolur. If you are a student, most schools have some kind of student health program. You may get some encouragement and understanding from internet forums, but for help it is better to see a consolur who can asses your situation and recommend what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhaval_vishvatma Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Hello Jay, I am not a counselor, or a therapist, just another person who feels your hurt because I have been there. Suicide is not the way out. It seems like it would be the best solution at this time, but it's not. If you feel like you're not getting along well with your woman, than telling her is the best thing. I may sound a bit crude by saying this, but, if you can't love yourself, you can't love your woman or anything else. We are all one with the universal spirit. BE an expression of that spirit! Don't give in to fruitless thoughts of suicide! Death is inevitable, but the time of death usually is. Stay strong! Good luck on your exams! You are going to go places! Hare Krishna, Dhaval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Haribolo Jack Like most people have already said, you must seek professional help. None of us here (unless qualified) can help you. Just know this, suicide will not end your suffering. On the contrary, you will be forced to spend your time in an inescapable dimension and there your distress will be great. Get help & pray to Sri Sri Gaura Nitai for their mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 You have to sit down alone and find the root cause of your distress. Personally, I think this girl you want is the main problem. Seems like you are worried about how she would feel if you broke up with her. As of now, all you have to focus on are 1) Krishna, 2) your parents well-being and 3) your studies. forget everything else. Just chant Krishna's name and everything will work out. The ONLY professional help you need is Krishna. But remember, you have to be patient. Slowly things will resolve as your love for Krishna grows. Killing yourself is just a temporary solution. Solving the problem will give you new hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackmack Posted January 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 hi dhaval! thnx for reply............ actually my exams r on and rightnow i m not at the position to tell her about my condition. how shld i react i dont know? it can afffect my exams and studies. i know i have to be patient and strong enough to bear the condition. But rightnow i dont have guts to tell her. actually c is not from india. c is foreigner. u have told me tht u have been in the same situation. cant i love her or create feeling of love for her? I knw it is not logical or practical. I m broken emotionally. I want to give her my best. But i cldnt. i feel regret for tht. bye n have a nice time jay shree krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Haribol, Hang in there, suicide is never the answer. Read the following for a spiritual perspective. We all will pray for you. SpiritualScientist@, Spiritual Scientist Dear Friends, Suicide cases highlight gross imbalance in material and spiritual values.... Find out in the new Spiritual Scientist issue "Suicide - Why? What to do?" THE SPIRITUAL SCIENTIST A Cyber Magazine for Those Who Think Vol.3 No.20 SUICIDE – WHY? WHAT TO DO? The tragic suicide by three IIT students has jolted the whole nation. Equally alarming are the World Health Organization (WHO) statistics that over one million people commit suicide every year. This figure is more than the total annual deaths due to wars and murders combined. WHO calls this disturbing global trend - more people being killed by themselves than by others - a tragic social health problem. The Bhagavad-Gita (16.8-9) describes that spiritual ignorance and material infatuation are the cause of self-destructive mentality. Empirical findings vindicate the inverse correlation between spirituality and suicide. The spiraling suicide rate in recent times has been concomitant with the overemphasis on material pursuits and a corresponding rejection or neglect of spirituality. Sociological surveys show that spiritually minded people enjoy much better mental health than their materialistic counterparts. Suicide cases highlight the gross imbalance in material and spiritual values in contemporary society. When people lack spiritual knowledge, they naturally live for worldly goals. Their entire sense of identity and self-worth comes from the pursuit and achievement of materialistic aims such as wealth, sensual pleasure, possessions and positions. This narrow-minded definition of success in terms of material achievements lies at the root of suicidal thought. Why? Because people pursuing such goals will sooner or later be confronted with a situation where they will fail to gain or fear the failure to gain what they crave for. And similarly those who possess these things will be faced with situations where they lose or fear to lose what they live for. In such situations people become so identity-less and purpose-less that they feel life not worth living. And destroying one's very existence appears to be the only escape. For example, a student who considers getting top grades to be his life's only goal will feel euphoric on becoming a topper. But he is equally prone to be devastated if he fails. If he thinks that marks are the be-all and end-all in life, he may well consider his life a disgraceful failure and decide to end it. How can spirituality help in such a situation? The Bhagavad-Gita (14.4) helps us understand our eternal identity as spiritual beings, beloved children of God. The Gita recommends various spiritual practices – and especially the chanting of holy names () – as a practical means to help us experience the reality of God's love for us. When enlightened by the wisdom of Lord Krishna's words, our life becomes motivated and directed by a glorious purpose – to use all our abilities and resources in the service of God and all His children, to thus revive our dormant love for God and to share that treasure of peace and joy with all living beings. We become empowered by the conviction that even if everything goes wrong and everyone misunderstands us, still one person cares for us, understands us and stays unflinchingly with us at all times – God. Mahatma Gandhi has remarked about the potency of the Gita to offer solace amidst distress, "When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day." As we grow spiritually, we learn to tolerate and eventually transcend adversities. We see life in proper perspective – not as a 100 m sprint in pursuit of fleeting pleasures, but as a 100 km marathon in pursuit of everlasting joy. We learn to see reversals like storms during our journey of life. A storm certainly disrupts our plans, but it is not the end of the world. We find shelter and wait for the storm to pass, knowing it to be temporary. Never do we doubt that the storm may last perpetually. Similarly the Gita (2.14) guides us to tolerate difficulties knowing that they are temporary. At a higher level, we learn to work out of love for Krishna as a service to Him and see His loving hand in all the events of this world. Just as an intelligent child sees the love of the mother, not only in her pat, but also her slap, similarly the divine vision attained by understanding and living according to Krishna's words enables us to see His love, not only in times of success, but also in times of failure. Even amidst reversals, we see the road to eternal glory still beckoning us. Our failures then refine, and not define, us. Buoyed by the protecting and reassuring presence of God in our hearts and lives, we march confidently through the ups and downs of life. So as we pray for the souls of the unfortunate students who ended their own lives, let us also pray for the spiritual enlightenment of the numberless others who may be treading a similar path. Let us also strive to ourselves assimilate and disseminate spiritual wisdom and thus help people lead balanced, meaningful, peaceful and cheerful lives. ---------- Glimpses in to some of our previous articles of Spiritual scientist: Title: What is missing in modern education? ...In many schools in USA, metal detectors now screen every child before he enters 'the modern temple of learning'. Title: The Spiritual dimension of life ...on flight announcement,"I have good news and bad news. The good news is that we are going very fast and the bad news is that we don't know where we are going!" Title: Made Just For You ...Surveying the available evidence, George Smoot, Professor at the University of California at Berkely, states in unambiguous terms,"It's like looking at God". Title: Made For Each Other ...Thus modern science is slowly and painfully rediscovering what all the religious scriptures have been teaching since time immemorial: the living being and God are made for each other. To view previous articles, visit http://www.iskconpune.com/HTML/ss.html OR Download SS_old_issues.zip from SpiritualScientistBack%20Issues/ Invite your friends by requesting them to send an email to: SpiritualScientist-@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 jackmack... hey i know this is just a temporary solution for suicidal thoughts, but its not teh answer. U must tell her, if u do not love her. But honest with her. I know at times it can be hard, but telling her is the best bet.You will always be friends. I have been there in your shoes, but You must remain strong and vigilent on the task at hand and that is Krishna and yah studies. Krishna will help u get through teh most difficult of times. I know Krishna has guided me and krishna will guide you as well. take care. Dr kaush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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