Looking for Kalki Avtaar

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The Kalki(Krishna) avatar will appear in approx 230,000 years, but Krishna being The Supreme Person can come at ANY TIME! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

Re: Mohammed being Kalki avatar...NOPE NEVER.

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kalki is just arriving. his identity will not be known to the world. but he would fulfil all his responsibilities.

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Here is a Kalki link ; http://lifepositive.com/Spirit/spirit-centers/god.asp

 

I asked the one in the above article once if he was the Kalki Avatar and he responded something like "There are 800 Kalki's in India. 500 of them are in jail." And he laughed.

 

According to Hindu Paranic tradition the Kalki avatar closes Kali Yuga and ushers in a new age of peace prosperity and enlightenment. He is to liberate all of mankind from suffering (give enlightenment to all of mankind).

 

It is not evident that Mohammed pulled this off. Not even an iota. So much suffering has come down in his name. Where are all enlightened followers? Where is the peace? The prosperity? The Harmony?

 

 

Kalki first appeared in literature around the 3rd century bc as he was to unseat the wicked rulers who were indifferent to the priest caste of India and killing their own people. Pretty much refering to the cruel Moslem rulers who had invaded India and destroyed the temples..

 

I don't know about others but it seems to me in light of recent turn of events George Bush, has more of a well defined Kalki aspect than any holy men or prophets in that respect.

 

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That's 3rd century ad not bc

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jewish messianic prophecy

 

 

There is a school of thought that maintains that the Messiah

would not be a human being at all but the Lord himself.

In other words at the appointed time the Lord Himself would personally act to redeem His people.

Among that school of thought are the writers of such Apocryphal

works as the Sybilline Books(particularly the 3rd part),the Book of Henoch,the Psalms of Solomon,the Book of Jubilees,Ethiopians,the Book

of Baruch,And the later Apocryphal works such as the Ethical Wills of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob,the Twelve Tribes,Moses and Solomon.

 

"And the Messiah will sit in the yeShiva,....And Elijah of blessed memory will stand before Him as interpreter,And when He expounds,His voice goes from one end of the world to the other....

(Yemenite Midrash,pp 349-350)

 

The Holy One ,blessed be He said to Israel:"In this world I sent an angel to put to flight the nations of the world before you.

But in the Future to Come I Myself shall lead you and shall send

Elijah before you......"

(Midrash Tanhuma Mishpatim 18,end)

 

"At that time Michael the great celestial prince will rise and blow the shofar 3 times...And Messiah ben David(annointed of David) and

Elijah will be revealed.

And the 2 of them will go to Israel who will be in the desert of peoples,and elijah will say to them:"This is the Messiah".

And He will return to their heart[which will be faint] and will strengthen their hand...."

(T'fillat R.Shim'on ben yohai,Bet haMidrash)

(2:125)

 

 

 

in some jewish messianic prophecy there are to be two messiahs,

first Messiah ben Joseph(annointed one of joseph)

will be killed,then resurrected.

 

Second Messiah ben David, he will be the lord himself,

and will come at the earlier references i cited.

 

Jesus was joseph's son,he was killed,and resurrected.

 

But that messiah was prophecized to fail,only the second,will succeed.

 

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this explains where jesus was at,he was a nasorean,or essene,in greek,

misinterpreted as nazerene,and mistaken to mean he was from nazerath,(which did not exist at the time of jesus).

 

http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0200Mysticism.html#The%20Messiah%20and%20His%20Herald

 

this is around 3/4 the way down the article,

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Elijah is the Jewish superman whose name means “My God is Yehouah,” a mythical role model for the new God and his religion. He was also later to be seen as the forerunner of the Christian saints as a heavenly guide—a messenger of God who could appear in human form and would herald the coming messiah. Because he would appear again just before the eschaton, he would be the last of the prophets, although he was the first, and Moses, whose myth came later, was designated the first.

 

In Jewish tradition, according to Lewis Ginzberg in the Legends of the Jews, Elijah is to re-appear three days before the messiah to herald his coming. After lamenting over the devastation of the Holy land, he declares: “Now, peace will come to the land.” The next day he declares: “God will come to the land.” On the third day, his message is: “Salvation will come to the land.” The angel Michael then blows his trumpet and Elijah appears at last to announce the messiah.

 

It is a threefold tale that actually has four appearances by Elijah. The implication is that the messiah appears at the beginning of the fourth day. This is distinctly Persian and particularly Mithraic. In fact, the announcement on the third day sounds like the announcement of the messiah, who duly appears as soon as that day ends, heralded finally by the blast of Michael's trumpet. His purpose in blowing the trumpet is not that of a medieval herald. The blast is from the supernatural trumpet and destroys the corrupt world, providing for the raising of the dead for judgement and the inauguration of the incorruptible eternal world that Jesus called “the kingdom of God"

 

Michael is the messiah! Michael in the scriptures is the face of God, just as Mithras seemed to have been for Ahuramazda. The second announcement by Elijah is that “God will come to the land.” After that the messiah is announced, so God is the messiah, and he appears in the form of the angel Michael.

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here's some more from the article

 

Metatron, Michael, Melchizedek, Messiah

 

Who said:

 

And he said to Moses, Go up to Yehouah?

 

Accoring to Talmud Sanhedrin 38b, it was Metatron. According to Targum Jonathan, it was Michael. Metatron is the angel that Enoch became in heaven, confirming that Jesus was expected to have an angelic heavenly form—that of Michael. But since Metatron is Michael, it follows that Jesus is Enoch! In the Hebrew Book of Enoch, Metatron is the Lesser Yehouah. He is a heavenly scribe who registers the deeds of men in the Book of Life. He is also the heavenly High Priest and the heavenly advocate of Israel. Michael has the same functions and is the angel of Yehouah, in whose name God resides (Ex 23:21).

 

Much of the Dead Sea Scrolls is visionary and reminiscent of the Qabalah. Among the parallels is that between the Metatron of Qabalah and the Melchizadek at Qumran. The Heavenly Melchizedek (11Q13) shows Melchizedek exalted over all angels. Melchizedek is the head of the “sons of heaven” or “gods of justice” and has the titles “Elohim” and “El” normally reserved for God. Isaiah's messiah is Melchizedek, because the pesher on Isaiah 61:2 identifies “the anointed one” with Melchizedek. In 4Q521, the one “anointed” by Yehouah in Isaiah 61:1-2 is the Messiah:

 

For the heavens and the earth shall listen to His Messiah.

 

Melchizedek presides over a heavenly assize and, with angelic assistance, punishes Belial, his demons and the wicked. He is the heavenly Judge. Since Melchizedek is “a priest forever” (Gen 14:8; Psalms 110:4), the sectaries saw Melchizedek as the high priest of the heavenly temple, and identified him with the archangel Michael, also the heavenly high priest. Parallels between the heavenly Melchizedek of Qumran and the Metatron of 3 Enoch also stand out. Both are exalted among the angels, both are heavenly judges, and both apparently had earthly lives, before their exaltation to their heavenly states, as Enoch.

 

and on and on and on and on...........................capisce ?

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Name That Messiah!

Global Messianic Expectations as Millennium Approaches

 

The Christian Messiah: Second Coming of Jesus Christ - When? End of Tribulation, War of Armageddon, defeats antichrist, rules the Earth 1000 years from Jerusalem Revelation 21 Millennial Kingdom

The Islamic Messiah: (Orthodox Sunnis) Muntazar: The successor to Mohammed who at the 'end of time' will unite the races of the world through understanding.

The Aztec/Mayan Messiah: The return of Quetzalcoatl -- an olive-skinned man with a white beard and followers in red.

The Sioux Messiah: A man in a red cloak coming from the East.

The Indonesian Messiah: the twelfth-century Indonesian prophet, Djojobojo, foresaw the coming of a great Spiritual King from the West to come after the Dutch and Japanese occupations, and what sounds like the severe end of the rule of Indonesian dictatiors, Sukarno and Suharto.

The Hopi Messiah: Pahana the 'true white brother' from the East will wear a red cap and cloak and bring two helpers holding the sacred symbols: The swastika, the cross and the power symbol of the Sun. He will restore the Hopi Indian version of the Dharma.

The Buddhist mainstream Messiah: Maitreya - Meaning either 'The World Unifier' or simply 'The Friend.' A very human God-Man whom Buddha predicted will be a greater Buddha than himself.

The Mahayana Buddhist Messiah: Amida: A great Christ - like Bodhisattva.

The Japanese Messiah: Several sects of Japanese Buddhism and Shintoism foresee a variant of the Buddhist Maitreya appearing after 8 August 1988 (8/8/88).

The Maori Messiahs: Over a dozen Maori cheiftains in New Zealand from the nineteenth through the early twentieth centuries have laid claim to the title.

The Messiah of Central Asian nomads: The White Burkhan. He will come when the people of the steppes have abandoned their ancient gods (Communist Russia was atheist). He will come to offer them and the entire human race a spiritual rebirth.

The Jewish Messiah: "The" (sic) Messiah. The true messenger of Yahweh, the god of the jews, who will restore them to their status as the Chosen People. Know = his time has come when Israel is restored and the temple of Solomon is rebuilt (interest in rebuilding the temple is at an all-time high during the 1990s)

The Hindu Messiah: Kalki or Javada: The ninth and last Avatar of this yuga cycle. His final incarnation will appear from the West.

The Shiite Messiah: The twelfth Imam: The final religious leader of the Shiite sect of Islam. He has never died but will reappear beside Jesus prior to Judgement Day to complete the Holy Qur'an (Koran).

The Sufi Messiah: Khidr, the mysterious guide of the Islamic spiritual underground. He is the Sufi's version of the Shiite twelfth Imam and Muntazar of the Sunnis.

The Zoroastrian Messiah: Saoshyant: Like Zarathustra, he's scheduled to come at the Zoroastrian twelfth millennium (AD 2000)

The Eskimo Messiah: the prophets of the Arctic foresee him to be an olive-skinned man with long beard and white hair who comes from the East.

 

The World Uniter

 

'As time goes by, human after human will contribute to the growth of the Uniter. The Uniter is in opposition to the old thought and its ability to limit love. But the old thought was necessary for the new to be born [or, the necessary manure for the flowering]. Everything is a oneness. All the new is not really new. All this has been spoken before by different masters of different times, but it is only now in this new time that it will be understood that it will be lived. Together all of you who are listening to this are the body of the Uniter, the body and the limbs. Together you are the new thought of the the time.' Ambres

'Man has lived a long time the way he has lived [violently and unconsciously]. By the end of this century, a critical quantum leap is possible. Either man will die in a third world war or man will take a jump and will become a new man. Before that happens, a great Buddhafield is needed - a field where we can create the future.' Osho (1977)

'Tuning into a fully developed Master Field, where all these evolutionary processes have already taken place, permits those changes to be magnified and quickened or, in effect, lived into that system without its having to pass through certain of the of the processes associated with the individual struggle to evolve.' Da Avabhasa

 

'In the old days, evil things spead rapidly, but now good things spread rapidly. If you understand ... everything begins to appear wonderful and beautiful, and it naturally makes people stop wasting or stop desiring unnecessary things. This awakening is contagious and it will be transmitted to everybody soon.' Tamo-san

 

Excerpts from: The Millennium Book of Prophecy by John Hogue: Visions and Predictions from Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Gurdjieff, Tamo-san, Madame Blavatsky, the Old and New Testament Prophets and 89 others.

 

The Great Purification Omega Point :dimitri@intac.com The Hopi elders speak of prior human epochs when man rose to great technological heights only to destroy himself. They believe it will happen again unless humans change. Variations on the theme of Noah's Flood run through the legends of nearly all ancient peoples. Equally common as the deluge myth is this additional forewarning: The next global house-cleaning will be by fire.

 

Before the time of the great Purification, they will make metal roads for iron horses and hang metal ropes in the air.

First they will bring back pieces of the Moon which will upset the balance and unleash disastrous forces. Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky. The Purification will begin shortly after humans build a great house in the sky. By then there will be fires everywhere and greedy, selfish, power-mad leaders, internal wars.

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Commmonnnn....hez noooo GOD.

If hez God, Why is he surrounded by security guards??????

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Don't Say a word abt Kalki

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not a smart search.

krishna as given gita.

gita has everything to solve our problems.

so why look for kalki?

 

also, remember:

god helps those who help - do god's work.

 

to say, "oh god, you do this for me, i will not do anything," is coping out, not good.

 

jai sri krishna!

 

 

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Kalki.... why it became important subject? What r u going to do if u meet with this avatar?

What u will request from him? Are u dare to put yourself in

temptation which u may lose ur happy life?

If you not dare to leave those thing then stop talking about who is Kalki!!!

 

If really what to know.... MEDITATE to find out!!!!

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A lot of what you just said is clearly stretching to make connections with Mohammed. And yet, it's quite clear that there is no peace in this world, nor enlightenment for the masses despite Mohammed's appearance, and yet that's what is supposed to happen with the Kalki avatar. Besides that, you go on and say that Mohammed, a prophet, is an avatar. Prophet does not mean avatar. A prophet is a messenger FROM God. He is not God himself. Kalki is supposed to be God himself come down to Earth.

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I have been a devotee of Sri Mukteshwara (Kalki) Bhagavan from 1993, just after the inception of the organization, then called Anugraha Trust.

 

I have had profound mystical experiences and there are certain things that have happened in my life which are inexplicable by a rational mind. Even my family members who resisted in accpeting Him, stand in awe. He is certainly a Supreme Master(Guru).

 

In my opinion, instead of arguing who is Kalki and when he is coming, let's channel that energy inwards to try and discover Him.

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Dear Kalki Devotees,

 

I am enclosing information on a Triyaham to be performed in Dubai, UAE on February 20, 2004. I have been sent 5 tickets for this homam. I will be buying one ticket for myself and my family. So, I have 4 tickets @$139 per ticket.

This is only for those devotees who believe in Kalki Bhagavan.

 

Please let me know by email (shenoyanil@hotmail.com) if any of you are interested in buying these tickets. The details of the proceedings from the Triyaham are also explained below. Your contributions for the tickets can be sent to me before 2/18/04 along with the information required which is also explained below. I will provide my information to you only if you are interested.

 

The details that were forwarded to me are as follows:

 

When we live so far from India, an opportunity to participate in a Havan comes by very, very rarely. Havans are an ancient ritual that has come to us from our scriptures, the Vedas, which are believed to be over 5000 years old. The knowledge of these rituals was given as revelations to the sages of those times as they sat in deep

meditation and in communion with the Supreme Consciousness.

 

The Vedas talk about one Supreme Consciousness that we call "God" in generic terms, and many different deities that can be invoked for a specific purposes. For instance, the deity Ganesha can be invoked for the purpose of removal of obstacles from our lives. These deities are nothing but very positive energies that manifest themselves from the cosmos. Furthermore, as we already know, the Universe is

a collection of energies that is known to science. The galaxies, the planets, the stars, are all energies on massive scales. The Earth is a collection of a huge amount of matter which is nothing but a potential form of energies. And it does not stop there; we human beings are also energies and we as energies, can be affected by both positive and negative energies.

If we have chronic health problems, have severe financial difficulties, have academic issues, etc, within the family then it obviously means that we have been affected by negative energies. There are several reasons why these

negative energies manifest in our lives; it could be due to Karma or even due to our thoughts themselves. One of the easiest ways of dispelling such negative energies is by bringing in huge amounts positive energies into our

lives. Havans are one of the easiest means of doing so.

 

Havans are based on three major principles:

1.Life is death; and death and life. Nothing is born without something dying. Positive energy cannot be "born" without something dying.

2.Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; it can only be changed from one form to another. All of the energy in the Universe in constant. Again this is an extension of the previous principle, which implies that in order to invoke positive energies, some other form of energy has to be

destroyed. This is done in the "engine" of the Havan where the fire is lit; this is where energy conversion takes place.

3.The Microcosm is in the Macrocosm, and the Macrocosm is in the Microcosm. The Microcosm is the inner world where our dreams are born. It is that little spark deep within us that gets us to dream, imagine, visualize and fantasize and finally make those dreams comes true. Our physical world

where the dreams come true is the Macrocosm. For instance, we had dreamed years and years ago that we need to go out of our country and live abroad to improve our standard of living, and save some money. We cherish this dream for years and then one day things fell into place and the dream manifested.

The secret of the Havans is that the transformation from the Microcosm (dream) to the Macrocosm (reality) is accelerated; so it no longer takes year, but takes weeks, days, and sometimes just hours.

 

For more information on Havans please visit http://www.havans.org <http://www.havans.org>

 

The Triyaham is a set of three Havans that will be conducted in Dubai, U.A.E. on Friday, 20th Februray for a team of highly experienced "Dasaji's". The three Havans are:

 

1.Vidya Havan. Dedicated to Goddess Saraswati, this is mainly for enhancement in academics for children. Not just for children, this Havan also helps grown-ups improve their concentration and memory powers.

2.Dhanawantri Havan. Dedicated to Lord Dhanawantri, who is supposed be the personal doctor of Lord Vishnu himself. This Havan is for curing all kinds of chronic health problems that usually do not go away with our standard medicines. Aches in different parts of the body, migraine attacks, cancer, strokes, etc. all originate in our other five bodies that do not exist in the three dimensions that science knows. It is only positive cosmic energies that can identify such problems and cure them.

3.Lakshmi Kubera Havan. Dedicated to Goddess Mahalakshmi, the Goddess of Wealth, and Lord Kubera the "Treasurer" of the Heavens. While Goddess Lakshmi gives us the wealth, it is the energies of Lord Kubera that helps us to maintain the wealth.

 

Participation in the Triyaham does not need one's physical presence though it is the ideal thing. Each individual is

identified by his/her full name (first-name father's-name/husband's-name family-name), his/her birth star (nakshatra) and his/her Hindu zodiac sign (rashi); these are his/her co-ordinates in this Universe. When the Havan is

conducted, each individual's name is chanted along with a Mantra so that he/she receives the grace regardless of his/her location in the Universe. If you do not know your nakshtra and rashi, then please visit

http://www.scientificastrology.com <http://www.scientificastrology.com> -->

Click Free Vedic Charts (English) --> Click INDIA or USA as the appropriate place of birth and it will give you the nakshatra and rashi. We need the nakshatra and rashi of just one principal participant in every family, though we will need the names of all the members of the family and their relationship with the principal participant.

 

When this Triyaham was conducted in Dubai on May 16th 2003, one lady by the name Preetha Rathnakaran had a major medical

miracle in her life. Preethaji and her husband had a only child and they were trying to have the second one. Over the years, though she had conceived she would have a mis-carriage and lose the baby in the fourth or fifth month

of pregnancy. Doctors had identified that since her blood group was B Rh -ve, and her husband's was Rh +ve, this was a well-documented medical condition where the fetus was being rejected by the mother's body assuming it to be some sort of an infection by producing anti-bodies. Preethji had to regularly visit the hospital to receive what are known as Anti-D injections to neutralize the anti-bodies produced by the mother's body. Even then the chances of a normal pregnancy term and an normal delivery and a normal child

are very rare. When Preethaji participated in the Triyaham she had just one prayer, "I want to have this child that is in me now, and it has to be a normal delivery, and a normal child with no risk to either the child or to

myself."

Soon after the Triyaham, Preethaji went for her regular medical checkup and blood-test and the doctors were dumb-founded when then saw the blood report. They found that Preethaji's blood type had changed spontaneously from B Rh -ve to B Rh +ve. Suddenly there was no need for her to take to those Anti-D injections and this was a normal, no risk

pregnancy. Preethaji completed her normal course of pregnancy, had a normal delivery and the mother and daughter, who is now about 5 months old, are both fine. This is the extent to which Miracles can happen through the

powers of Havans.

 

Charges for participation in the Triyaham are US$139 per family for all the three Havans. The following deliverables

will be given to each family as a keep-sake, bless by the proceedings of the Havans:

 

1.Miniature set of silver Padukas. Keeping this in the prayer area is the equivalent of the Divine Presence in the house.

2.Dhana-aakarshana Yantra. A Yantra is a copper plate with

inscriptions on it and is the visual representation of a mantra. According to the Vedas, just looking at the dhana-aakarshana Yantra will generate wealth in the family

3.A set of protection (raksha) threads to be worn on the wrist of each member of the participating family for protection against future negative events with respect to academics, health and wealth.

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I am sorry I read this so late!

Please give any fedback from any that have received the mukti diksha from Bhagavan.

 

Thanks!

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Goodness is God..God is great....!

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I know kalki avtaar. i u want to know than please visit on

www.goharshahi.com or contact - 9819249709

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Jai Shri Krishna!

 

In Srimad Bhagavtam it says KRishna (God) has innumerable incarnations like the rivulets flowing from many sources of water (SB 1.3.26).

The last avataar of the main list of 10 incarnations will come in end of kali-yuga which is in more than 400,000 years. But in this age o kali-yuga Krishna has been so merciful to personally come and display the sankirtan yagya (sacrifice by chanting of holy names) and how we should all become devotees. He has incarnated 500 years ago in bengal as Chaitanya Mahaprabhu or Gauranga.

There are 100s of refernces in scriiptures such as puranas and bhagavtam. When God says himself that he will come and incarnate as Chaiytanya mahaprabhu and even Lord Shiv when talking to Parvati meantions it in various occasions.

 

So we should have faith in vedic scriptures, words of God and learn about His incarnation that has come in this age to teach us the true dharma of kali-yuga: sankirtan.

You can leanr by reading more about Him in various book like Chaitanya Charitamrita and other Swami Prabhupadas books, also at

krishna.org.

 

Chant Chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare and BE HAPPY.

 

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Is buddha an Avtar of Vishnu?

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why not instead go looking for Vishnu who is in your heart.

 

make yourself so nice that Lord wants you to see him.

 

read katha and mundaka sruti, atman only shows its form to those whom it chooses.

 

and read corresponding VS, which says mukti is achieved on seeing form of Lord. and election of Lord is not arbitrary but based on actuall progress made by a sincere seeker.

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yes

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You are out of your mind man!!!

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kalki awwtar is present in this world he has a power of jointness so he is joining all the religion his name is riaz gohar shahi (WWW.GOHARSHAHI.COM)

KAMRAN

kamransq@hotmail.com

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Paranic Hundu tradition considers him 2 b the ninth avatar of Vishnu.

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Buddha is considered as a avtar of Lord Vishnu since Shri Shankaracharya time. It seems that Shri Shakaracharya has accepted him so.

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Kalki Avatar is present in this world in the minds of the fanatical blind followers of adharma...

 

there are a majority of people, who are called SANE, and they think, sorry know, that kalki will only come after 427,000 years...

 

guru-sadhu-sastra confirms this perfectly...