Tarun Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Can you 10 names for the Sun King or Sun God. (zlokas above) AdityaH savitA sUryaH khagaH puSA gabhAstimAn | suvarna-sadRzaH bhAnuH hiraNya-retAH divAkaraH || yac caxur eSa savitA sakala-grahANAm... Now let's jump to 10th Canto (my favorite activity) Remember, this section is for aprakrta-sahajiyas only; all others are hereby cautioned to go elsewhere. Some vocabulary and grammar questions down below sentence 19. ******* BhAgavata-kathA ******* BhAgavat Recital******* 1) mathurA-nagare ugrasenaH iti rAjA AsIt | MathurA in city Ugrasena named/quoted king was. In MathurA town there was a king named Ugrasena. 2) tasya kaMsaH iti putraH, devakI iti putrI ca abhavatAm | His (of him) Kamsa named son, DevakI named daughter and became/were. His son and daughter were named Kamsa and Devaki. 3) kaMsaH krUraH, rAxasa guNa sahitaz ca | Kamsa cruel man-eater quality possess and/also. Kamsa was cruel/wicked and possessed demoniac qualities. 4) saH bhaginyAH vivAhaM vasudevena saha akArayat | He sister wedding by Vasudev with celebrated. He celebrated his sister's marriage with Vasudev. 5) tau dampatI rathe upavezya kaMsaH svayaM rathaM acAlayat | both of them, 2, couple in/on chariot seated Kamsa himself chariot drove. Kamsa seated couple in chariot and he himself drove chariot. 6) madhye mArgaM, 're kaMsa! tava bhaginyAH aSTamaH garbhaH tvAM haniSyati' iti azirIri-zabdaM kaMsaH azRNot | In middle road, 'Oh Kamsa, your sister's 8th pregnancy/child you shall kill' quote unembodied sound/voice heard. Midway, Kamsa heard an oracle say 'Hey Kamsa, your sister's 8th child will kill you.' 7) etat zrutvA kaMsa: bhaginIM, vasudevaM ca kArAgrhe nyaxipat | this having heard, Kamsa sister Vasudev and in prison kept. Having heard this, Kamsa kept his sister and Vasudev in prison. 8) devakyAH putrAn jAtamAtrAn kaMsaH jaghAn | DevakI's sons born-time Kamsa killed. Kamsa killed DevakI's sons as they were born. 9) aSTama-garbhe jAtaM putraM vasudevaH kaMsabhayAt nanda-gopa-grhaM prApayati sma | 8th womb/pregnancy in/during born son Vasudev Kamsa-fear from took/carried From fear of Kamsa, Vasudev carried 8th son to Nandagopa's home. 10) tatra balarAma kRSNau avardhatAm | There BalarAm Krsna with grew/increased There BalarAm and KRSNa grew up. 11) kaMsaH tau hantuM rAxasAn prauSayat | Kamsa both to kill man-eaters sent. Kamsa sent Raxakas to kill them both. 12) pUtanA zakaTA sura prabhRtIn rAxasAn sarvAn rAmakRSNau amArayatAm | PUtanA zakaTa demon man-eaters all RAma Krsna both killed. RAma and KRSNa killed PUtanA, ZakaTa and all other RAxasas. 13) zrI kRSNaH svamAtulaM kaMsaM amArayat| ZrI KRSNa his maternal uncle Kamsa killed. ZrI KRSNa ended his maternal uncle's life. 14) pazcAt zizupAla-dantavaktrAdIn bahUn rAxasAz ca ahanat | From then ZizupAl Dantavaktra etcetera many RAxasas too killed. Thereafter He killed many RAxasas like ZizupAl and Dantavaktra. 15) zrI kRSNaH rukmiNI satyabhAmAdikAH aneka-sahasra-sankhyAkaH strIyaH upayeme | ZrI KRSNa RukminI SatyabhAmA like not only one thousand numbering women married. ZrI KRSNa married many thousands of women like RukminI, SatyabhAmA 16) saH pANDavAnAM sAhAYYaM akarot | He among Pandavas help made. He helped Pandavas. 17) saH arjunasya sArathyAm api akarot | He of Arjun charioteer even made/served. He served as Arjun's charioteer. 18) arjunaH bhArata-yuddhe duryodhanAdIn bahun duSTAn amArayat | Arjun in BhArata battle Duryodhan like many dirty killed. In BhArata war, Arjun killed many criminals like Duryodhan. 19) evaM bahUn durjanAn hatvA bhUbhAraM aharat | Certainly many wicked having killed Earth burden he removed. Thus having rid/killed many bad guys, He rid Earth's burden. ? In 3, rAxasa guNa sahitaz ca? ? In 5, someone please explain acAlayat. ? In 7, nyaxipat? ? In 8, jAtamAtrAn? ? in 9, prApayati sma? ? In 12, prabhRtIm? ? In 14, someone please explain pazcAt, dantavaktrAdIn, AdIn, upayeme? ? In 15, someone please explain sankhyAyAH, upayeme. One MathurA-mantra vasudeva-sutaM devaM, kaMsa cANUra mardanam | devakI-paramAnandaM, KRSNaM vande jagad-gurum || Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 MahAbhArata-kathA = Ancient Earth/India History 1) hastinApure dhRtarASTraH pANDuH iti dvau bhrAtarau avartetam | 2) dhRtarASTraH andhaH, pANDuH pANDu-rogI | 3) jyeSThaH dhRtarASTraH kaniSThAya pANDave ardha-rAjyaM ayacchat | 4) dhRtarASTrasya duryodhanAdayaH zataM putrAH abhavan | 5) pANDoH dharmarAjaH, bhImasenaH, arjunaH, nakulaH, sahadevaH iti panca tanayAH Asan | 6) draupadI pANDavAnAM dharma-patnI AsIt | 7) duryodhanaH dyUtena pANDavAnAM rAjyaM apAharat | 8) rAjya-bhraSTAH pANDavAH draupadyA saha vanaM agacchan | 9) te vane bahUni kaSTAni anvabhavan | 10) dvAdaza-varSa paryantaM te vane nyavasan | 11) trayodaze varSe ajnAta-vAsaM virATa-nagare akurvan | ? In 1, avartetAm means? ? In 5, tanayAH means? ? In 7, apAharat means? ? In 8, rAjya-bhraSTAH means? ? In 9, kaSTAni anvabhavan? ? In 10, paryantaM nyavasan? ? In 11, akurvan means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 ... [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-09-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 CCji: no one knows Sanskrt; everyone knows Sanskrt. It's a gradual process, step by step. Just a question of trying, leaning forward ever so slightly. I may know more than someone, Jagatji knows more than I do, someone else knows more than he does. Differences don't inhibit any one individual's progress. That's KRSNa/MAyA's test to see whether we're looking inside or outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 http://www.americansanskrit.com/athome/athome.html [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-09-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear CCji, Good. Then maybe you can explain to us all the 24th and 1/2 syllable which almost caused ZrIla VizvanAth Cakravarti ThAkur's suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 "Gauracandra, if you do order stuff from Vyaasa Houston, let us know whether you find it useful. Jagat" If anyone has ordered materials from American Sanskrit then please tell the forum what you think of it. ? ? <CC> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 http://www.americansanskrit.com/athome/sbc.html SBC = Sanskrit By Cassette. If anyone has bought Part 1 please let the forum know what you think of the product because I have not received an email reply from the company as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 They are slow. [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-13-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 19, 2001 Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 CCji: Have u checked with your local libraries yet? Our Queens Central Library has an 8 cassette Sanskrt course. If u can borrow, why buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 I do not believe AMerican Sanksrit is a bona-fide organization. [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-20-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 Good point T. D.A.S I will check with the big one in Merrivile. Thanks for the Reminderji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitanyachandra Posted October 20, 2001 Report Share Posted October 20, 2001 You can learn Sanksrit via the books of the Goswamis. There is one samhita bye J. Goswami that teaches Sanksrit through Hari-nama. On VNN.org, I believe the user Jagat stated that he created a learning package based on this. If this is true, maybe he can share his thoughts on that. [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-20-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASH Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 “ What is Truth ?” “What’s the path to it ? “ 1 500 bce Sankhya - Kapila - analyse/understand existence/nature in term of 25 tattvas, purush, prakriti, guna, sattva, rajas, tamas, bhog, dharma, artha, kaam, moksh, 4 purushartha; 526 sutras in 6 chapters (164, 47, 84, 32, 129, 70) 2 200 bce Yoga - Patanjali - control movements of consciousness 3 400 bce Vedanta - Badarayana - understand what’s in Upanishads and Aranyakas at “end”, anta, of the Vedas rather than the hymns and ritual portions of the Vedas 4 300 bce Nyaya - Gautama - use logic and reasoning correctly 5 300 bce Vaiseshika – Kanada – analyse/understand existence/nature in term of 9 parts (dravyas) earth, water, light, air, ether, time, space, soul and mind 6 200 bce Mimasa - Jaimini - perform rites in the Vedas correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASH Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 http://shikshanic.nic.in/cd50years/u/45/3Z/Toc.htm REPORT OF THE SANSKRIT COMMISSION 1956-57 Table of Contents INTRODUCTION HISTORICAL RETROSPECT THE PRESENT SITUATION SANSKRIT AND THE ASPIRATIONS OF INDEPENDENT INDIA SANSKRIT EDUCATION TEACHING OF SANSKRIT SANSKRIT RESEARCH MANUSCRIPTS SANSKRIT UNIVERSITY OTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING SANSKRIT ADMINISTRATION AND ORGANISATION OF SANSKRIT EDUCATION AND RESEARCH CONSPECTUS AND RECOMMENDATIONS EPILOGUE APPENDIX I : GOVERNMENT RESOLUTION APPOINTING THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS OF COMMITTEES APPOINTED BY VARIOUS STATES QUESTIONNAIRE LIST OF INSTITUTIONS ON WHOSE BEHALF REPLIES TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE WERE SENT LIST OF INDIVIDUALS WHO SENT REPLIES TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE LOG-BOOK INSTITUTIONS VISITED BY THE COMMISSION INSTITUTIONS WHOSE REPRESENTATIVES GAVE ORAL EVIDENCE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS WHO GAVE ORAL EVIDENCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makhanmisri Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Originally posted by jndas: Hindi did not exist 5,000 years ago, and certainly had nothing to do with Krishna. Brij bhash today has been influenced by many other languages, as have all Indian languages. This seems a rather harsh dismissal. It's possible to arbitrate a "pure" Braja-bhasha if one takes the medieval poetry for which that language is best known as one's ideal. It's also true that some of the most notable medieval Gaudiya Vaishnavas (including those from distant Tamil Nadu) chose to adopt Braj as their vehicle of devotional expression. Most employed Braja-buli instead, but one could just as easily dismiss that, as it's also a new Indo-Aryan language. The six gosvamis and others wrote in Sanskrit, and it's a good question, to ask why they almost exclusively did so even though everyone around them was writing in Braj. Anyone have any theories about this? Thanks, Mukunda Datta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasa Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Originally posted by makhanmisri: This seems a rather harsh dismissal. It's possible to arbitrate a "pure" Braja-bhasha if one takes the medieval poetry for which that language is best known as one's ideal. It's also true that some of the most notable medieval Gaudiya Vaishnavas (including those from distant Tamil Nadu) chose to adopt Braj as their vehicle of devotional expression. Most employed Braja-buli instead, but one could just as easily dismiss that, as it's also a new Indo-Aryan language. The six gosvamis and others wrote in Sanskrit, and it's a good question, to ask why they almost exclusively did so even though everyone around them was writing in Braj. Anyone have any theories about this? Thanks, Mukunda Datta dasa Dear Makhanmisri, I did not see that original quote by jndas in this thread. Could you tell me which thread it came from. It may not matter, but i wanted to see in what context the idea was presented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makhanmisri Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Originally posted by dasa: Dear Makhanmisri, I did not see that original quote by jndas in this thread. Could you tell me which thread it came from. It may not matter, but i wanted to see in what context the idea was presented. Sorry, it's from a long time ago (6/17/01). Observing that cponversational Sanskrit is rather rare and difficult, Talasiga asked why one wouldn't just learn Radha and Krsna's language. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agni Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Namaste! Sanskrit: A complete course for beginners by Michael Coulson is one of the books I am using as well. I have the revised edition [revised by Gombrich and Benson]. I have spotted errors in the revised parts! You can tell which parts are revised by the font, so every time I bump into one of these sections, I get a little skeptical. *sigh* So I go to several other sources and compare notes. Examples: page 28 under Class I where they attempt to spell "shuc" they end up spelling "shrucri"... page 29 where they attempt "likh" they forget the viraama... It is really a shame because it seems like Coulson did a great job on his own. I really wish I could find someone to teach me in person, one on one. /ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif Anyway, I am glad I found this forum. I have learned much from you guys already! [Note: I am using ASTHA transliteration for HTML] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted August 9, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I agree that learning one on one is best. I was studying for a while with a south Indian brahmin, but he eventually had to move on (he was a computer programmer) to another city/project. I'm sure there must be university courses you an take part time. I just find that I don't learn that well just by reading a book. Especially for something like language. In the past I've studied Russian and French. But now I realize I should have studied something like Latin. Atleast this way you know something unique if not particularly useful (since I don't use french or russian, usefulness isn't very important). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agni Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Hehe... I took Latin! It is very useful. Did you know that English is 60% Latin, particularly vocabulary? But it is still considered a Germanic language primarily because of sentence structure and grammar. And it is used so much in science, medicine and law... Latin, though called a "dead language" is very much alive and well /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted August 10, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 I think this being the case that Latin should definitely be taught in schools. Most kids will not learn a language and ever have a chance to apply it (French, German etc...) But if they learn latin, then atleast this will likely assist them on their SATs, help build vocabulary etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agni Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 That was exactly my reasoning /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 but then = pariNAme 'mRtopamam = poison became NEKTAR, THUS PROVING ONCE AGAIN = tat sukham sAttvikaM proktam Atma-buddhi-prasAda-jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 http://www.samskrita-bharati.org/ I met Charu Bhave two weeks ago at McGill. A charming lady who has become something of a Sanskrit missionary. They have developed Sanskrit language teaching materials that resemble most spoken second language courses. The goal is speaking Sanskrit, but of course, that leads to the ability to read, etc. It's a good way for someone who wants to learn in a more natural way, rather than the dead classical language style that is usually used. Jagat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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