hindu/muslim

[Guest guest]

<<our koran teaches us that not to call a kaafir a kaafir cause u dont know when he becomes a beliver and belives in one and only allah. >>

 

the history of islam tells the world

when one says one believe in allah.

 

it is when the barbaric hoards of muslims come, loot, plunder, rape, slaughter, destroy temples, and convert by the force of sword.

 

another way one believes in allah is when a muslim produces many childen like pigs and then never gives the children a chance to stoudy various religions and allow them to choose one that they think is best.

 

the other thing muslims do is that

when a muslim chooses to quit islam, he/she is killed

by the authority of koran.

 

for 1200 years the muslims have tried real hard and brutally to kill hinduism.

it is a great wonder that they have failed to do so.

 

why?

 

there is some lesson to learn for the muslims,

and for the hindus (hare krishnas included) too.

 

jai sri krishna!

 

[I_love_krishna_]

Its true, they were killing people so that they can convert others through fear. However, now what they are trying to do is live peacefully.

 

Give them a break! they are not barbaric hordes going around killing people anymore. (with the exception of lunatics like Osama bin ladin or Hamas etc).

 

Most of them are good people, and just because 1 guy out of 100 is a lunatic, that does not mean every single one of them is bad! .

 

 

[Guest guest]

<<Most of them are good people, and just because 1 guy out of 100 is a lunatic, that does not mean every single one of them is bad! . >>

 

yes, good, simply because they are not practicing islam fully as given in koran, intentionally (waiting for a right oppertunity) or by ignorance.

 

however,

 

- their donatuions go to support terrorism (knowingly or unknowingly.)

 

- what they learn from mulas and imams is terrorism.

 

- they have chosen islam simply because their parents were muslims, or because saudis's gave them money.

 

- they are not doing anything to stop the muslim terrorists.

after 9/11 no muslim country was unhappy about the terrorism. some were celebrting it.

 

you cannot make a cobra venomless by befriending it.

you cannot make a muslims straight (free form aggresive terrorist mentality) without force.

sheer force they respect, and that only they respect.

 

thanks to bush saudis and musharaff are not checking islamists.

 

bush did what gandhi could not do.

the game has just started.

it will take years before the roots of terrorism are burntet away.

 

the whoe history if islam in india

says to the world ( if you can read it):

 

"never trust a muslim."

 

it is very difficult to find a muslim who would debate rationally. an example: a muslim lady wanted her DMV id picture taken with burkha. she (and all muslims) always want their separete law (sharia), no matter where they live.

 

koran does not recognize democracy.

 

jai sri krishna!

 

[gHari]

It is only because they do not know Allah, that they ridicule Krsna and Hinduism. If they knew Allah they would know that He is Krsna. Knowing God, it is very obvious that He is The One, the one who is described in the Vedic scriptures as Bhagavan Sri Krsna. It is He who is all mighty. It is He who is all compassionate. It is He who is all magnificent. He is the Primal Person, from whom everything else manifests.

 

All we can do is encourage them to follow their religion sincerely. They will only distance themselves more and more from Allah if they continue to deride Him. Because they have turned away from Allah, they challenge and attack Him. They are too cowardly to do so knowingly, yet with darkened hearts, unknowingly they spit in His face, and pave the way to Hell.

 

May Allah be merciful to all of them, and fill their hearts with genuine love for Him.

 

There is no God but God, and He can speak Arabic, Sanskrit, Aramaic, and Hebrew; possessing unlimited names and no name at the same time. May He who JUST IS extend His mercy to them as they worship Him in their natural tongue as Allah. Only their spiritual advancement will protect the world from the disaster we now face.

 

gHari

[Guest guest]

<<It is only because they do not know Allah,>>

 

ghari prabhu,

 

with all the respect for you i ask you:

have you understood allah and his message from koran?

i do not think so.

 

i am sure there will be some good messge in koran,

but that is not coausing terrorism.

it is the ohter part of koran

that generates terrorists and fantics.

 

to say to the non muslims that the muslims do not know allah

does not help anyone.

 

if you know allah just like krishna,

then you need to preach it to the muslims and terrorits in madresas and mosques. you allow muslims to enter krishna temples, but they do not allow you to enter a mosque or mecca.

 

preaching the victims of the muslim aggressors

that the aggresors' ideology is very good

(but they dont understand it)

is not right and does not help any one.

 

just tell a muslim that he does not understand allah,

and he could puncture your skin or break a bone.

 

still they are the ones who should be preached.

 

besides, you are preaching and practicing vaishnavism and not islam speaks it self if allah and krishna are same or different.

 

jai sri krishna!

 

[gHari]

That message was for the Muslims. There was a very high view rate on this thread that I assumed had come from Muslim visitors who were linked in from another spot on the web. We can only tell them the truth and hope that God in their heart will let them realize the truth of the words.

 

I doubt that the constant bickering will ever change anyone's heart. We just exchange lies about each other's religious heritage, each looking more and more foolish and offensive to the other. All in all it is God who loses; we all lose.

[gHari]

Excerpt from The Science of Self Realization Chapter 5 by the vaishnava authority A.C. Bhaktivedanta:<blockquote>Don't think that this KRSNa consciousness movement is a new type of religion. Where is the religion which does not recognize God? One may call God "Allah" or "KRSNa" or something else, but where is that religion which does not recognize God? We are teaching that one should simply try to love God. We are attracted by so many things, but if our love is reposed in God, then we will be happy. We don't have to learn to love anything else; everything else is automatically included. Just try to love God. Don't try to love just trees or plants or insects. This will never satisfy. Learn to love God. That is Caitanya MahAprabhu's mission; that is our mission.</blockquote>

 

Guru A.C. Bhaktivedanta speaks:<blockquote>PrabhupAda: ...indicates God, then it is not bad. That is our point. If we indicates to God... Just like Allah. If this name indicates to God, then it is this Allah word as good as God. There is no difference. NAmnAm akAri bahudhA nija sarva zakti. The Allah, the conception of Allah means The Great, is it not? So God is Great. So by chanting Allah, I am meaning God, the Supreme Person, so it is as good. And actually in Mosque, they chant Allah-u-akbar, like that, so far I've heard. So that prayer, if it is not God's name, then what is the use of this prayer? That is God's name. Similarly, the Hindus may chant Hare KRSNa, they're indicating to the same personality. It may be different language; therefore, it is as good as God because God is absolute. But this, this name is authorize because Muhammad said that you chant, "Allah." So it is authorized, because he is God's representative. Therefore my request is, or our request is that you chant the name of Allah. We don't say that you chant KRSNa. You chant the Holy name of God. If Allah is approved name of God, you chant it. That is our request. We don't force you that you chant the name of KRSNa. No, we don't say that. If somebody says jehovah is the name of God, that's all right, you chant jehovah. Allah is the name of God, that's all right, you do it. We simply request that you chant the holy name of God. That's all. If you have got it, we don't force you that you chant the name of KRSNa. That is not our way. We accept: if Allah is God's name, it is as good as the name KRSNa. We are not so sophisticated that you have to chant this KRSNa's name. No, we say: Harer nAma. That is the zAstra, harer nAma. The name of the Lord. So there are many thousands of names, that's a fact. So you actually chant the name of God. Pick up of the millions of God's name, whatever you like, you pick up and chant. That is our propagation.

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harer nAma harer nAma harer nAma eva kevalam

kalau nAsty eva, nAsty eva, nAsty eva gathir anyathA

[Adi 17.21]

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In this age of quarrel and disagreement, God realization is very difficult; therefore, you chant the Holy name of God, then you'll gradually realize Him. This is our program. So we don't force you that you chant this name KRSNa. No, zAstra says, harer nAma, the holy name of God, chant. That is our program.</blockquote>

 

 

The same guru speaks in Kolkatta in 1975:<blockquote>PrabhupAda: Tehran. Yes. I forgot. He has come. Here is the Tehran representative. Yes. So there was very nice meeting in Tehran. Many scholar, Muhammadan, came to see me. So everyone is understanding the importance of this movement. So in Tehran I discussed about chanting of the Hare KRSNa mantra. So Caitanya MahAprabhu says that there are many names. NAmnAm akAri bahudhA nija-sarva-zaktiH. KRSNa's name, manyfold. So I pleaded to the Muslim audience that "You can chant the name of Allah also. Not necessarily that you have to chant the KRSNa name, but any name indicating the Supreme Lord can be chanted." Because in the zAstra it is said, harer nAma, harer nAma, [Adi 17.21] the holy name of the Lord. But it must be the name of the Lord. Actually, KRSNa has thousands of names, and His names are enumerated by His activities. Just like KRSNa accepted to become the son of mother YazodA; therefore He is called YazodA-nandana. KRSNa accepted Vasudeva as His father, or Nanda MahArAja; therefore He is called Nanda-nandana, VAsudeva, or DevakI-nandana. KRSNa acted as the charioteer of Arjuna; He is called Partha-sarathi. So KRSNa's name means attached with the activities along with His devotees. This is KRSNa's name. So if the Muhammadans' aim the Supreme Lord, Allah akbar, "God the great..." Just like we say Parabrahma. Brahman means the biggest, bRhatvAt bRhannatvAt. On account of being very big, including everything, that God's another name is Parabrahma. ParaM brahma paraM dhAma pavitraM paramaM bhavAn [bg. 10.12]. Arjuna addressed KRSNa as Parabrahma. So Allah akbar means Parabrahma.

 

So we do not make any distinction that this type of religion is better than that type of religion. Any religion which teaches how to love God, that is first-class religion. That is the injunction of the SrImad-BhAgavatam.

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sa vai puMsAM paro dharmo

yato bhaktir adhokSaje

ahaituky apratihatA

yena AtmA samprasIdati

[sB 1.2.6]

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SrImad-BhAgavatam does not name any particular type of religion. It says, "That religion, that system of religion, is first class," sa vai puMsAM paro dharmaH, "transcendental." This "Hinduism,Muslimism,Christianism," they are all prAkRta, mundane. But we have to go, transcend this prAkRta, or mundane conception of religion--"We are Hindus,We are Muslim,We are Christian." Just like gold. Gold is gold. Gold cannot be Hindu gold or Christian gold or Muhammadan gold. Nobody... Because a lump of gold is in the hand of Hindu or in the Muslim, nobody will say, "It is Muslim gold,It is Hindu gold." Everyone will say, "It is gold." So we have to select gold, not the Hindu gold or Muslim gold or Christian gold. When Lord KRSNa said, sarva-dharmAn parityajya mAm ekaM zaraNaM vraja [bg. 18.66], He did not mean this Hindu religion or Muslim religion. These are designated. So we have to come to the platform where it is pure; there is no designation. AhaM brahmAsmi: "I am part and parcel of KRSNa." This is real religion. Without this conception, any kind of designated religion, that is prAkRta. That is not transcendental.

 

So our KRSNa consciousness movement is transcendental, paro dharmaH. Sa vai puMsAM paro dharmaH. Para means above, above the so-called religious system. So this is not our manufactured thing. It is said in the SrImad-BhAgavatam in the beginning, dharmaH projjhita-kaitavaH atra: "Any kind of kaitavaH, pretentious or false, illusory...," kaitavaH. KaitavaH means cheating. "Cheating type of religion is rejected, thrown away," projjhita. PrAkRSTa-rUpeNa ujjhita. Just like we sweep over the floor, we take the last particle of dust and throw it away, similarly, to become KRSNa conscious means we have to give up all these so-called or cheating type of religious system. Because experience has shown that following the so many different designated religious systems, nobody has attained the platform of how to love God. Nobody has attained. This is practical experience. It is SrI KRSNa Caitanya MahAprabhu. He introduced. But Lord KRSNa gave hint that "This is real religion, mAm ekaM zaraNaM vraja. This is religion." Any other religion, system of religion, which does not train the followers, how to love God, that is cheating type of religion. Caitanya MahAprabhu says, premA pum-artho mahAn. And BhAgavata says also. Real achievement of success in life is how to love God, or KRSNa. That is the highest perfection of life.</blockquote>

 

Another lecture:<blockquote>So what is this Hare KRSNa? Hare means the energy of the Lord, and KRSNa means the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So it is a prayer. There are three words only: Hare, KRSNa and RAma, three words. That has been arranged in sixteen words: Hare KRSNa, Hare KRSNa, KRSNa KRSNa, Hare Hare/ Hare RAma, Hare RAma, RAma RAma, Hare Hare. So our movement is that we request you to take up these sixteen words--not sixteen words, three words, Hare, KRSNa, RAma. But is is arranged in such a way that there are sixteen words. So anyone can take it by heart, these three words, and chant it. It is universal. And if you think that "Oh, KRSNa is the name of Hindu god," if you have got any objection, then you may not chant KRSNa, but you must have a name for God. Just like somebody, the Muhammadans, call Allah, the Jews call jehovah, or somebody calls something. That doesn't matter. If you think that "Why shall I chant the Indian name KRSNa, Sanskrit name KRSNa?" so Lord Caitanya says that there are millions and billions of names of God. If you think that this KRSNa name is not very suitable, you can accept any name. That doesn't matter. Our proposition is you chant God's name. That is our proposal. Therefore it is universal. If you like, you can chant jehovah or you can chant Allah, but we request you that you chant God's name. Is it very difficult? It is not at all difficult. Lord Caitanya said that there are innumerable names of God according to different languages, different countries, different societies. And each and every one of them has the potency of God Himself. If there is any God, so God is Absolute; therefore there is no difference between His name and He Himself. Just like in the material world, in the world of duality there is difference between the name "water" and the substance water. The name water is different from the substance water. If you are thirsty, if you simply chant, "Water, water, water, water," your thirstiness will not be quenched. You require the substance water. That is material, but spiritually, the name KRSNa or the name Allah or the name jehovah is as good as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

 

Therefore if you chant Hare KRSNa... You may inquire why we are chanting Hare KRSNa. Hare KRSNa, this name, was chanted by Lord Caitanya, who introduced this movement five hundred years ago in India. We are following the footprints of Lord Caitanya. Because He chanted Hare KRSNa, therefore we are chanting Hare KRSNa. But Lord Caitanya has recommended that God has innumerable names, and any one of them can be chanted, and there is no hard and fast rules and regulations for chanting. It is not that you have to prepare yourself or you have to educate yourself or you have to adjust yourself for chanting. No. Everyone. Just like immediately we began to chant. You were not prepared, but you joined with us, you clapped with us, you danced with us. So similarly, there is no preoccupation or any rules and regulation. You simply chant. And this is very easy. While walking, you can chant whatever name you like. We like KRSNa. We chant always: Hare KRSNa, Hare KRSNa, KRSNa KRSNa, Hare Hare/ Hare RAma, Hare RAma, RAma RAma, Hare Hare. While walking the streets, while you are going in the bus, and whatever, even while working with your hands, you can chant. There is no loss on your part. There is no expenditure on your part, but the gain is very great. Why don't you try it? Try it. That is our request.</blockquote>

 

More:<blockquote>PrabhupAda: No, you don't give God name. But God is named by His action. Just like KRSNa. KRSNa means all-attractive. KRSNa means all-attractive. That is the quality of God, that He is all-attractive. Similarly, Allah. Allah means "the great." So God is great; therefore He is called Allah. So actually God has no name, but according to His action, He has name. </blockquote>

 

Compassion for the fallen:<blockquote>PrabhupAda: No, no. If one wants to follow Koran, let him follow strictly that. No halfway mixing.

Yoga student: Then preaching in Iran should be essentially to those people who are fallen away from their traditional path.

PrabhupAda: Yes. Everyone is fallen. They are simply amending and concoction. That is not good. Why they should amend? [break] ...himself in what relationship with God?

Yoga student: With God? He presented himself as the last expression of the divine revelation in the West.

PrabhupAda: No, what was his relationship? Just like Christ, he presented himself as the son of God. So what is the position of Muhammad?

Yoga student: He presented himself as a man, as considered by Muslims as the perfect man.

PrabhupAda: Yes.

Atreya RSi: The disciple of God.

Yoga student: And he was the perfect expression of the divine manifestation in human terms. He was not a divine figure as Christ or KRSNa. He was simply a man, and who was the mouthpiece of the divine word.

PrabhupAda: What is the meaning of Allah akbar?

Yoga student: It means God, the greatest.

PrabhupAda: Greatest.

Yoga student: Yes. Akbar is being the superlative of kabirsh(?).

PrabhupAda: And Muhammad is the greatest? No. He is subordinate.

Yoga student: No. And in fact Muslims object to their religion being called Mohammedanism because it implies that they worship Muhammad, whereas in fact they feel that they go straight to God, to Allah, which... and that Muhammad simply was a messenger.

PrabhupAda: That's good.

Yoga student: And they regard... They call their religion Islam, which means submission.

PrabhupAda: That's very good.

Yoga student: The Muslim is he who submits.

PrabhupAda: Then God is the greatest, and we are finite, limited. We are not greatest. And our business is to serve Him. What is that?

Yoga student: Our business is to serve Him. Precisely as was said last night, our business is to satisfy Him.

PrabhupAda: That's it.

Yoga student: There is a tradition, and there's a body of forty traditions, which are called the sacred traditions, one of which says that these are the words of God as enunciated through Muhammad, one of them saying that "The more you strive towards Me, the more you love Me, the closer I come to you."

PrabhupAda: Oh, that's it. Then the ultimate goal is how to love God.

Yoga student: Yes.

PrabhupAda: That is very good. That is our philosophy. Sa vai puMsAM paro dharmo yato bhaktir adhokSaje [sB 1.2.6]. PremA pumArtho mahAn. This is the highest goal of life, how one has developed his love for God. And BhAgavata says, "That is first-class religion which trains the followers how to love God and serve Him." That is first-class religion. Then Islam is VaiSNava dharma in a crude form like the Christian. So we can amalgamate them all if they are sane men.</blockquote>

[Guest guest]

Dear gHari, these are the quotes that the world of devotees need to see on these dicussions. thank you Prabhu. Hare Krishna.

[I_love_krishna_]

So, It proves that Krishna does not really care if you are Iskon, a muslim or a christian. Because those are like saying "He is my husband" , "He is my master" , "He is my father" . But he is the same.

 

The people in koran even though they say evil things in koran, a person with some brains will think it over.

 

[Guest guest]

these prabhupada's sttements are deplomatic.

 

so far i have not seen evidence

that parbhupada has read koran in full.

so it is obvious he would think (or make others think)

islam is also ok.

 

if islam and vaishnavism both are same,

then why not preach islam in mosques and madressas?

why krishna bhakti?

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chanting allah is loving allah.

 

loving allah is knowing what allah says from koran, imams, and mullas (not gita, bhagavaam, or chaitanya).

 

the terrorists and the barbaric muslims invaders have never quoted gita in 1300 years in support of their acts.

they have burnt it.

 

so, if the forcible conversions and invasions are not acceptable, then its ideology source should be understood as not acceptable.

 

if brahmansa (most kare krishnas) do not realize and speak the truth, then who will?

 

jai sri krishna!

 

[gHari]

<blockquote>AcyutAnanda: Question: I believe in KRSNa but please clarify the following doubts. Lord KRSNa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, so when KRSNa is the only God in the world, the creator of the whole universe, then why the existence of Jesus Christ and Allah? Why should not only one God for all? Why Christians and Muslims are not accepting KRSNa as God?

 

PrabhupAda: They are accepting God, but they did not disclose the name of God because the people are unable to understand. "KRSNa" means "the all-attractive." That is the meaning of KRSNa. So unless God is all-attractive, how He can be God? "KRSNa" means all-attractive.

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ahaM sarvasya prabhavo

mattaH sarvaM pravartate

iti matvA bhajante mAM

budhA bhAva-samanvitAH

[bg. 10.8]

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When one understands KRSNa... To understand KRSNa it takes little time. ManuSyANAM sahasreSu kazcid yatati siddhaye, yatatAm api siddhAnAm [bg. 7.3]. So KRSNa revealed Himself in India before Arjuna, and what the others will understand about KRSNa unless he's advanced like Arjuna? So there are different persons, so different types of religion they have revealed. That is also KRSNa--but, to some extent. The full extent they cannot understand. Just like Lord Jesus Christ says "Thou shall not kill." Just imagine what the audience were. They are killers. So what they'll understand about KRSNa? Let them first stop this killing. Then the stage will come he'll understand what is KRSNa.

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yeSAM tv anta-gataM pApaM

janAnAM puNya-karmaNAm

te dvandva-moha-nirmuktA

bhajante mAM dRDha-vratAH

[bg. 7.28]

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One who is sinful, the first instruction should be, "You stop your sinful activities." Then the opportunity will come to understand KRSNa. That is stated in the... YeSAM tu anta-gataM pApam. One who is sinful, what he will understand about KRSNa? First of all, stop sinful activities. Then this stage will come, he'll understand KRSNa. Therefore Jesus Christ said, "You nonsense, stop killing." Then there will be time we'll understand one day KRSNa. So the first instruction is to stop sinful activities; then he'll be qualified.

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yeSAM tv anta-gataM pApaM

janAnAM puNya-karmaNAm

te dvandva-moha-nirmuktA

bhajante mAM dRDha-vratAH

[bg. 7.28]

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So everything by step by step, not by jump. That is not possible.

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[Guest guest]

You definition of who or what God is here in this statement dated 6/14/03, hits the nail right on the head. God has no name and no identity and infinite names and identities all at the same time. As such, in Hinduism, a common misconception leads one to believe it is a religion of polytheism when in reality, it is not, as the One may posess infinite identities (Ram, Krishna, Jesus,

Allah, etc). Everything springs from Him and so He is in everything. Even the cenotaph of Mumtaz at the Taj Mahal is decorated with the 99 names of Allah. It is those who do not know Him who fear him and harp on the minor and mundane details of their religion. It is those individuals who do not know God that focus on the literal meaning of the words from their "books." Enlightened individuals can hear the word of God as loud as thunder in their hearts, not from their books, preists, imams, maharaj's, etc.

[Guest guest]

There are a lot of interesting comments from people on this topic. I happen to be someone in this predicament at the moment. I am a hindu male and wish to get married to a muslim female. We live in the UK.

We have known each other for nearly 3 years now and want to get married, but there are a lot of problems.

Neither myself or my girlfriend are very religious, we follow it because we have been brought up to do so.

I recently told my mother about wanting to get married to a muslim girl (the hardest conversation in my life), and she didnt take it all to well.

I want my parents to be involved and want their blessings, but I constantly get headaches trying to find a solution to all the problems that I face trying to get everything to work....i am willing to do so because I know she(girlfriend) is worth the effort.

We have managed to work around a few things...

 

1) She has left her family (she was getting a lot of hassle and was being treated in a bad way...she now lives on her own)

 

2) She is willing to convert into a hindu (totally her choice, i have said to her she doesnt have to..but she said she wants to, to make things work between us)

 

3) Kids will be brought up as hindus ( totally her choice too...but I said there may be a time when we may need to tell them the truth when they are a bit older...if needed)

 

4) I know my parents are more concerned on what everyone else will think..such as relatives.

 

Is there any advice anyone can give me on the matter or what path to follow? All views are welcome!

Thankyou

 

[Guest guest]

I was the one who posted right before yours on that website. I am in a similar situtation as you. I am a 25 y/o hindu female, dating 24 y/o muslim male for 3 years now. We have discussed with our families that marriage between us may materialize in the future. As a result....much disagreement. Much like you, neither one of us practices religion as we should but both of us have a firm belief in a God and as a result, we will continue to practice our own religions and bring the kids up as Muslims but at the same time, will be afforded Hindu rights and ceremonies, etc. I believe this will work out as long as the parents realize they cannot interfere as it will disrupt this fine equilibrium between the two religions. As for planning one marriage incorporating both ceremonies or having 2 ceremonies entirely is something we are going through at the moment. As far as the parents are concerend, they love us and will continue to love us regardless of who we decide to spend our lives with. As far as the approval of relatives is concerned....They can go to hell if they think they are in a position to pass judement upon me or my boyfriend. I am going to spend my life with this man not they, so who are they to dissaprove of my decision. Additionally, I am completely a self reliant mature individual and I will never need their help emotionally, physically or financially and so their approval means nothing. Those whose approval I do need I already have (God, my boyfriend and my parents).

[Guest guest]

Well guest congratualations on your decisions! I wish you well! I guess inter religious marriages are common nowadays. Much like many people, I am also in a relationship with a 27 y/o Hindu man. Me being a Muslim has been a very big concern for his parents and though conversion is not a option for him, his parents are still opposing the relationship. Sadly, I do not know whether I should take the next step as issues such as children, people changing in the long run and societal pressure are a concern for me. Sigh!

[Guest guest]

what if the couple lives in a joint family in India where the mother in law wasn't very happy with the marriage decision?

[Guest guest]

I think that's where your problem lies. It's the external social pressures which have put stress on your relationship. Minimizing the external interferance and influence may help your situation. My reccomendation would be to move out onto your own, however, that may not be economically feasible. In that case, you must not let harsh remarks get to you, God gave you two ears so that comments like that come in thru one ear and leave straight out of the other. Worst case scenario, u may even need to tell those relatives that you'll ask for their advice when you think you need it.

[Guest guest]

I am a Muslim and I believe in Allah, Everyone should remember that Islam is not enemy of Hindus. Also important fact that if you are a Muslim you should have respect towards other religion as well as your own. Some reason in India 99% of Hindus believes that Islam is horrible and they want to kill non-believers. That is not simply true. Most of my friends are Hindus. They are very educated and broadminded they don’t think Muslims are against Hindus. That is because of Pakistan hates Indians that doesn’t mean Hindus in India has to hate Muslims in India ..It is a political matter,

 

I love Hindus. If you are a true Muslim you should love every human being on this planet. Learn about Islam. Everyone talks about Islam but I wondered how many of you knows Islam, or how many of you have read Quran. First read Quran and Discuss with others not with fanatics, with normal positive people.

 

Wake up guys. This is 21st century.

 

One more thing.. Every morning Every Hindus in India must say I love Muslims.. and Every Muslims in India must say I love Hindus..

 

Good luck.. Don’t listen to Fanatics.. This is your life you should make decision.. it is entirely up to you..

I love hindus and christians and muslims.. basically i love everyone..

Jishi from London

jishi2000@hotmail.com

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[Guest guest]

<<I am a Muslim and I believe in Allah, Everyone should remember that Islam is not enemy of Hindus. >>

 

oh yes?!!

 

look at india's history since last 1000+ years

and see how many times muslims invaded india, destroyed temples, forcibly conveted hindus (whose decendents now live in pak and bangladesh), raped, looted, slaughtered brahmin and priestly class, burnt sanskrit libraries, even lately destroyed bamian buddha statue.

 

what does koran say about kafirs, and "idol worshippers"?

 

any muslim who who loves hindus sholud:

 

- explain islam history - why it is sooo bloody and aggresive.

 

- preach ben ladin and his party to love hindus and kafirs

 

- give justification from koran why a muslims should love hindus.

 

- vacate first the hindu land invaded and then love hindus.

that means unite pak and india and then take out islam from hindu land ( accept back hinduism, the religionsof the ancestors.) invasion is not good.

no hindu has invited islam to enter india.

(some hindu fool kingdoms do have supported muslim kings against hondu kings, and that is not something praiseworthy of them in hindu world.)

 

- tell what you like in gita, if you love hindus.

 

the reality is that koran and gita are giving different messages 180 degree apart. of all the religions, islam is most intolerant, and hinduism is most tolerant, but that does not mean hinduism can tolerate aggression. no.

 

intruding and occupying some one's house/land and then telling him "I love you" is not nice.

 

get out (islam) of india, and then love hinduism.

if we see genuine love, we may become friends.

 

to say "I love all" is mostly hipocracy.

only a highly advanced yogi/bhakat can say it.

 

if you live hinduism, then why remain a muslim?

 

jai sri krishna!

 

[Guest guest]

its reassuring to see so many discussions of hindu muslim marriages. i myself am seeing a hindu boy, and the time has come for us to decide on the next step of our relationship. Although we both have our own religious beliefe, we believe tolerance of each other and an open mind to the attitudes of the world of our religions will inshallah help us through. However, as nothing in life is guaranteed - we do not know how things will work out for us. pray for us.

[shahidmohammed]

Hi,

 

First of all I don't know whether you are a Muslim or a Hindu. If you are a true muslim them you wouldn't have written these words.

 

I guess you born to a Muslim couple that'swhy you are a muslim other than this; you don't know the exact meaning of Islam and the limits and delimits of Islam. There is no wrong seeing a Hindu boy but if you wanna marry him then he should be a Muslim before you marry him.

 

For you kind information if a Muslim girl want to marry a Hindu boy then he should accept Islam before marriage then only she can marry to him. This is vice-versa. IF YOU FAIL TO DO SO>> YOU WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY THROWN OUT OF THE ISLAM .. And you no longer will be a MUSLIM. The religion itself through you out.

 

If you know the islam in true manner then you won't leave islam at any cost.. any cost means anycost....

 

TODAY.. WITH LITTLE EDUCATION PEOPLE THINK THAT, WHAT EVER THEY FEEL AND THINK ARE RIGHT... BUT, IN FACT THEY ARE FOOLS/MORONS/IDIOTS. One fine day they have to face GOD ( A true god). All these things which you are talking may look good till you die. Think about hearafter.

 

I donno what kind of relation you have with that hindu boy and what are you intensions in future...

 

I pray to Allah that, give some knowledge to you to judge what is better for you.

 

ALLAH SAYS: O! Believers (Who ever believes ALLAH as God)marry to those who are from your community; they (Who believes in ALLAH) are far BETTER than Non Believers.

 

ALLAH Can't be wrong and the sbove statement was ALLAH's wish... and I guess you are not smarter than ALLAH even though you are highly educated person on this earth which ALLAH created....

 

Thinkk................

[Guest guest]

 

First of all I don't know whether you are a Muslim or a Hindu. If you are a true muslim them you wouldn't have written these words.

 

 

 

Can you quote where in Koran it says that true Muslims can't marry "Hindus?" Thanks.

 

 

I guess you born to a Muslim couple that'swhy you are a muslim other than this; you don't know the exact meaning of Islam and the limits and delimits of Islam. There is no wrong seeing a Hindu boy but if you wanna marry him then he should be a Muslim before you marry him.

 

 

 

So she can date him but not marry him? What does she do with him if not marry? Are you suggesting something here?

 

 

For you kind information if a Muslim girl want to marry a Hindu boy then he should accept Islam before marriage then only she can marry to him. This is vice-versa. IF YOU FAIL TO DO SO>> YOU WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY THROWN OUT OF THE ISLAM .. And you no longer will be a MUSLIM. The religion itself through you out.

 

 

Is that a bad thing? Why?

 

 

If you know the islam in true manner then you won't leave islam at any cost.. any cost means anycost....

 

 

 

Maybe she didn't feel it was worth her time.

 

 

TODAY.. WITH LITTLE EDUCATION PEOPLE THINK THAT, WHAT EVER THEY FEEL AND THINK ARE RIGHT... BUT, IN FACT THEY ARE FOOLS/MORONS/IDIOTS. One fine day they have to face GOD ( A true god). All these things which you are talking may look good till you die. Think about hearafter.

 

 

 

Yeah. Like heaven where you can get 72 virgins? It's far better than one Hindu boy, don't you think? :-)

 

 

I donno what kind of relation you have with that hindu boy

 

 

 

Since neither of them care too much about religion and they aren't married yet, I'm sure you could guess.

 

 

I pray to Allah that, give some knowledge to you to judge what is better for you.

 

 

 

I have a feeling it's not going to work.

 

 

ALLAH SAYS: O! Believers (Who ever believes ALLAH as God)marry to those who are from your community; they (Who believes in ALLAH) are far BETTER than Non Believers.

 

ALLAH Can't be wrong and the sbove statement was ALLAH's wish... and I guess you are not smarter than ALLAH even though you are highly educated person on this earth which ALLAH created....

 

Thinkk................

 

 

 

Where does Allah say these things? I didn't know Allah spoke English.

 

 

Cheers

[Guest guest]

With this line of yours (Where does Allah say these things? I didn't know Allah spoke English. )I can makeout how idiot you are.

 

Qur'an is revieled in Arabic and now there are numorous translations (not versions) of Qur'an present on this earth. So there is no question raise here whether he speak English or someother language.

 

If you are a Hindu: What the hell you know about religion, your religion itself is a big chaos. You even praise to a dick (Shiv Ling) as god. You can't even think a while before you praise to Monkey, Elephant or a Rat. Gosh... How an Elephant can be creator of this earth and can be praised to such extent... Huh... go and get a life before you talk...

 

If you are a Christian: Your religion also a big chaos.. Till now no one can fully explained what does it mean by Trinity... For you kind information you bible is full of Incest. You talk to a person who converted into Islam from Christianity.. Learn some before you talk...

 

Unless you are in faith of Islam you can't even think of what the concept of god and the value of Islam.

 

Your brain can think little, you have to adjust with those animals (dogs, Pigs, Elephats, monkies and lot more) as Gods and creators of this massive earth and heavens. Your brain can't go beyond this.. so spend your life like that without opening your mouth cause you can't think better...

[Myra]

Whether Allah, Krishna, Yahweh, Jehovah...many names but I believe they pertains to the Same ONE GOD. It's like the word, love in english, Bhakti in hindu, amore(hmnn not sure..sowwiiii) in spanish but they all refers to the same thought.

 

Why don't we just respect each other's belief? Worship your God and believe and do the things that your scriptures instruct you.

 

Do you think God is happy of what we are doing right now? Chastising each other's belief?

 

 

[Ash]

>You even praise to a dick (Shiv Ling) as god

The Kabbah is a giant form of the Shiv Ling if you didn't know, so all the Muslims also praise the Shiv Ling just like the Prophet did!