Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 looks wkd tanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 should all have a dot above them! So there would be a dot above the second letter (H), the fourth letter (L) and the last letter (N) which I think adds interest and more beauty to the script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Krishna is a trillion times better than this ponce, find somebody better to look up to Helena, if you want a taste of His glories then chant this mantra anytime/anywhere esp morning time good... Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 about Telugu is that the vowels sit on top of the consonants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Its annoying that I write so many mistakes! oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I note that you have put the first "e" off to itself. Isn't this supposed to be the case only if the vowel is at the beginning of the sylable? The "e" does not begin the sylable so wouldn't it be adjacent to the "H"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 In telugu , the alphabet are very different, so it is not wise to compare the english alphabet which are 26, to the 56 characters of telugu. It is the same when you compare it with tamil... you just can't compare english with tamil. it just does not happen. You see the first letter in the picture that i posted... It is called "HA" if you give it a "Hetvam" which is a stress... it becomes "HEY" It is an exeptional rule that the hetvam should not touch the main "HA" Note: these characters in telugu are used to make certain sounds. Unlike Tamil consonants which are only 18 (6 hard, 6 soft, 6 medium) The Telugu consonants are 36- 4 are never used, so we can say 32. i will quickly explain it to you... The first letter that we see in the name above is HA and it is a consonant thats why the hetvam (U turned to the left) is not attached. LA is the next letter, there is no rule that la should be left alone, so we attach the turned U to it. The Na looks like HA but the main difference is that the "Hetvam" would be attached to it... but there is no need of "Hetvam" because we are not writing NEY we are writing "NAA" So we write NAA The line sticking on top of the NA is called a "DHIRGA" and dhirga is used to stress or elongate the expression. So, It becomes HELENA. Not HELEN... if the dirgam is not there then it would become nnn which would then be pronounced HELEN. To compare tamil and telugu to English would be like saying "britney spears is not a bitch" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 I_Love_krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 but in the meantime I answered my own question. The mark you have in the front of the name is supposed to be the little check-like part of the "H". See below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 You wrote Salena or something... this is telugu.. it is supposed to be Helena, not Salena. You must have confused yourself with Sa and Ha. There is a difference between both, but it is reasonable for you to be misled because it happened to me also when I tried to learn it. Sa is not written like that though. Sa is written with out the zero in the bottom. The Hetvam is not a check mark like we see it in Devanagari. Hetvam is a pitching syllable and tells you to use a certain pitch. For example, if you give a hetvam to HA, then you make it into "HEY". The difference is easy to see if we say HA(low pitch) HEY (High pitch) Your SA is like NA and NA is like SA , if you switch them, they would spell Nalesa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 a very interesting script! I like it a lot but probably won't get into it too much. I am more interested in sanskrit and Bengali. I am fascinated however, with the Tamil script - it is like art!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 Out of all of the scripts I love tamil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsdprasad Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 LEji, a small correction! Talugu is not same as Telugu /images/graemlins/smile.gif. Well, it is believed that sanskrit is the root of all other languages in India. So its easy to become a polyglot beginning with sanskrit. Also Telugu script is similar to that of Kannada. So its slightly easy to understand kannada if you know Telugu well but not vice versa. To ILK: Adentandi "anni bhaashamula kanna Telugu bhaasha minna" kada? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Tamil consonants should all have a dot above them! That is only when there is no vowel connected with the consonant. The picture above was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Mana Matru bhasha ki jay! anni ti kante chakkati bhasha mana andramma bhasha /images/graemlins/smile.gif just like, Anni ti ki chakkannaina prabhu manna venkateshwarulu (krishna ofcourse). Cuz the last time I went there they chanted Govinda all the way in the temple! it was great! Anyway, Chudandi enta chakkaga unndho aa ratha yi post meeda /images/graemlins/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 I am really enjoying this thread!! To ILK: Adentandi "anni bhaashamula kanna Telugu bhaasha minna" kada? As for the superiority of Telugu - I guess it depends on taste. I agree it is a very interesting script and my interest is certainly sparked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 I am also being told now that there would be a dot over the N only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 You know telugu! that is so fricking cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I am also being told now that there would be a dot over the N only. Actually there shouldn't be any dot. The dot negates the vowel 'A' that is connected to all Tamil consonants. With the dot on the 'N' it would be "Helen", not "Helena". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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