Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 BUT, when KALKI AVATAR comes in, you need to update your AVATAR worship as well. KALKI AVATAR comes in, I will be worshipping only KALKI and all other AVATARS get absolete or outdated. THat is how the hindu system was set up originally, but many people did not realize it at all. WHY? People can become addicted to worshipping certain DEITY and can't move on to the next or get stuck in ancient DEITY FORMS. What romans and greeks or celtic tribes have done is that they discarded all their previous IDOL worship as invalid or made it look like a "MYTHOLOGY" or imagination stuff and narrowed down thier worship to one single DEITY Jesus Christ only. THat was because in addition to having language difficulties, their gunas directed them differently to material world. Spiritualism had its time as far as they are concerned. JC was a hindu SAINT or a guru who died for their disgustipating sins. HE willingly and cvolunatarily offered himself to death, so that they will have his only SON ZEUS CHRISTUS (Greek mom and INDIC SAINT dad) to be resurrected later after 3 days near that cave where the "SAINT DAD was Crucified" first. Hinduism is so called because after all hardships (slavery, death and dalitism) they suffered when they arrived in INDUS valley back in 350BCE or later, they realized that Hindus (INDIC people) were right and it was a hind sight that they called it a religion. HIND=HIND SIGHT ISM=religious phil derived from VEDAS. VEDAS were completed by about 6,000BCE in oral composition and in writing by 5,000BCE or so. But the major break up into east and west did not arise up until ABRAHM aka BRAHMA rishi split them up due to AHAMKAR or EGO. Read it in Bhaghavatam. IT is all in there. HAVING ONE DEITY MAY MAKE THINGS LESS CONFUSING for them, but for hindus it is a joy and eternal reverence of all the great things that occurred starting from MATSYA AVATAR. SO the decision has to be individual and never imposed upon people as to what DEITY They can worship or not. BUT in no case, no deity should be removed from people, as they are very sentimental SPIRIT in reverence. Thank you for reading this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 it is very hard for an ordinary person to study them (all 4 VEDAS) and understand the esoterical meaning within them to appreciate it. I read RIG VEDA about 33 hymns from BOOK I. IT was very exhausting and difficult. It was very stressful as well. BUT I found out, RV was the last completed work. If you really want to study VEDAS, you have to start w LAst book of Atharva Veda first. It is like your resume. First experience/s at the bottom, w most recent on top of the pile. Good luck. I found out JC's apppearence was indicated in Rig Veda and also the departure of ABRAHM for slavery, etc. from UR CITY. ISLAM had its origination w SunahSEPA there as well. SUNNAH means ZERO. SEPA means heard; It was during the time of 9,150BCE that there was a RISHI from TURKEY origin"TURAKAVASHAYA" existed and from him all Upanishadic notes were taken by ISLAM to be followers. SVATESHVATARA U was contineud as ISLAM later in 570CE, when GABIR language speaking EL worshipper gave that U to pr5ophet MD. more later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Krishna is the incarnation of Adi Narayan. Not narayan in Vaikunth but the first Narayan who is the cause of all incarnations. His name is also Krishna. The Vedas talk of this Krishna and not the avtaar Krishna. I think this is where IsKon misinterprets the original Godhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Doesnt the shrutis say "This is perfect , that is perfect and anything that comes out perfect is also perfect" . Doesnt this hold true for Vishnu and Krishna . If Vishnu comes out of krishna how can he be less perfect than krishna and the same goes other way also. When valmiki chanted "Mara Mara" he didnt even know what he was chanting, but he was still blessed The faith is what counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes you are right. People misjudge reality. All incarnations are that of supreme being who is perfect. Now is the avtaars Of Vishnu and Krishna come out of Supreme Adi NArayan then they are supreme as well!!! Thus what comes from perfect os also perfect in this way. Avtaars come to the earth for purpose. They are God manifest either as human, lion or any other living creature. So These avtaars whether Raam, Krishna, Vaman, Dattatrey etc are all supreme being and merge into Adi Narayan when the time comes for Atyantik Pralay, as at the moment they live in their own abodes such as Golok, Vaikunth, Badrik Ashram and Shwetdweep etc. All these will finally merge back into Akshardham. Which is abode of Adi NArayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 christian told, vishnu and krishna come from hall,and? praphupada are like christian and noting more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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