tovishal2001 Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 I read in Bhagvadgita (asitis.com) that all human are part or an atom of Krishna,supreme Godhead of world or we can say a small part of God exists inside every creature. Krishna created this material world.So there is nothing else in this world than Krishna and his parts(creatures,human,also his material creation including earth and other planet systems). So i have 2 questions now. Please answer them with patience /images/graemlins/smile.gif thanks. 1.If God created this world and all creatured including human and also according to bhagvadgita human are part/parcell of himself then, why he punishes his own parts(human) when they turn demonic/bad ????... 2. If there is nothing else than Krishna(assuming due to his wish/desire this material world exists) in this world then a simple question arises....why Krishna created it?????? (ok...this is hardest question i guess...) Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Q: If God created this world and all creatured including human and also according to bhagvadgita human are part/parcell of himself then, why he punishes his own parts(human) when they turn demonic/bad ????... Answer: he is like fire, fire gives you light, but it can also burn you. In the same way, we can be in the spiritual world, where krishna gives us light. Or, we can chose to be the in the material world, where krishna's energy hurts us. We are not human/animal/any creatures, we are pure spirit souls which are like small sparks of the big fire called krishna. Q: If there is nothing else than Krishna(assuming due to his wish/desire this material world exists) in this world then a simple question arises....why Krishna created it?????? (ok...this is hardest question i guess...) Answer: He created it because we wanted to be like him, we did not want our place in the spiritual world, so we left him. Then he created this material world for us to live in and be like him, so that we slowly realize that we cannot be him and thus return back to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 << 1.If God created this world and all creatured including human and also according to bhagvadgita human are part/parcell of himself then, why he punishes his own parts(human) when they turn demonic/bad ????... >> as soul, we are like Him qualitatively, but not quantitatively. We are minute, He is greatest of all. Then he has given us freedom to think and do what we choose to do. when we misuse our freedom and do wrong things, we suffer because of the law of karma (god's justice system, very perfect and fair). << 2. If there is nothing else than Krishna(assuming due to his wish/desire this material world exists) in this world then a simple question arises....why Krishna created it?????? >> He is god, and we cannot question him. he has all the freedom to do anything he likes. god is live. so he acts as he chooses. we, being minute and ignorant, cannot figure god and why he does or does not do something. the thing to remember is that god is never unfair. god's work do not bind him. there is no sin for god no matter what he does. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Your questions are of a cosmic nature and would need a cosmic mind to answer them correctly. But I will do my humble best to merely give my limited understanding of these grand issues.. <<.If God created this world and all creatured including human and also according to bhagvadgita human are part/parcell of himself then, why he punishes his own parts(human) when they turn demonic/bad ?>> God exists in both bad and good. Vishnu was both in Ravana and Rama. That is the message of the Gita. Krishna acts in all bodies. Individual Humans only partly perceive Krishna dwelling in us and due to our ego we end up accumulating Karmas and undergo the consequences. But when we identify ourselves as Krishna ie. Krishna as the doer, then Karma ceases to accrue. <<If there is nothing else than Krishna(assuming due to his wish/desire this material world exists) in this world then a simple question arises....why Krishna created it?????? (ok...this is hardest question i guess...)>> To understand this one should transcend the limits of time and space. Perhaps there is no past, present or future in the higher planes. So the question of creation is merely our perception. Of course the question of why do we percieve things as such would rise. But yet again, with our rational mind and limited mental consciosness that question arises. When one experiences Krishna Consciousness such questions dont arise as there are no divisions only infinite bliss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madanvrao Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Yes, but Krishna's demoniac natures are also transcendental. You can treat Krishna in any way you like. You can treat him positively or negatively. If you want him to be a rascal, he can be the greatest of all rascals. If you want him to be your friend, he can be your greatest friend. It depends on how you want him to be to you. The choice is squarely yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 demoniac nature we see in some people is due to the freedom krishna has given to them. when this freedom is misused, then it becomes/appears as their demoniac nature. krishna however tells/advises to give up demoniac nature and rise from tamas to rajas to satva guna and finally become gunatita. any yoga helps towards this goal only but in a different way. also, just becoming gunatita is not enough. one has to love krishna and do everything for Him. now, if one asks - is krishna demoniac? the answer is no. with asuras (e.g. ravana, hiranyakashipy, kamsa, etc.) He would engage in a lila in which he appears to act like a mean person to teh asuras, but not to the suras. behind this lila of anger and violence of krishna, He really loves the souls within the asuras, and anyone who is killed by krishna immediately reaches krishna's abode - haven. so, if one with a kshatriya spirit kills an asura, the asura goes to haven ife he was killed on behalf or krishna. if however one is killed by the asura while fighting for krishna, then he also goes to haven. the message from gita is that this material world cannot be free from war, never. so, it means one has to fight. the choice one has is to fight for krishna or against krishna. hence krishna says to arjun - yuddhAya krita nishchaya.. krishna is not what a person makes of Him. He is a person and has personality/individuality. He however behaves with a human, usually, in reciprocation of what the human behaves and sees him. krishna is never mean to any soul. his love for any soul is guaranteed and is eternal. jai sri krishna! -madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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