Interview With Enlightened Master Sri Kalki

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KANNADA PRABHA PRESS INTERVIEW GIVEN BY SRI KALKI

Life has its own wonderful ways of teaching us and enlightening us. Being a journalist every alley of life interests me and I am propelled to explore every nook and corner of it. When one of the members of the Kalki movement invited me to visit the Ashram and see how human lives have been altered, how happy communities have been created – not through a social revolution but through a silent yet powerful spiritual awakening, I was intrigued. A general perception in society has always been that, happiness can happen only through a quantitative change in life but here was someone telling me something quite the contrary. I was totally hooked. There was no way I could miss this opportunity.

 

Through out the entire journey from Bangalore, there were so many questions arising within the mind. How? Who is this wonderful being? What is his power? Is all this a fact of a utopic concept? I couldn’t wait to know.

 

My curious mind didn’t have to wait long for the answer. As we panned by a winding road leading to the Ashram, I was amazed by the sight that beheld me. I stopped the car to have a better view. Beside a simple hut there stood a few buffalos and milking one of them was a villager grinning ear to ear as he sang and milked them. Standing a few feet away from him was a lady (presumably his wife), watching him again with a broad smile on her gentle face. People smile and people SMILE! Even at a distance I could see that the grin was vacant. It was causeless, yet there was so much joy. I had never seen such undiluted joy in my life. The devotee sitting next to me laughed looking at my amazed expression and said, “Wait to watch. This is just the beginning. You have seen just one ‘Munirathnam’”.

 

As we approached the Ashram, the devotee again stopped the car in front of a gathering of people, sitting under a tree in the village. A lady was speaking and several others were listening with rapt attention. As we approached the group, the lady Raniamma looked up and glanced at me. Again I was stuck by the serene expression in her eyes. Her eyes were silent, yet her entire countenance was exploding with joy. The devotee said, “Raniamma, tell this sir about your state”. Raniamma replied, ”Where am I to speak, the state will speak”. Listening to this profound statement from a simple village woman, made me believe that this is no utopic concept – this is reality.

 

As we approached the Ashram, situated amidst the mountains, the beauty of the place itself held me spell bound. As we entered the Ashram, I saw the white clad Bhagavad Dasas (Disciples of Kalki) moving around helping people, guiding people, sometimes laughing and lending a helping hand to the devotees. Everywhere I saw, I could only see happy people.

 

That day, a process called the “Mukthi Deeksha” was happening at the Ashram. A Dasa explained that the Deeksha was a process of “Transfer of an altered state”. She further stated that the Deeksha would happen in the presence of Sri Kalki Himself and that He would be transferring the state through His power. She also explained that people entered into tremendous joy and silence after the Deeksha. I waited with baited breath.

 

As the moment of Sri Kalki’s arrival drew close, I saw myself feeling surges of joy from within. It was as though I was also experiencing a glimpse of that ananda that all the people in the Ashram were experiencing.

 

The sacred moment dawned. Sri Kalki entered the Dhyana Vihar. I was transported back in time. The whole process felt so ancient, so powerful, so sacred. I saw many moving instantly into raptures and states of ecstasy. Some, unable to contain that surge of energy were rolling, some with silent tears of joy, some laughing and some absolutely still.

 

I couldn’t believe my eyes! What was I beholding! Nothing could explain this phenomenon. I was speechless, yet many more questions were coming to me. How is all this happening? Who is Kalki indeed?

 

The devotee seeing my question said, “Wait! All your questions will be answered. Sri Kalki has granted you an audience. We will be meeting Him in an hour’s time. That hour seemed like eternity. Finally the moment arrived and I was ushered into His presence.

 

Question: Bhagavan, what is the difference between your teachings and the other great teachings?

 

Sri Kalki: Basically, for example, other teachers say, “Be aware of your mind. Be a witness…” and all those things. What I am saying is, “It is not possible for man. Most teachings are impractical. If one tries to practice it, he might actually go into certain problems you know. Like, he may become insane. People will become depressed, all kinds of problem will occur. People may commit suicide. Many things will happen like that, because those teachings cannot be practiced. For example, they talk about “Practicing Awareness”. That’s impossible! To practice it. But, my statement is – They are describing their state. They did not practice those things and get that state. They got that state. Because they got that state, it was possible for them to be aware of. Without the state you cannot be aware of. Similarly, when it comes to Ramana Maharishi, my stand is - Ramana Maharishi first had a death experience. Therefore the question “Who am I” made sense to him. But to a person without a death experience it won’t make any sense. So, my stand is – Most teachings won’t work. They give some clarity about life. But then you cannot practice them, because you must be in an altered state of consciousness. Then it is very natural.

 

For example, it is very natural for a man to be jealous, very natural for a man to be angry. So, if you are talking about not being jealous, not being angry - you must be like a Buddha or a Christ. Buddha and Christ had a different state of consciousness. So, my stand is, I will give you that state. Once I have given you that state, then naturally you have no jealousy, you have no anger, you have no frustration, you have love and bliss. But you can’t try to get love, because the love that we are talking about is unconditional love. However much you try you can’t get there. You are full of jealousy. Through effort you can’t get to non-jealousy. From jealousy you can only go into jealousy, you can’t go into non- jealousy. So whatever you do, you are trapped.

So my whole thing is – this whole thing is not a psychological process. It is a biological process. Now what I do is, I basically work on the human brain to activate this mystical power. So infact I myself don’t have to work directly also. These Dasas who are enlightened, they are in tune with me. Everyday we do this process. I transfer the power to them and they inturn will go and touch. Then, as they touch, the brain undergoes a transformation. So, to me, if you take Ramana Maharishi, his brain underwent that transformation. Therefore Ramana Maharishi is in that state. Jiddu Krishnamurthy is in that state because his brain underwent that process. A Buddha is a Buddha because his brain underwent that process. So, unless your brain also undergoes that process, you cannot be a Buddha, you cannot be a Ramana Maharishi, you cannot be a Jiddu Krishnamurthy. You cannot be anybody.

 

So that is why I am telling, all teachings are useless. All that they can do is that they can make you into a seeker. You start desiring for it. They are describing Bombay, so begin to seek Bombay. You know there is no way for you to get to Bombay, because you must undergo the same Neuro-Biological transformation that these teachers underwent. What is involved here is Neuro-Biology. So what we give is called the “Deeksha”. The Deeksha is transfer of power to certain parts of the brain. Then certain parts get activated, certain parts get deactivated and you can get into any spiritual states you seek for. It could be a Christian state, it could be an Islamic state, it could be a Buddhist state, or a Taoist state. So each of these states depend on a particular activity of the brain. So I belong to all faiths. I have Christians, I have Muslims in the movement, you know. So whatever state you want I can give it to you. So, my whole teaching is – IT HAS TO BE GIVEN TO YOU.

 

Question: Is there any difference between the various states you mentioned – the Buddhist, Islam, Christian and the Taoist states?

 

Sri Kalki: There is a difference. A Buddhist state will be, for example, technically when we speak, you know what is called the Agneya Chakra? If that Chakra is activated you get a Buddhist state. If Visshudhi is activated you get a Islamic state. If Anahatha is activated you get a Christian state. If the Sahasrara is activated you get a Hindu state. So these Chakras are actually located in different parts of the brain. But what is common is, in all those states there is no suffering. There is love. There is joy. But the actual experience is different between each state. So as far as I am concerned, you choose your state and I am prepared to give you that state. I can just give it to you, because I know what technicality is behind it. WITHOUT KNOWING THE TECHNICALITY, SIMPLY GOING ON TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, WHAT IS THE USE? AND THE POOR SEEKER GOES ON LISTENING TO TEACHINGS. BUT THINGS WON’T HAPPEN. HE’LL LOOSE INTEREST IN HIS FAMILY LIFE, HE’LL LOOSE INTEREST IN THE WORLD. ULTIMATELY HE’LL BECOME DEPRESSED. 30 TO 40 YEARS HE WILL BE SEEKING. HE WILL BE DOING SADHANA. HE’LL GET SOME PEACE, SOME JOY, BUT NO PROGRESS. HE BEGINS TO LOOSE INTEREST IN SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGION. HE BECOMES FRUSTRATED. THEN ULTIMATELY HE BECOMES A NUISANCE IN THE FAMILY ITSELF. BEING A FRUSTRATED MAN HE CANNOT ENJOY LIFE. SO HE BECOMES A BURDEN ON OTHERS. ANYBODY WHO IS UNHAPPY, WHO IS FRUSTRATED, WHO IS SUFFERING, HE WILL CAUSE TROUBLE TO OTHERS.

 

So that is why I do not believe in propagating teachings. My thing is – Come, straight away get the state. After you have got the state, use the teachings to understand the state. Suppose you are in a Buddhist state, the Buddhist teachings will help you know exactly where you are. A Christian teaching will help you get clarity into a Christian state. The teachings come after the state, not before. SO I MAINTAIN, ALL TEACHERS ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. So, if you are a good teacher, give the seeker the state. Give it to him first. After having given it, then give the teaching. You may give a little in the beginning to help him seek. That’s all. Then quickly go on to the state itself. IF YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO GIVE THE STATE, THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK.

 

Suppose I am talking to you something, I must be in a position to give you that state. If I cannot give you, I should not talk. I should not say – “Oh, so beautiful my state is. You also try, you will get it.” Well, it does not happen that way. Ramana Maharishi did not apply his teachings to himself. He first got the state. It happened to him. Then he began to speak. Jiddu Krishanmurthy, did not apply his teachings. He got the state. Thereafter he began to talk. So, is there any single teacher who has applied his teaching and got there? Nobody. So when you have not applied and got there, how is it you teach others? You are telling, “You practice compassion, you practice love, you over come lust”. Is it so easy to overcome lust? Do this and do that. And the poor fellow keeps trying and trying. And the enlightened person is made into a model. He thinks that’s how you become that. He is trying and he is ruined. That is why I am against the practice of spirituality. So in that way I am very very different from other teachers. They say – Nobody can give it to you. You have to make it on your own. I am telling, “Till dooms day you will not make it on your own. It has to be given to you”. Exactly opposite. That’s where we differ.

 

Everyday I am producing hundreds of sages. You can come and see. It’ll take 3 to 4 minutes. That’s all. One touch and a seer is produced. You can meet the villagers – Muniamma, Kuppamma, Munuswamy – in unimaginable states. All that happened was just one touch. Then the teachings come out. NOW IF THEY TALK, THEY WILL EXCEL SOME OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS OF ALL TIMES. BECAUSE THEIR STATE IS TALKING. You can see live people, ordinary people, ordinary villagers, not just one or two – hundreds. Fully enlightened, who can do miracles, healing miracles. So, this is a strange village. Even as you walk you will be meeting Ramana Maharishis and Buddhas. But only things is they are not as famous as Ramana Maharishi and Buddha. They are ordinary people. That is the only difference. When you talk you will know. “My goddness what is this!” They have been produced liked that.

 

If you are a true guru, you must produce it. Otherwise why do you teach ?

 

Question: Is this movement based on scientific theories?

 

Sri Kalki: Mine is purely science. See if I meet a Neuro-Biologist, I will talk to him in terms of temporal lobes, parietal lobes - so I will talk in terms of pure science. So I go hand in hand with science. I welcome science and I believe the day has come when science and spirituality go together. So for me everything is science only.

 

Miracles do happen. This movement is producing healers everyday. So we train up people to be very good healers. Some miracles I do myself.

 

If you talk of science, there was a lady recently whose tongue was cut off in the cancer institute. Now the tongue has come. But, they are not speaking a word about it. They are only telling that Chemotherapy was done and it became alright. They are not speaking one word about the growth of the tongue. That, I am saying is not science. If you are true to science you must say, “The tongue has grown”. You must investigate it. How can you suppress a fact? When you have cut a tongue and the tongue has come back. This does not happen in western countries.

 

Question: Bhagavan, are you God?

 

Sri Kalki: Basically, it is like this. God essentially is unmanifest. That is, He cannot be seen, He cannot be spoken to. But He is there. But since you cannot see, you cannot speak to, He is as good as not being there as far as you are concerned.

 

Then, the God that people normally talk about is the God who you call as Antaryamin. i.e., He can be seen inside, you can talk inside; He can appear to so many and disappear. That’s what people normally refer to as God. Sometimes God can incarnate in physical form. That’s what is called an Avatar. I am an Avatar. In that sense I am God. But if you ask me – am I that unmanifest God right now, I am certainly not because I am fully physical. But I am God in the sense that I am an Avatar. So, God has these three faces. The example I give for this is - steam, water and ice. They are the same thing. As steam, it is everywhere. You can’t control it. A liquid is more controlled, but still it is moving. Ice is much more solid. The physical Avatar is something very solid. So, Miracles happen around the physical Avatar. You can come to me. You can talk to me about your problem. The problem is solved. If you come to me, I can say, “OK, this will happen, that will happen”. Many, many miracles will happen. Now, it is very easy to contact me than to contact the manifested God and still more difficult to contact the unmanifest God. That is the advantage. You take my picture and you talk to me. The response comes back.

 

And I am not claiming that I am the only Avatar. There have been Avatars from time to time. The world is full of Avatars through whom God is acting. That’s all.

 

Question: How can we tackle the Ayodhya issue?

 

Sri Kalki: To me all problems, whether they are economical problems, or political problems, they all emanate from one basic problem. That is, man is not Enlightened. So, if one problem disappears, another problem will crop up, if you are not Enlightened. Today, it might be Ayhodhya, tomorrow it might be something else. So the ultimate solution is that man must become Enlightened. And I maintain that large numbers of people will become Enlightened, starting from June 2004 and by September-November 2012, most of humanity will be Enlightened. When that happens? The problem will just disappear. That is my solution to the world’s problems. I don’t believe in national boundaries. Dividing the world into nations, into countries, into religions – as long as there are divisions there will be suffering. All divisions must go. If all divisions must go, the ‘Self’ must go. That is Enlightenment. Unless man becomes Enlightened, there will one problem or the other. Say there is water in the pipe. If you press it here, it will bulge somewhere else. If you press it there, it will bulge somewhere else again. Ayodhya might go, something else might crop up. Where is the end to all this ? So, the ultimate solution is that man must be transformed. If man is going to live the way he is living, he will destroy himself. With all these nuclear weapons, ecological pollutions and other conflicts. We are only racing towards destruction. Unless there is a transformation in his consciousness and he becomes a totally new being, there is no hope for man. I am interested in man’s problem. That will take care of this problem also.

 

Suppose Hindus and Muslims, they can no more see themselves as Hindus and Muslims, where is the Ayodhya problem? But otherwise where is the solution? The same thing can be applied for India-Pakistan also. It also boils down to a religious problem only. And you must out grow religion, which means you must outgrow the ‘Self’. So, we need a radical transformation of man, which is possible. I never talk about that which is impossible. I can demonstrate to you that it is possible.

 

Question: What is the root cause of fundamentalism? How can it be rooted out?

 

Sri Kalki: You see, fundamentalism is basically because people are not able to cope up with the changes that are happening. The world is moving too, too, too fast. So the old is not prepared to give way to the new. If you are not prepared to give way to the new, then fundamentalism arises. It can be Islamic fundamentalism, it can be Christian fundamentalism, it can be Hindu fundamentalism. But the fact is we cannot stop these changes from occurring. So, more changes are likely to take place and there could be a growth in fundamentalism also. Again and again I see only Enlightenment as the solution, because the world is growing very very fast. You are not prepared to give up your old ways, which means you have become a fundamentalist. That’s what is happening. Islamic world is not able to cope up with the changes that are occurring and that is the root cause of fundamentalism. So, if you must be able to cope up with these changes, you must outgrow the ‘Self’. So, ultimately, you come back to enlightenment as the solution.

 

Question: How can we achieve this kind of Enlightenment?

 

Sri Kalki: What I am maintaining is - 60,000 people must become fully enlightened. If 60,000 people become fully enlightened, all else is automatic. i.e. Automatically everywhere people will become enlightened. That’s all. It’s automatic. A natural process. But to trigger it 60,000 people must go into a very high state of enlightenment. If they emerge on the planet, then the whole planet will be in that state. So my work is only to produce those 60,000 people. So, I believe that by 2012 I will be able to achieve it. Latest is 2012. It could well happen before that. When that happens, their mere presence on the planet brings the transformation. You don’t have to know about the movement, come to the movement, nothing. Wherever you are, suddenly one fine morning you will be enlightened. You’ll become very calm, loving and peaceful. It’s natural. It happens. That’s all. That’s what we are doing. So we have allotted some numbers to every country. We have people in every country. All are working towards this. So, if 60,000 people if we successfully reach, it’s all over.

 

Question: What is your vision and mission?

 

Sri Kalki: My vision is that there must be the Golden Age by 2012. My mission is to make 60,000 people enlightened. That’s my mission. The way is – I give Deeskha. That’s my vision, mission and way. I simply give Deeksha. I am not asking you to do some terrible practice. You simply come and take Deeksha. That’s all. You are enlightened. Like this I want 60,000 people.

 

Question: Is the state you intend to give a permanent and irreversible one?

 

Sri Kalki: Yes, yes. Because this is a Neuro-Biological transformation. It is not psychological. If it is psychological, it’ll come, it’ll go. I am not working on the software. I am working on the hardware - the brain itself. I am bringing about the mutation of the brain. Because when the brain has changed, the hardware has changed. It’s permanent. If it’s only in the software, it’ll be there for a few days, few hours, few minutes, few seconds and go away. This is a hardware transformation. You can meet these enlightened people actually to understand this transformation. I am not talking about something that is going to happen in the future. I am talking about things that have happened. Its finished. We have every country. We have Japanese, we have Russians, we have Americans, we have Swedes, we have Indians, all in these states. We are producing more and more. That’s what it is. We are basically giving it to people.

 

Question: After bringing in the Golden Age, what is next?

 

Sri Kalki: See, the ‘next’ is of no consequence to me at all. Because what would have happened is, in the Golden Age, people would be happy. My only goal is to make people happy. Once that happens, it’s Good Bye. They can do whatever they want. I have no other goal. It is to make people happy. That’s all. After that they should be full of joy and bliss. There should no suffering. If a person is happy – eating, drinking, walking – everything is joy for him. So, whether he is driving a Bullock cart on the road, that’s not my problem. But you should be happy.

 

Question: Can you tell us about your transformation from Vijay Kumar to Kalki Bhagavan?

 

Sri Kalki: See, there has been no psychological transformation in my consciousness. From day one, it has been the same.

 

Question: Who is your guru?

 

Sri Kalki: I have no guru. It is not that I was seeking enlightenment and I finally became enlightened. For me from day one it’s the same thing. This Vijay Kumar to Kalki transformation happened in a place called Somangalam, Madras, where we had retreats. Some people began to see me coming in a horse – a vision, with a sword and all that. So they began to use the word Kalki. Slowly it began to spread. And they were composing some songs and they were singing. That’s how it got stuck. We made some efforts to remove that name. But the more we made efforts the more it got stuck. Especially, people in North India refused to accept any other name.

 

But I am not saying that I am the Kalki of the puranas. That Kalki who is suppose to come after some 4 lakh years, when people will become so small that they will climb up a brinjal plant on a ladder. So I am not claiming all those things at all. Simply it’s a name. What I am maintaining is – Yes, I can give Enlightenment. I have the power to give Enlightenment. This is the highest. In India it is believed that only the greatest Avatar of God can give Enlightenment. That’s the general belief. You can do miracles, but giving Enlightenment is a different story. I am not claiming anything more. You come, whether you have faith or not, belief or not, I can still give it to you. That’s all there is to it.

 

Question: Is there Mukthi? Is it possible to achieve?

 

Sri Kalki: Yes … hundreds achieved Mukthi. Thousands infact. Not just hundreds. Its not a question of – can they achieve. They have achieved it. It’s over. You should meet and talk to them. You must meet Mukthas.

 

Question: Is it possible to picturise that state of mind?

 

Sri Kalki: You can’t picturise it.

 

Question: Do all the Mukthas have miraculous power?

 

Sri Kalki: Not exactly. Some have the power to heal and some don’t have. Not that every Muktha has got the power to do something. Some have, some don’t have. That depends upon what you are seeking. Some have no interest in miracles, so for such people we won’t give those powers.

 

Question: Is it possible to eliminate Human suffering through Dhyana?

 

Sri Kalki: See, Dhyana can help reduce the suffering a little bit. Beyond that any Sadhanas are useless. All Sadhanas are only upto a point. After that the returns are not there. It’s not worth it. Upto a point, yes it’s OK. The only solution is Enlightenment. When Enlightenment happens you are in a state of Dhyana 24 hours.

 

Question: For all social, political and economical problems, is Enlightenment the solution?

 

Sri Kalki: Yes.

 

Question: Only solution?

 

Sri Kalki: Yes. The only solution. The ultimate solution. Let us say a man and a woman are fighting. Suppose he or she is enlightened, there is no fight. The Gundas in this Village (Varadhayapalem, Andhra Pradesh) are conducting Sathsang now. This is a place where, when I came, people told me – Why did you come to this place? It is such a terrible place. Full of wife-beating. I said – I want exactly that place. Today the Gundas are conducting sathsangs. So what has happened is transformation. They don’t drink. There is no wife beating. Everything has happened. Here, water used to stagnate and there used to be cesspool everywhere. Now everybody is co-operating. So, there is drainage and water does not stagnate anywhere. There is a health revolution taking place. People have stopped drinking. There is no wife beating. There is love in the family. Everything is changing, through Enlightenment. What could not be achieved by any rural organization has been achieved by transforming the person.

 

Question: What is the real meaning of Enlightenment?

 

Sri Kalki: See, to be enlightened is not to feel separate from the other. You are there. You feel you are separate from all these people. Suppose you are to become enlightened, you will say you only are the other. If you feel that way, where can there be conflict? There can only be love. Isn’t it? That’s all there is to it. And always there is happiness also. A happy person cannot trouble others. An unhappy person will be pinching other. Will give pain to others. After Enlightenment nobody gives trouble to another. Everybody is happy. You will find in this village, all people gathering, singing and dancing. All kinds. Caste is not a problem. Once you are Enlightened there is no caste. The Harijan, the Bramhin, all will be singing and dancing. Everything goes off.

The caste is gone. Muslims dancing with Hindus – you can see it in this village. Everything has happened because they are in a different state. They are all helping. You don’t find street fights. Completely transformed. And we had taken up this place because it was a horrible place. That’s where we have proved it. Total transformation.

 

Every month we are having a program. Atleast 500 people come for Enlightenment from the local villages. People are standing in a queue, because we cannot take more than that. It is spreading very fast. Imagine the whole of India Enlightened. Then, what happens to all the problems that we are talking about? There is a coolie in this village who is Enlightened. Now, every rich man wants her to come their house and perform Kalasha Pooja in their house. It’s a pride to invite her to their house now. All social dynamics have changed.

 

Westerners are also watching us very closely, because their interest is that, if it can be done in other in other countries then terrorism can be avoided. That is their interest. Therefore they are studying us very closely. How come people are getting transformed so suddenly? Because this does not take much time. Yesterday you were very ordinary. Today you are transformed. Just 24 hours. And it’s irreversible and permanent. So what more can somebody ask for? Poor people in villages are dancing in joy and they call their dance “The dance of Freedom”. Even the richest man in Karnataka cannot have 1/1000th of their joy. And ofcourse along with this joy you will also become prosperous. The mind is so clear. Whatever they touch, it is successful.

 

Question: If Veerapan or Bin Laden are given the Deeksha, will they also be transformed?

 

Sri Kalki: Yes. If you bring Veerappan or Bin Laden, they’ll be completely transformed. It’ll be over. Anybody can be transformed. Straight from jail you can bring them. In regular jails of Andra Pradesh, we brought about tremendous transformation. Strangely their cases have been dismissed and they all have gone out also without criticizing the Government (at Srikakulam). We have also had requests from other countries like Siberia to go and work in their jails.

 

Question: What are the means to become happy?

 

Sri Kalki: To me happiness is when you help others. But helping others is not so easy. When I do this Neuro-Biologial transformation, you naturally feel like helping others. And as you help others you become happy. You can try and see. When you help you become happy. But you must be naturally helping others, which is a state of mind.

 

Question: What is your expectation from the press?

 

Sri Kalki: The press must play a very constructive role in building the society. It is very often portraying negative news. It must do something very positive because it is a very powerful tool. It can really push people to do certain things. If that can be achieved it is a great thing.

 

Question: How is it going to be in the next 10 years?

 

Sri Kalki: I am producing Enlightened people by the hundreds everyday. Soon its going to be an explosion. I will say this is the last phase of man. It is like – Man has been building a house for so many thousands of years now. And 2004 to 2012 is the grahapravesham. Man has reached the final stage after all these years of struggle. You will see a very different world, which you cannot even imagine now and it will happen very fast. Very very fast.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Could this be true? And if it is, why are you not all running to him to get his grace and be enlightended?

 

For me this sounds very reasonable and also very tempting. But my mother once told that when someone tells you exatly what you want to hear, you should be sceptical.

 

So, what do you think? Is he for real, or is he a con? I know he can't be Kalki Avatar, because he will not come before the end of kali yuga which is some 400.000 years from now. But he does not say so either. Can he still be an incarnarnation of god, who can give enlightenment like he says? Does the vedas describe all the avatars that will ever come? Or is it possible for God to incarnate as an avatar whenever it is nescessary?

 

If he is a con he is pretty stupid, because he is maiking big assertions that he will have to fulfil within a short time(2012).

 

And what about the golden age that Sri Kalki is talking about? Is that the age that is supposed to come after kali yuga? Or is it just a part of kali yuga?

 

I read an article on this website: "Prophecy of the Golden Age from the Brahma Vaivarta Purana" by Jahnava Nitai Das ( http://www.indiadivine.org/brahma-vaivarta-purana1.htm ). He says that within the 432,000 year period og kali yuga, there is a period of 10,000 years that will be a golden age. That golden age is being described by Lord Sri Krishna in the Brahma-vaivarta Purana. He also says that 5000 years will be sinful and that we have just passed 5000 years of degradation and darkness. I didn't quite understand when those 10000 years that will be a golden age should start, but I got the impression that it could be now. Could this be the same golden age that Sri Kalki says he will bring?

[Guest guest]

You can wait 400,000 years if you wish, sir. Surely no one will try and stop you.

 

For those-a high proportion of them Kalki devotees-that have experienced the Awakening of the Antaryamin followed by enlightenment experiences He has given, the Kingdom has come. Heaven has met Earth.

 

They have entered the Golden Age which is a state of consciousness as well as an astrological event.

 

 

"No Avatar has ever Failed" Sri Kalki

[Guest guest]

in gita the lord says that he comes to fulfill the prophecies of scriptures

 

scriptures say that for kalki we have to wait... 428.000 yrs...

 

use the brain

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well it seems to be that we are more attached to scriptures than the sufferings happening in and around us, The time when we reach the peak of suffering in day to day life we just look out for prayer to god , we know this.. and we have exerienced this and right now it is what happening we are all seriously looking for solution for our suffering, at this right time if god intends to help us out showing the way , then its quite sensible to do something that saves us from destroying eachother. lets open up to this channel , let the divine grace flow as much as possible reaching every being and enlightening all of us , lets focus on practicality than being theoritical , god thank you for being so compassionate to us. thank you for saving us....

 

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"well it seems to be that we are more attached to scriptures than the sufferings happening in and around us"

 

simply we don't like to be cheated, and if one's cheating saying that he's kalki what compassion he can teach to others?

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so which is right?

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on the date of sri kalki appearance there's not much debate.... kaly yuga beginning was 5000 yrs ago, and kali yuga lasts for 432000 yrs

 

at the end of kali age kalki comes, no doubt, who says different has nothing more to show out than some sentiment and blind faith... that in itself are not bad, but numbers and dates are numbers and dates, not faith or opinions

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how were they derived?

 

Just wondering.

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Sri Kalki in the text above does not say that he is Kalki Avatar. But can he still be an avatar of god? And/or can he have the power to enligthen people?

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the advent of avatars is exactly prophetized in vedic literature, so if one is not there he's not an avatara.. and he cannot enlightn people because he has started with a cheat

 

how a liar can enlighten? how can he give truth?

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So noone ca be enlightened for the next 432000 years? Is God limited buy the vedas? Can't he send an avatar or enlighten people whenever he want to?

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are the sole source of knowledge? That they're totally accurate and can't be wrong?

 

They're written by man, just like all other scriptures have been. They have been written by men in a God-realized state, so that you could say that they are eternal and derived by God, but that's not literally true, and it's not like the vedas couldn't have been added on to by people not of that God-realized state. If there were additions to the vedas by people who aren't God-realized men, then obviously the vedas would have to be taken with a grain of salt.

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So noone ca be enlightened for the next 432000 years?

##no there's many honest spiritual masters, messengers of god, who do not cheat others saying they are god... if you follow a pure uru you receive the vision of god, but "officially" kalki comes at the end of this yuga

 

Is God limited buy the vedas?

##no, but he chooses to fulfill their predictions to give them value as a guidance for mankind

 

Can't he send an avatar or enlighten people whenever he want to?

##he's free, but the fact that he's free it is not an advice for us to accept any cheater as god only because he says so.... if i say that i am george bush writing as a guest in this forum, do you accept it easily? and it is infinitely more possible that i am really george bush that a man is sri kalki only because he says it

 

so do not be easy to believe things, life is very short, better to use it to worship really god and not fake gods

 

are the sole source of knowledge? That they're totally accurate and can't be wrong?

##if they are wrong why a man call himself with a vedic name of god to legitimate himself? if you do not care of vedas why put this emphasis that he's kalki avatara?

 

If there were additions to the vedas by people who aren't God-realized men, then obviously the vedas would have to be taken with a grain of salt.

##so you have to abandone this guru, his behaviour and style is "vedic inspirated".. why follow a man with a vedic name of god, with a vedic-like concept of guru tattva and vedic-like phylosophy and style?

 

if you do not like vedas run away immediately, he advertise himself as the god of vedas

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would suggest that you discover or find answers for all your seeking by attending a satsang of Bhagwan in your place .

There are many people out there who are already enlightened.

 

 

 

 

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I would very much like to attend a satsang of Bhagwan. I have been looking for a Bhagwan. But a Bhagwan is not very easy to find?

 

But how do I know if a person is a real Bhagwan and not a cheat?

 

I live in Norway. There are not many hindu gurus here. But I have found som yoga teachers. What do you know about the Ananda Marga organization founded buy Shrii Shrii Anandamurti (P.R. Sarkar). And what do you know about the Bihar tradition(also called Satyananda yoga) founded by swami Satyananda a disciple of Swami Sivananda?

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you are special in finding cheaters

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The last Bhagvan of the recent past was Bhagvan Ramana Maharishi. There werent anybody after that.

 

All the materialisations, bringing gold rings, claiming oneself to be god are all fake.

 

 

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so many bhagavan

 

wow... Lord Narayana will be having a nice laughing time.

 

man guys wake up. Sometime go slap these gods and see how easily you can beat them.

 

and try doing that to Narsimha, Varaha, Krishna, Rama etc......

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And what is that supposed to mean?

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that it is sadly very easy to say "i am god" and find poor people to cheat.. if one comes and say "i am a policeman" everyone wants to see documents, credentials and so on, if one says "i am god".. no problem. Add him to the list of bhagavan

 

and the religions of india appear as a big mess to other countries.. thanks to this fake "bhagavans"

 

so let us be more serious

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that it is sadly very easy to say "i am god" and find poor people to cheat*******

 

Aham Bramhasmin. That is the perception while in one of the states of enlightenment the one that they call Kalki Bhagavan gives. It is a very high state-once common to the many of the greatest enlightened sages of India.

 

Would you expect an enlightened one not to declare himself as a god? That's preety much the perception and what has been seen can rarely be unseen.

 

Aham Bramhasmin- It is a common realization in some of the higher states of enlightenment.

 

Otherwise the illusionary sense of separate existence would still be there and the master would be as ignorant as you or I. Some of the dynamics of this is explained by a dasa of Kalki, an enlightened woman called Acharya Sri Samadarshini at www.vedicshamanism.com/index38.html

 

 

 

Go to him. He will give you the experience of that state and you will no longer be saddened that someone has made that profound realization and amazing declaration.

 

He has given several Americans some siddhi powers hat can be of great help such as Dharma Dharini of Arizona who can help open channels thru touch for those seeking the experience of God realization or Sri Rani of San Jose who can give enlightenment experiences thru touch so at the very least a being gets a glimpse of that which he or she is seeking and chattering about.

 

 

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The European connection is www.livinginjoy.com

 

 

 

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Aham Bramhasmin. That is the perception while in one of the states of enlightenment the one that they call Kalki Bhagavan gives.

--the perception to be god cannot be given by anyone.. god does not forget to be god, so there's no need to have someone remembering it (god is CIT.. eternally conscious)

 

Would you expect an enlightened one not to declare himself as a god?

––enlightened means that he receives light from some source, so the source is superior to him

 

Otherwise the illusionary sense of separate existence would still be there and the master would be as ignorant as you or I.

--if we have separated existence in this relative world, we have it also in the absolute one. So brahman undifferentiated cannot be the ultimate reality. If you want to know kalki avatara you have to read bhagavata purana, and if you read it completely you will discover that beyond material variety there's a spiritual variety called vaikunta with god and enlightened souls separated to enjoy of their recipracation but united by an eternal loving relationship. Eternal means that supreme is eternally supreme and subordinate is eternally subordinate

 

Go to him. He will give you the experience of that state and you will no longer be saddened that someone has made that profound realization and amazing declaration.

--so show me better this master.. with these informations he seems one who is usurpating the name of an avatara that we are waiting 425000 years from now and giving some simple pseudo advaitin explanations bordering in cheap new age

 

He has given several Americans some siddhi powers

--ok

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the perception to be god cannot be given by anyone,****

 

It is apparent in all the great scriptures with the appearance of an avatar. Even after death such as when the Christ appeared to the Apostle Paul and the experience totally transformed him. No avatar has ever failed.

 

In the ancient sense of the word enlightenment is very clsoely realted to liberation from suffering. It is more of an emptying rather than a receiving something. If you would bother to visist Kalki Bhagavan and recieve the dikshas and experiences of enlightenment this would be apparent to you. How can you put light into something that it intrisically empty and expect it to have some lasting impact? I am curious of your perception that enlightenment has to do with receiving light. It is more an unlearning than a learning.

 

 

The connection is sometimes very hard to see between enlightenment and suffering but if you consider the ancient sutra that the suffering is in the perception of the fact rather than in the fact it is apparent that the root of all suffering is ignorance.

 

It is much easier for the mind to see ignorance and enlightenment as opposing realities than suffering and enlightenment.

 

Go to see and see for yourself then you will be in a postion to debate with those who have had experiences to rival Rama Krishna, Moses or Arjuna's (basically the average garden variey Kalki devotee for starters).

 

It is apparent from your words that you are writing from concepts and beliefs rather than experience and that sir is merely perpetuating datkness and ignorance.