barney Posted March 1, 2004 Report Share Posted March 1, 2004 Kalki's war with China (or maybe, North Korea) The great conqueror, Kalki then paid homage to his father and started for conquering Kikatpur with his army. The Buddhists live in that city. The residents of that city do not worship God or their forefathers. They do not fear after-life. Other than the body, they do not believe in any soul. They do not have any pride in their lineage or in their race; money, marriage etc. are insignificant to them. People of that place eat and drink a variety of things. When Jin (the leader) heard that Kalki has come to fight them, he gathered a huge army and went out of the city to fight Him. ~ Kalki Purana, II[6], Verses 40 to 44 Although the city of Kikatpur is unidentified, yet it is specified that "Buddhists" live there. But the descriptions of the belief of those people are anything but Buddhist and are more in consonance with the ideology of the Communists, i.e. people who do not worship God, do not believe in after-life, soul, race and the significance of wealth and give the collective more importance than the individual. The choice of foods of the Chinese (or Koreans) are also considered exotic in other parts of the world. Interestingly, the name of the leader is also mentioned as "Jin". As we all know, Jin, Xin or Xian are very common names among the Chinese. On 15th March 2003 the Chinese Communist Party elected Hu Jintao as the new President of China. By religion, China (or Korea) is predominantly Buddhist, although no religion is allowed to be openly practiced under the Communist rule. Thus the description of the belief of the people and their religion are not contradictory but very appropriate. He (Jin) took up various types of arms and started war with Kalki. Even the Gods were surprised by the techniques of war adopted by Jin. Jin injured Kalki's horse with a javelin and made him disoriented and unconscious and attempted to take him away, but could not lift him...On seeing that, King Vishakhjupa got angry and encountered Jin and picked up unconscious Kalki in his own chariot. Kalki regained his consciousness in a while and encouraged his soldiers; following that, he rushed towards Jin after getting down from the chariot of Vishakhjupa. ~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 5, 6, 8, 9 It seems that Jin was not a mean enemy and Kalki did not have a smooth ride either and had his moments of ups and downs. Of course this is what is expected if a western force confronts the mighty Chinese army, the biggest in the world in terms of numbers. Soon, Garga (associate of Kalki) and his army killed 6000 Buddhist soldiers. Bharga and his soldiers killed and injured 11 million enemy soldiers and his mighty allies killed 2500 of them. Kobi along with his sons killed 2 million enemy soldiers, Pragya killed 1 million and Sumantu killed 5 million soldiers. ~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 5, 6, 8, 9 It seems that Kalki and his allies kill or injure an army which is almost 20 million strong. An army of this huge proportions can only be assembled by a country like China and its allies. Thus, the attack on the city of Kikatpur does not merely represent an attack on a city but on a country, probably in alliance with others. Soon Kalki smiled and said unto Jin - O Sinner ! Don't flee but come and face me...Soon your body will be pierced with my arrows. Soon you shall depart from this world. Then, no one will go along with you. So, you and your allies surrender before me. On hearing the words of Kalki, mighty Jin said "The fate can never be seen. I am a materialist, Buddhist. Nothing but the perceptible are accepted by us. The unseen and the imperceptible are banished by us. Hence your effort is fruitless. Even if you are Godly, I am before you; see if you manage to kill me. In that event, will the Buddhists forgive you? ~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 15 to 18 Once again, the ideology of Jin is apparent from his own words. This is contrary to what the Buddhists profess - Buddhists believe in fate, soul and rebirth like the Hindus. But this "Buddhist" does not believe in fate or the imperceptible and this ideology is not the ideology of any religion, but that of Communism. But for communism, China would have been the world's largest Buddhist country and its people, at least in private, still follow the religion. Verse 26 describes the death of Jin in the hands of Kalki. The next few verses describe the battle between Suddhodhan, the brother of Jin and the forces of Kalki, in which the former manage to inflict some heavy damages on the forces of Kalki, using, among other things an weapon if illusion (Maya). Ultimately Kalki managed to defeat the Buddhist forces who either died, lay injured or fled the battlefield. But it was not the end of the war yet. On the verge of the defeat of the "Buddhist" army, their womenfolk gathered to battle Kalki and his allies. This is quite unprecedented in the annals of Hindu epics or for that matter, history and stories from anywhere in the world. The wives of the Buddhists, gathered for battle riding on chariots, birds, horses, camels and bulls to defend their husbands. These beautiful, powerful young ladies devoted to their husbands did not seek the shelter of their children. These glorious women, dressed in battle-gear and various jewellery came to the battlefield armed with swords, power-weapons, arrows and javelins. In their hands were heavenly rings. These beautiful women consisted of hair dressers, women devoted to husbands (house-wives) and even prostitutes. These women, troubled by the death of their husbands and fathers came forth to fight the army of Kalki. People even care to protect objects like soil, ashes, wood etc. Therefore, how can these women tolerate the death of their husbands in their presence? The womenfolk of the Buddhists, seeing their husbands injured and troubled came in front of them and started to fight the soldiers of Kalki. Seeing the women take to battle, the soldiers of Kalki were amazed and came to Kalki to inform him about the whole matter in details. Hearing this, Kalki, clever as he is, arrived there on a chariot accompanied by his allies and army with a cheerful mind. Seeing the women astride in various types of vehicles, standing in formations, Kalki started saying "Ladies, please hear what I have to say. It is against the principles for men to fight against women..." ~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 11 to 20 We can guess that Kalki indulged in intense diplomacy to dissuade the women from fighting. Kalki Purana describes in the next few verses the words of Kalki which can be called the unashamed flattery of the women by Kalki. Though not quite relevant, it will show that the Kalki Purana is not simply a text of war and conquest and gloom and doom that we associate these times with. Rather, it shows the human and the spiritual aspects of the whole war. ...On your beautiful moon-like face, falls the locks of fine hair. Everyone's mind become cheerful on seeing this. Which man can hit on such a face? On these beautiful faces are a pair of eyes like lotus with long eyelashes and dark pupil. Which man can hit such a face? Your breasts are decorated like the necklace of Shiva. Even the pride of the cupid gets hurt on seeing this. Which man can hit on such a place? Which man can hit the spotless face of a woman on which play the locks of fine hairs from the head? Which man can hit your slim waists weighed down by breasts and decorated by very fine body-hair? Can any man shoot an arrow in your eye-soothing and feminine pubic area covered by fine hair and untouched by sin? Hearing these words of Kalki, the infidel-women smiled and said - "Sir ! When our husbands died in your hand, we too have died". Saying this, the women prepared to kill Kalki. ~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 21 to 27 All such attempts of eulogizing femininity by Kalki cut no ice with the women. At this point of time however, a miracle happened which persuaded the women from fighting Kalki : ...However the weapons remained in their hands. The various weapons metamorphosed and stood before the infidel-women decorated in gold and said "Ladies! Do ye know Kalki as the Supreme God, empowered by whom we take the lives of living beings. Have confidence in our words. On His command we propagate and on his glory we have attained various forms and by His mercy we have become renowned. By His empowerment does the five elements carry out their own actions. He is the Supreme Being Himself. Under His wishes has the nature created the whole Universe. The creation and the continuity of the creation is nothing but His action. He is the Beginning and the End, from Him arise all the holy things in the world. It is He, who is our husband, our wife, son, friend and relative. From Him comes forth all these illusion-like happenings. Those who know that life and death are nothing but coming and going under the influence of love, affection and fondness, those who are devoid of any feelings of anger and hate, who are the devotees of Kalki, they know the above illusion-like happenings as false. How was Time created? Where does death come from? Who is Yama (Death incarnate and lord of the underworld)? Who are the Gods? By His illusion, it is Kalki who has become many. O Ladies! We are not weapons and no one gets hurt by us. He is the weapon and it is he who hits. These distinctions are nothing but the illusion (Maya) created by the Supreme Being. ...We cannot hit the devotees of Kalki. Hearing the words of the weapons, the women were surprised. They shed their illusion of attachment and came to seek Kalki. ~ Kalki Purana, III[1], Verses 27 to 39 Whether it was a miracle or diplomacy, the end result was that the Buddhist women did not fight Kalki's army, thus averting what could have been the only war between a male and a female army. After the war and victory, Kalki returned from Kikatpur with his army. Nostradamus apparently refers to the fall of China allegorically as well, by referring to the fall of the Great Wall of China - II.57 Before the conflict the Great Wall will fall, the great one to death, death too sudden and lamented, born imperfect: the greater part will swim: Near the river the land stained with blood. Since Kalki Purana refers to the exploits of Kalki only, the details of Chinese advances before the war is not clear. By the own admission of Nostradamus, his prophecies too mostly describe the events in and around Europe. A few other prophecies, however, indicate that China will conquer much of Asia before facing the western alliance. Here are a few such prophecies : "The events taking place in Europe are a deception. Russia will be the scourge for all nations, because it was not converted. Russia attacks the West, and China invades in Asia." - Lucia, the last living seer from Fatima, April 7, 1990 Along with the Chinese incursion in Asia, there will also be a Russian invasion in the Europe. Thus, this world war will not simply be the result of an Arab invasion but an invasion by the alliance of Russia, China and Islamic nations. There are a large number of prophecies about the Russian invasion of Europe and attacks on the USA. The prophecies made by Anton Johansson, Sweden, (1858 - 1909) also specifically mention Chinese attack on India. Johansson successfully predicted the sinking of the Titanic and named one of its victims, millionaire John Jacob Astor VI, foresaw the events of World War I, accurately predicted San Francisco's earthquake of 1906 and a volcanic eruption in 1902 that demolished the city of St. Pierre, Martinique. He said the Third World War would break out at "the end of July, beginning of August." adding, "I do not know the year." (the "Calamitous War" under Cancer mentioned by Nostradamus) - - India will be occupied by China. - New diseases used as weapons will cause 25 million people to die. - Persia and Turkey will be conquered apparently by Russian troops. - Revolutionaries will instigate unrest and war in India and Egypt to facilitate the occupation of India and Europe. - The Russians will conquer the Balkans. - There will be great destruction in Italy. - The "red storm" will approach France through Hungary, Austria, northern Italy and Switzerland. France will be conquered from inside and outside. - American supply depots will fall into Russian hands. - Germany will be attacked from the east. - There will be a civil war, Germans will fight against Germans. - The Eastern Bloc will cause a civil war in England. - Russia will lead a mass attack against the United States, so U.S. forces will be prevented from reinforcing Europe. - New weapons will cause huge hurricanes and firestorms in the USA where the largest cities will be destroyed. Kalki's war with Koli (The Antichrist) and Gog & Magog [Dharma (Righteousness or Law) said to Kalki] "Right now, infidels like Saka, Kamboja, Sabara etc. are under the control of Koli and that mighty Koli has defeated me taking advantage of the influence of the time. The pious men are being tortured and consigned to the flames. That's why I have come for your protection. ~ Kalki Purana, III[6], Verse 22 Thus, Kalki, surrounded by his allies set out for the desired place for conquering the infidels like Khasha, Kamboja, Sabara, Barbarians etc. ... The people who lived there carry out the orders of women. Hearing that Kalki has come for battle, the angry Koli, along with his allies, sons and grandsons came riding on a chariot out of the city of Bishasan. On seeing Koli, Kalki ordered his followers to engage in battle with him. ~ Kalki Purana, III[6], Verses 32, 33, 35, 36 Revelations 19:19 I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him who sat on the horse, and against his army. Lord Kalki, along with his soldiers armed with various types of weapons engaged in war with Kok and Bikok. These two brothers are supreme demons, great fanatics and adept in the art of war. These brothers are intimately connected, powerful, hard to defeat and are even feared by the Gods. ~ Kalki Purana, III[6], Verses 43 & 44 The surprise elements here are the description of the war with brothers called "Kok and Bikok", who are allied with Koli. These are surely Gog and Magog described in the Biblical book of Revelations and "Yajooj and Majooj" described in the Islamic prophecies. Soon they entered the city of Bishasan, the capital of Koli, and burnt down the city using fiery missile. Alongwith the city, Koli too was burnt and his sons and relatives were destroyed. ~ Kalki Purana, III[7], Verses 9 & 10 The army of Kalki entered the capital city of Koli called Bishasan (Babylon?) and burnt down the whole city along with Koli himself and its citizens. Similarly, the allies of Kalki used various types of weapons and defeated the countries and their kings allied with Koli. Compare this with the Revelations : 19:20 The beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who worked the signs in his sight, with which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. The verses 14 to 34 of III[7] describe the terrible fight of Kalki with "Kok and Bikok" (Gog and Magog). At one point of time, the "brothers" managed to defeat Kalki in a battle and injure him. However, later the allies used a certain kind of weapon to defeat Bikok. But soon he was resurrected with the help of Kok. This went on for quite sometime before both were killed at the same time. Revelations 20:8 and he (Satan) will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war; the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. The war against Vallat and the marriage treaty Thus, after attaining victory, Kalki started for the city of Vallat ruled by the Sashyakarns along with his soldiers and allies. III[7], 35. His (the King of Vallat) name is Sashidhwaj. He is intelligent, handsome, tall, brave and has a huge military. III[8], 3. King Sashidhwaj arrived at the battlefield and dispersed the powerful soldiers of Kalki. III[8], 18. ...Thus, King Sashidhwaj managed to defeat Kalki, capture him and some of his allies and went back to his palace. III[8], 18. The battle of Vallat is the most terrible battle fought by Kalki so far. In this battle, Kalki was defeated and captured in the war and taken prisoner by the King Sashidhwaj of Vallat. However, it is mentioned that the King was aware of the divine nature of Kalki and it has been said that even after capturing him, the king showed him utmost respect and entered in a peace treaty with him, offering his own daughter Roma for marriage with Kalki. Next, King Sashidhwaj recalled his sons from the battlefield and gave away his daughter Roma for marriage with Kalki in accordance with the wishes of his wife, Sushanta. All the allies of Kalki were invited to Vallat from the battlefield (for the marriage). ~ Kalki Purana, III[10], Verses 25 & 26 Thus, the wars of Kalki came to an end with a defeat and a peace treaty that ended the WW-III. III[14] describes that after the war, Kalki handed over various portions of his liberated lands to various kings who were his allies and Satya Yuga (Age of Truth) was established on the Earth. Kalki himself stayed in Shambhala with his two wives, Padma and Roma. Finaly, III[19] describes the death of Kalki and his ascension to the heaven. VIII.54 of Nostradamus also describes a marriage treaty by Chiren Selin, the equivalent of Kalki - Under the colour of the marriage treaty, a magnanimous act by the 'Chyren Selin' : St. Quintin and Arras recovered on the journey; By the Spanish a second butcher's bench is made. - VIII.54 Even though Kalki is considered as the God incarnate, his human qualities have been highlighted all through the text. He had his share of losses in battles and ups and downs, which are consistent with any war in the modern times where the warring forces are equally matched and possess weapons of mass destruction. Chyren, described by Nostradamus seems to have lost in some battles too : The great man led captive from a foreign land, chained in gold, offered to King CHYREN : He who in Ausonia, Milan, will lose the war and all his army put to fire and sword. Nostradamus, IV.34 But the fact that Kalki is a good strategist and an excellent negotiator is quite apparent from the texts as well as the fact that he has some qualities which make him the undisputed leader of the allied forces even though he is initially not even the "King" of his own country. At the most, he is a high ranking Army officer with some very exceptional qualities, whose stature only grows as events unfold, such that he is unanimously accepted as the "King of the World" and as a Messiah by all religions. In all, the Hindu text of Kalki Purana comprises of 6100 verses describing the birth, marriage, battles and the death of Kalki, who is considered the last Avtar or incarnation of Vishnu or the Supreme Being, who will establish the Age of Truth or Age of Purity on Earth. The text is essentially a spiritual text, although the verses described here are primarily concerned with the wars and various events in the life of Kalki. As agreed by all the religious prophecies, the Awaited One will not be a man of peace like Jesus Christ or Buddha, but a man of war who will destroy evil and establish righteousness on the earth. Another little known Hindu book named Divya Maha Kala Jnana, literally meaning "Divine Knowledge of the Time" written by Shree Veera Brahmendra Maha Swami, who lived in the modern Andhra Pradesh state of India, about 1000 years ago, had elaborated on the events preceding the appearance of Kalki or "Sree Veera Bhoga Vasantharaya" as he termed him. Some of the descriptions of the events are amazingly similar to those described in the western religious texts or by prophets like Nostradamus and others. The Hindu Lunar Years are counted and named on the basis of 60 year cycles. If we assume that the events will take place in the current 60 year cycle (without any particular reason for that assumption, of course - see Note below), the corresponding years have been mentioned alongside in brackets. The current cycle began on 30th March, 1987 and will end on April, 2047. The year-wise chart of Hindu years of the current cycle vis-à-vis the general calendar that we use are given as a note after the prophecies. - At the time of His (Sree Veera or Kalki's) arrival, Krita Yuga Dharma (religion of the age of peace) will have been established with the Moon, Sun, Venus and Jupiter having entered the same sign. This is not a very rare combination though. This will next occur around 22nd May 2012, when Moon, Sun, Venus and Jupiter will be in Taurus. Their positional details as seen from Shree Veera Brahmendra Maha Swami's native state of Andhra Pradesh, India, are as follows : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Only thing Hindus need to know is that Kalki can came at anytime. ONLY thing stated in Bhavagad Gita was, He WILL come when adharma is at its peak and people do not know the difference between truth and false. Current age is sufficient enough. Furthermore, if you want to believe in prophecy, then I can play both Taoism AND Mayan Calendar, stating that the world will come to an end (as we know it) in 2012 (that's less than 6 years from now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krishnadasa Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 /images/graemlins/smirk.gifONLY thing stated in Bhavagad Gita was, He WILL come when adharma is at its peak and people do not know the difference between truth and false. Current age is sufficient enough. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Ya thats right, and he will surely come whenver there is a decline in the religion, but he will come as Kalki in the time as its written in the scriptures, suchnas Bhagavatha nd many more. He willl/can ofcourse take as many incarnations as he likes to deliver the pious and the devotees before that time. hari hari bol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 where this purana comes from. is this real? i never heard of kalki purana. i find it bring much scepticism. like krishna dasa said, he is only said to come when adharma is at its peak and religion and righetouess is unknown and unwanted. Although there will be many that say this age could be it, i disagree. although we are headed down the path towards adharma, i dont believe we are there yet. i dont beileve we will be there for many generations to come. until then, i do believe the world will slowly continue to get more and more adharmic despite the attempts of a few dharmic people. However this doesnt mean we should stop. One should never stop fighting adharma, even if it seems a losing battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Ya thats right, and he will surely come whenver there is a decline in the religion, but he will come as Kalki in the time as its written in the scriptures, suchnas Bhagavatha nd many more. He willl/can ofcourse take as many incarnations as he likes to deliver the pious and the devotees before that time. Not decline in religion, but decline in Dharma and Satyam. Both are different. Remember, Hindusm as it is today only appeared less than 1,000 years ago. God NEVER made promise to safeguard Religion, only Satyam and Dharma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krishnadasa Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 <<Not decline in religion, but decline in Dharma and Satyam. Both are different.>> Guess its something to do with the meaning. There are so many meanings for this word. infact sanskrith is such a beutiful langauge one can derive sevaral meanings for the same word. Here Religion means something in line with the opposite word Adharma (similar to Yada yadahi Adharmasya glanirbhavathi bahratha)- meaning here adharma or non religion means anything that is against to the revealed scriptures, it has got nothin to do with Hindu or any other so called RELIGIONs. However i appreciate ur inputs cheers and Hari Hari bol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 One of the signs of Kali is people deriding God..at its peak God will even be forgotten. Today we see Hindus in India themselves deride their Gods...and they remember God only when they are in trouble or want more materials things. Very very few people really want to realize God. Probably less tha 0.000001% of total population. Religion word has come in last 2500-2000 years..beforem it was Sanatan Dharma only during the time of Mahabharat and when Bhagawat Gita was written. Hence we can say that there is decline of Dharm as well as religion of Sanatan Dharma. All we see false religions and saints abound. Most of the Brahmins have left their original professions and Kshatriyas engage like Shudras, Baniyas join armies and change their professiona. Eevery body become same...there is no difference ...all shudras are politicians making money and exploiting others particulaly Brahmins...who are mirating enmasse to US and other countries to escape prosecution....in Kashmir pundits were banished and they live live beggars on streetes of India......right time and WE WILL SEE CORRECTIONS COMING MAY NOT BE HIM DIRECTLY COMING BUT COULD BE INDIRECT INTERVENTION ...A SAINT..OR ENLIGHTENED SOUL A LA SWAMI VIVEKANANDA...SHANKARA ACHARYA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 WE WILL SEE CORRECTIONS COMING MAY NOT BE HIM DIRECTLY COMING BUT COULD BE INDIRECT INTERVENTION ...A SAINT..OR ENLIGHTENED SOUL A LA SWAMI VIVEKANANDA...SHANKARA ACHARYA. One person, even if he comes by authorization from God won't be able to change anything. Muslims and Christians will call him "evil" - Anti-Christ or Dajjal and such. Hindus will be too divided to care and the minute he supports Lord Vishnu, he will be called Anti-Shiva and the minute he support Lord Shiva, he will be called Anti-Vishnu. If he supports both, he will be called a Fake who trying to grab attention and if he bring his own defination, he will be called as a leader of a Cult. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif ONLY way out I see is mass destruction - destroy ALL others and leave the 0.000001% which you spoke off to start a new Era. Then he can come and guide them in a proper path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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