Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 I have some metaphors and would like your views on their meanings, thank you The world is real The world is a prison The world is a puppet show The world is an illusion The world is a school to gain knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 The world is real --it is real because it is eternal and part of the absolute world... the only thing is that is periodically destroyed and recreated The world is a prison --yes, we are rebellious to the authority of god, we are thrown out from vaikunta and we come in this prison suffering, taking borth, and dieing The world is a puppet show ---because we have very little freedom, we are forced in our actions by ur past karma The world is an illusion ---no... world is real and part of the absolute... we have an illusory view because we are illuded an blinded by god's energy maya The world is a school to gain knowledge ---not exactly.... when we reflect, when we ask ourselves "why all this suffering if i am constantly searching SAT(eternity), CIT(consciousness), ANANDA(bliss)?", when we express the desire to know the reason, god sends to us the spiritual master. So world is, for someone, the stimulus, the pretext to search for learning about our true sat, cit, ananda nature. But the school is not the world, the school belongs to the absolute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 << The world is real --it is real because it is eternal and part of the absolute world... the only thing is that is periodically destroyed and recreated >> yes, but is temporary. between real (reality and truth) and a jiva is a cloud of ignorance or maya. reality or truth is silent. one who realizes the truth at a level may or may not share it with othres depending upon his/her desires, greed etc. truth or reality is perceived at different levels by different people depending upon their advancement towards god or the truth. << The world is a prison --yes, we are rebellious to the authority of god, we are thrown out from vaikunta and we come in this prison suffering, taking borth, and dieing >> rather than saying it is a prison, it would be better to say it is a play ground where krishna allows jivas to forget Him who try to control the material world to enjoy with sences independent of krishna. becaue krishna loves all jivas/souls, and he gives each full freedom, he does not hate any one. so he sends some to the play ground where His maya helps one to forget krishna. the choice to come here was ours, not krishna's. He just freely allowed it. if he had to punish a soul, he might as well force him to stay in vaikuntha. the point to remember is that in vaikuntha no one can cause problems to any one, becaue all residents are very perfect/smart. you cannot cheat any one, cannot seduce any one, cannot robe any one, etc.. there are no commercials. some dont like it, and so they come here, and krishna being kind allows it. << The world is a puppet show ---because we have very little freedom, we are forced in our actions by ur past karma >> there is no full freedom, but there is some. the most valuable freedom is to realize that we made a wrong choice to come here, know krishna, and go back to Him. however, to totally not care for the residents here (not make them KC) is very greedy attitude and a vaishnava should not be so greedy. << The world is an illusion ---no... world is real and part of the absolute... we have an illusory view because we are illuded an blinded by god's energy maya >> the world just IS (and is constantly changing). it all depends upon us as to what we perceive. but the reality/truth is one. it does not depend upon what we perceive. << The world is a school to gain knowledge >> knowledge can be gained any time/any place. there are so many branches of knowledge. krishna says that the knowledge of aatma and paramatma, is knowledge, most valuable. the rest is not. in the world, so many forces are acting on you simultaneously. for any action you make there is a reaction that can come sooner or later. to figure what is best to do is a puzzle for most. so, some learn by their own experience because they do not trust any one. others learn from those who have known it (more or less) and are not enemies. thus guru, sadhus, and shastras are the guides telling what to do and not to do. this material world will alwasy have schools, for some basic education (even up to ph d level). and one always learns more or less all the life. the question is what did he/she learn? one can spend a million lives learning thinsgs that really may not have any real value for param gati. vaikunthas do not have schools. all there are well advanced. there is just lila. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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