harerama Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva? I heard Jesus did, Guru Nanak did. But from what I understand, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva are only aspects of ONE god, that one god that Jesus and Guru Nanak emphasise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 so then there was no need to start a different religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganeshprasad Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Jai Ganesh Re (how do you "reject" the Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva?) why would anyone want to reject either of them? life has no meaning without them. Atri muni worshiped the supream lord not knowing who that was, all three apeared and declared their oneness. Jai Shree Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 brahma, vishnu, siva are the deities who administrate, under krsna/mahavishnu's direction, the gunas in the material world jesus simply does not give details on this fact .. where's the difficulty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Prabhu, must be a reason behind it. Just as Lord Buddha rejected Vedas priniciple of sacrifice. To propagate ahimsa {compassion for all like forms} Seems to have forgotten the meaning for ahimda-P So all Avatara/Incarnations have this. Hare Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Hindu Shiva = Catholic Holy Trinity Form of Shiva= Holy Spirit Shiva the Creator= The Father Shiva the Destroyer= The Son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 please explain better, i am curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 father = god son = soul(s) holy ghost = pramriti (nature) however to do 1 to 1 comparison between two religions maynot be possible sometimes. any answer you give, it will not be perfect answer for some. in xianity there is no soul in non human beings. besides "holy ghost" is an oximoron in vedic view. a holy soul/jiva never becomes a ghost. BTW, when was xians's holy ghost born? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Sorry guys I really don't know a whole lot about the way Hindus worship. I'm a Hare Krishna so I accept Krishna(Visnu) as the one true God, not as in a trinity with Brahma and Siva. I understand how the trinity works, create-protect-destroy. But what I don't understand is if you consider all three demigods what do you call the one God? and are there Hindus who consider Visnu to be that one God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 simply trimurti is not the ultimate reality.. there's some job to do in the material universe (administration of the gunas), and god chooses to do it together with two other personalities who are not the supreme lord who wants to see it as the higher position of god in vedic science is influenced by christianism there's the number three in trimurti and trinity, but the concepts are hugely different the father is the supreme, vishnu, krsna the son is the representative, guru, avatara that for christians is only jesus the holy spirit is in some descriptions like paramatma, in some others like brahman so there's some common concepts, but not between the two "trinities" who explain very different concepts in our philosophy the highest "trinity" is bhagavan/paramatma/brahman who shows the three aspects of the supreme.. not trimurti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harerama Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 "Sorry guys I really don't know a whole lot about the way Hindus worship. I'm a Hare Krishna so I accept Krishna(Visnu) as the one true God, not as in a trinity with Brahma and Siva. I understand how the trinity works, create-protect-destroy. But what I don't understand is if you consider all three demigods what do you call the one God? and are there Hindus who consider Visnu to be that one God? " Well Hindus worship different gods. Some worship Shakti, Shiva, Vishnu, Ganesha, etc. There are a lot of sects in Hinduism that seek to define their God as the Supreme God and all other gods as expansions of that One God. Hindus believe in Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva. Some believe they're equally powerful, I guess. While others believe Vishnu is Supreme or Shiva is Supreme and the other demigods are really expansions of that god. Hindus generally do believe in one Supreme God or Reality, which they call Brahman. However, they are not in agreement WHICH God is Supreme, and thus they have a ton of sects emphasising one god or another as the Supreme and other gods as expansions of that God. For example, Vaishnavas believe Krishna or Vishnu is the Supreme. Shaivites believe Shiva is the supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Ok in the beginning there was only the Holy Spirit. Then this divided into two- The Father and the Son both of which contained the Holy Spirit. The Father represents God (or what most Christians think of as God) and the Son represents the individual. The Son is a part of God, his son, yet also seperate from him, human. So Shiva also represents two things. The Creator and the Destroyer. The Creator represents the Greatest existance/God from which the destroyer/individual stems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Ok in the beginning there was only the Holy Spirit. Then this divided into two- The Father and the Son both of which contained the Holy Spirit ••every life is eternal and all manifestations of god are eternal So Shiva also represents two things. ••shiva is real..not a representation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 if holy spirit was in the beginning, then there was God???? How can God ever come into being... I agree with previous post with a slight adjustment: Father = Bhagwan Son = Soul/Atman Holy Spirit = Brahman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 correction: Father = Parabrahman (God) Son = Paramatman/Supersoul (can also be called Guru - since guru is the physical representation of the disciple's supersoul) Holy Spirit = Brahman (all-pervading impersonal energy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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