I've converted to Islam!

[Guest guest]

Of the three great cultures, namely hindu, western and Islamic, I've chosen Islam because:

 

1) It is based on compassion, unlike Hindu/western which centers on exploitation

 

2) There is no class (western) or caste (Hindu)

 

3) There is no capitalism (western) or its offshoots such as socialism (which hindus follow rigorously), systems which consider man as just another commodity. Islamic (economic) principles are based on ethics such as no interest rate and things like that.

 

4) Islam says, "Live and let live." Western/hindu way of thought infringes on other cultures through war, terror, imperialism, crusades, migration etc.

 

5) Islam believes in limited consumption and to use the rest of one's wealth for social service, unlike hindu/western values that believe in unlimited consumption

 

I can go on and on, but i hope you can all understand why ISlam towers above other civilizations, especially hindus and western for they happen to be the most dominant at the moment. That is why I choose Islam-it is based on ethical values. Go to any Islamic country and even strangers give you accommodation at cheaper rates, whether you are hindu or western or buddhist or whatever. There is no discrimination. You cant say the same thing about other nations.

[maadhav]

<< Islam says, "Live and let live." >>

 

if so, why mohammed had his army?

 

why muslims invaded over and over in india for 1000 years and caused hindu genocide?

 

Below article says what islam is.

 

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Sun Jun 8, 2003 11:28 am

Islam: the Arab national movement

 

Anwar Shaikh of Great Britain

 

Interviewed By: Dr. Ranjit Kanwar

(First published in the Chandigarh

Times, India)

 

R. Kanwar: We have heard your name in India, yet we do not know much about you. Will you tell me something about yourself?

 

A. Shaikh: I was born in 1928 in a village near the city of Gujrat (Pakistan). Religion has been part of my family tradition. Naturally, I was brought up to be a scholar of Islam. To the best of my knowledge, it was my great grand father, who had embraced Islam. He was a Kashmiri Pandit. After conversion, he became an Imam-i-Masjid, a fervent preacher of Islam. My

grandfather was conscious of his Brahmin ancestry, and resented if any one spoke ill of the Vedas yet he could not return to his roots owing to the psychological grounding he had received over the years.

 

In Pakistan, I was a teacher and then became headmaster of a high school. Though economically life was bearable, socially it was not. I emigrated to Great Britain in 1956. After initial hardships, I struck lucky. At the height of business success, I suddenly realized that I

wanted to do some reformative work instead of indulging in money-making. It was in 1978 that I started winding up my commercial activities and am glad that I did so because it gave me a chance to re-educate myself, especially in philosophy and religion.

 

Kanwar: I have read your book, "Islam - The Arab National Movement" which is becoming world famous rapidly. Did you write it to oppose Islam?

 

Shaikh: Its purpose is not to oppose but to expose Islam: it is a serious work based on long research and personal experience. There is not one word of lie, insolence or intentional misrepresentation in this book. Since it is based on truth and nothing but the truth, it is an open challenge to those who use Islam as the tool for personal gain, politically and religiously.

 

So great is the force and authenticity of this book that no Muslim scholar has come forward so far to refute its contents.

 

Kanwar: Are you another Rushdie?

 

Shaikh: I am being labelled as such. For example, the Urdu Daily Pakistan and Weekly Maharat of Lahore, have called me "a satan of much greater stature than Rushdie and Taslima," and the Daily Jang of London has described me, "a Rushdie whose writings are infinitely more dangerous to Islam than Rushdie and Taslima put together." The Muslim readers of the Jang have written to that newspaper repeatedly begging the mullahs and other scholars of Islam to answer my questions to "save" Islam but they have deliberately kept quiet to the utter annoyance of the believers, who are really worried by the contents of "Islam - The Arab National Movement." They had demonstrated against Rushdie in every country through public meetings, processions, slogans and murders, but about my book they have willfully observed a conspiracy of silence because they do not want the world to know the truth about Islam. This clearly shows that I am the exact opposite of Rushdie. His work is fiction based

on insult to the Prophet Muhammad and his family, whereas my book is a serious work founded on scholarship, reason and research. At the most, Rushdie is an artistic protestor whereas I am a challenger to the very concept of Islam.

 

Kanwar: I see. But has your book any relevance to India?

 

Shaikh: My book has relevance to the entire mankind but it has especial relevance to India because before the coming of Islam, India was a prosperous, peaceful and proud country, which has not only been reduced to extreme poverty and ignorance by the Muslim predators and the Islamic rule, but has also been fragmented into geographical and political units.

 

The book clearly demonstrates that, as Islam seeks to impose Arab cultural imperialism on other nations through a doctrine of divide and murder, India and Islam cannot live together. This book is a must for India.

 

Kanwar: Do you realize that this book exposes you to serious danger? Aren't you afraid?

 

Shaikh: Truth has its price, which I am prepared to pay. I have not resorted to swearing or falsification simply to uphold the dignity of truth. Fear is a part of human nature and it will be wrong of me to deny it. However, I must add that by making me a martyr, they will sound the death-knell of Islam.

 

Kanwar: It is a revolutionary book with profound consequences. What prompted you to write it?

 

Shaikh: This is an excellent question and proves your competence as a journalist. Having lived in the West for such a long time, one day it crossed my mind why the white people love their countries but the Muslims of India hate their Motherland. There is no exaggeration in it because they think of Bharat not as their Motherland but Darul Harb i.e. the battlefield, where people murder, plunder and deceive out of hatred and greed. Having given this point further thought I soon realized that Islam was based on the doctrine of hating and murdering non-Muslims and reducing them to the status of political slaves. It is totally false to say that Islam is the ambassador of international brotherhood. Again, it is completely untrue that the

Muslims of all countries are one nation. It is the law of nature that nationality is constituted by blood ties and geographical boundaries, that is, the homeland. A nation being an expanded form of family, is subject to the familial rules of identity. Of course, a person can adopt another nationality quite legitimately but it is an exception and therefore cannot change the basic rule. Calling Muslims of all countries as one nation is wrong because all these nations have their separate homelands with their independent interests and different policies. Pakistan was soon split into two halves, i.e. Pakistan and Bangladesh. The government of Pakistan in

1951 stopped entry of all Indian Muslims into Pakistan despite the fact that they were the people who had made most sacrifices for the creation of Pakistan; even more shameful is the treatment of Pakistanis from Bihar, who stood by Pakistan against the Bangladeshis.

 

Muslim nationality is a myth which is extremely injurious to the non-Arab Muslims but highly beneficial to the Arabs. And this is what leads to the inevitable conclusion that Islam is not a religion but the Arab National Movement.

 

Kanwar: Good Lord! Is it what Islam is? Do you mind explaining this point a bit further?

 

Shaikh: The philosophy that lies behind Islam is stunning and proves the consummate political skill of the Prophet Muhammad: by declaring all Muslims as one nation and the non-Muslims as another, he created the Two Nation Theory perpetually setting Muslims against non-

Muslims. Again, he stressed that in this struggle the Muslims would be victorious. This is exactly the theory Karl Marx had adopted after many centuries. Presenting his dialectical view of history he emphasized that all material progress owed itself to eternal social strife between the capitalists and the proletariats, in which the latter would win the struggle.

 

However, Karl Marx did not show the mastery that the Prophet Muhammad did: by creating the Two Nation Theory, he subjected all non-Arab Muslims to the cultural imperialism of Arabia. He achieved this purpose with a mind boggling subtlety: he made Arab-worship the

cornerstone of Islam. Thus, those who embrace Islam naturally feel inferior to Arabia as a devotee believes in relation to his Goddess.

 

Kanwar: This is an unusual explanation of Islam. Can you tell me how the Prophet Muhammad raised the reverence of Arabia sky-high and made it an article of faith for his non-Arab followers?

 

Shaikh: Here is a small summary of steps the Prophet took to realize his dream:

 

1. He declared that when Adam was evicted from paradise, he came to Mecca where he built the first House of God. Thus he identified Godliness with Kaaba, a Sanctuary of Mecca where God lives! Not only that, Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, also came to Mecca to rebuild the House of God!

 

2. For the purpose of imposing Arab psychological superiority on non-Arab Muslims, he decreed that they must prostrate five times a day facing Mecca. This is not only an act of submission to Mecca, the capital city of Arabia, but also proves beyond a shadow of doubt that

God lives in Mecca; otherwise why should people prostrate in that direction?

 

3. A Muslim must not defecate himself or answer the call of nature facing Mecca. It is a blasphemous act in view of the sanctity of Mecca.

 

4. When Muslims die, they must be buried facing Mecca, which is the guarantee of their salvation.

 

5. To make sure that the Arabs enjoy economic opulence, the Prophet made Hajj an obligatory ritual for his followers. It is a pilgrimage to Mecca. There are countless Indian Muslims who sell their homes and personal belongings to undertake this journey. I can give many examples to this effect but it is enough to explain the real purpose of Islam.

 

Kanwar: It does show the Arab national tendency of Islam; but the non-Arab followers of Islam do not have to adopt a slavish attitude to the Arab national Institutions to prove their Islamic faith. Do they?

 

Shaikh: I regret to say, Sir, like countless non-Muslims, you do not know the master stroke of the Prophet.

 

Kanwar: I have never heard of this master stroke before. Can you enlighten me in the interest of humanity?

 

Shaikh: I am referring to the Prophet's declaration that Allah has made him the Model of Practice for his followers. It has come to mean that the Muslims must copy him in everything; they must eat, drink, walk and talk like him, even must look like him, that is, they grow

beard like his, have a similar hair-cut and dress like him.

 

This is what is called following the Sunnah, i.e. the Prophetic Model which is the guarantee of salvation. One can easily say that Islam has been designed to induce love and respect for Arabia. There are express commands of the Prophet, which state that a person is not a

Muslim until he loves him more than his own father and mother. The idea is that people must be weaned away from their own nationalities and motherlands and attached firmly to Mecca. This is the reason that the Muslims of India call their own homeland as the battlefield

and Arabia the fountain of peace and celestial glory.

 

Now, it is perhaps, easy for you to understand why the Muslims of India partitioned their own Motherland for practicing the Arab cultural values in Pakistan (and Bangladesh).

 

Kanwar: What is likely to happen if the non-Arab Muslims do not follow the Prophet in loving Arabia even if it involves unpatriotic practices against their own homelands?

 

Shaikh: The Muslims must love Arabia because the Prophet did so. They must follow him as the Divine Model of Practice. This is what Islam expects; if they don't, they are sure to enter hell because the Prophet will not intercede on their behalf.

 

Kanwar: What is intercession?

 

Shaikh: This is the special power of the Prophet Muhammad. He will recommend paradise for his followers on the Day of Judgement. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are followers of the Prophet.

 

On the contrary, all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Christians will be cast into a flaming hell, no matter, how pious and God-fearing they may have been; piety has no meaning and value without believing Muhammad and the greatness of his homeland.

 

Intercession is the climax of the Prophet's national wisdom. It is this Muslim belief which gives them the hope of free sex and economic abundance, and they feel obliged to kill in the name of Islam. This is why they are ever ready to stab their motherland. After all, caring about one's country entails sacrifices whereas the comforts of paradise are sweet and splendid. And it is specially so when they involve no moral responsibility.

 

Kanwar: Poor India! "Islam - The Arab National Movement" seems to be the book, not only for every Indian, irrespective of religion, but also for every Pakistani and Bangladeshi as well. After all, they all belong to the Indian subcontinent. What have you done to propagate

its contents?

 

Shaikh: By writing this book, I have discharged my duty. Its propagation, I believe, is a duty of everyone.

 

Kanwar: Will you be prepared to allow translations of this book into various languages without expecting any financial reward?

 

Shaikh: I shall be delighted to do so provided such task is undertaken for public good and not as a trade.

 

Kanwar: What is the price of the book and can people get in touch with you?

 

Shaikh: The book costs 5 only and the address is:

 

Anwar Shaikh,

P.O. Box 918,

Cardiff CF2 4YP (UK)

 

 

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[Guest guest]

so why is there no single giant islamic state though you all speak arabic? so where is your unity? why are all your nations backwards in science and technology. if you had no oil you would be nothing...

[Guest guest]

oil is not the issue. Science and tech. is not the issue. the only issue is spirituality, right? So instead of being materialistic, try to focus on Allah. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Anyone can write defamatory articles about other religions, big deal. Suppose this guy Sheikh had written the same thing about hinduism, would ytou accept it? I can show plenty of articles where writers have targeted hinduism. Does it make it all true?

 

Regarding so-called invasions, in those times, all nations were at war and invading. European nations were invading one another, the same is true of all continents. War was the only reality. So it is no surprise that people invaded india as well. Don't cling to the past.

[Guest guest]

Enjoy your life of submission

[Guest guest]

I've chosen Islam because:1) It is based on compassion, unlike Hindu/western which centers on exploitation

 

claim without substantiation.

 

2) There is no class (western) or caste (Hindu)

What is the hierarchial status of dhimmies and kafirs?

 

3)There is no capitalism (western) or its offshoots such as socialism (which hindus follow rigorously), systems which consider man as just another commodity. Islamic (economic) principles are based on ethics such as no interest rate and things like that.

 

Hindus dont follow godless communism.If capitalism is bad, what is followed by arab nations?Try running a bank without interest rates.

 

4) Islam says, "Live and let live." Western/hindu way of thought infringes on other cultures through war, terror, imperialism, crusades, migration etc.

statement without a shred of logical construct.

 

5)I can go on and on, but i hope you can all understand why ISlam towers above other civilizations, especially hindus and western for they happen to be the most dominant at the moment.

 

If we understand islam towers above all religions we would have become muslims.And its news to me that islam now dominates the world.I thought that america now dominates saudi arabia,iraq,pakistan and afghanisthan,kuwait.I thought israel dominates plaestine.Maybe I am wrong.

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna,

 

 

Of the three great cultures, namely hindu, western and Islamic, I've chosen Islam because:

 

1) It is based on compassion, unlike Hindu/western which centers on exploitation

 

 

Is that why quran allows muslims to own female slaves and sexually exploit them ? or is this why Mohammad encouraged his followers to capture women in war and rape them. Do you call this compassion. or is it pure hatred and lust. Please question your foolishness.

 

Quran

 

33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;

 

Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 62:

 

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 137:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

 

We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection."

 

 

2) There is no class (western) or caste (Hindu)

 

 

But hating Kafirs in Islam is alright. Killing kafirs is alright. Taking Kafir women as booty in war and to rape them alright in Islam. Why don't you read the above verses one from quran and another from Sunnah.

 

 

3) There is no capitalism (western) or its offshoots such as socialism (which hindus follow rigorously), systems which consider man as just another commodity. Islamic (economic) principles are based on ethics such as no interest rate and things like that.

 

 

Capitaism or socialism does not belong to any religion. In every religion man is considered not as a property. So this is not special to islam.

 

 

4) Islam says, "Live and let live." Western/hindu way of thought infringes on other cultures through war, terror, imperialism, crusades, migration etc.

 

 

1- Dhimmis are excluded from top government positions except in rare cases where some one may get appointed as a cabinet mister but never head of state. This is based on Quranic injuction that non Muslims should not rule over Muslims.

2- Dhimmis are bypassed for promotion in favor of less qualified Muslims.

3- Dhimmis in government jobs are expected to be more productive and they are.

4- High positions in the military are not available. For example in Egypt Islamists are demanding that Christians not be allowed in the military service.

5- Usually in the private business sector, a Dhimmi needs to bring in a Muslim partner.

6- Dhimmis are not normally appointed judges. Quran prohibits Muslims from having non Muslim rulers and judges.

7- Various forms of pervasive discrimination in both public and private sectors.

8 - Islamic countries do not allow Dhimmies to build their own temples or whatever.

 

Contrast this with Hindu society, where everybody is allowed to build their places of worship, proselytize and worship from last 5000 years. Contrast this with dhimmies in Islamic nations where a non-muslim is threatened with death sentence if he tries to convert a muslim.

 

 

5) Islam believes in limited consumption and to use the rest of one's wealth for social service, unlike hindu/western values that believe in unlimited consumption

 

 

 

This is nonsense and stupidity. It is not true that Hindus believe in unlimited consumption. Where did u get this from. There is restriction and strict ascetic rules for Hindus. They are not supposed to lust after women, eat and accept wealth alloted to him by Lord.

 

In Islam muslims are openly advised to loot and carry non-believer's wives aas booty. Shame on you muslims.

 

 

I can go on and on, but i hope you can all understand why ISlam towers above other civilizations, especially hindus and western for they happen to be the most dominant at the moment. That is why I choose Islam-it is based on ethical values. Go to any Islamic country and even strangers give you accommodation at cheaper rates, whether you are hindu or western or buddhist or whatever. There is no discrimination. You cant say the same thing about other nations.

 

 

You must be living in some LALA land.

[Guest guest]

HAre Krishna,

 

Note : ADMINS please do not delete my post above.

[barney]

Becoming a Muslim is your right but to condemn others belief is not. Here you have shown how ignorant you are by not only becoming a Muslim but aslo becoming an uncivilized barbarian. Decapitating your fellow human is barbaric and so your religion is a barbaric religion. Islam is for the illetrate as can be seen by their uncivilized behaviour. Hinduism thought the world to be civilize and the world histroy would tell you where civilization began. I do not know of your origin of birth but I'm sure you would beling to a particuar relgion at birth but since you did not understand your religion of birth how could you understand a religion you just adopted?

 

As far as I know Muslims who undersatand and respect other relgions are Muslims by accident. Such as their forefathers were forced to become Muslims for fear of being beheaded by the invading Muslim barbarians who had also raped young Hindu maidens who had bore the shame and their childen who were bastards. So now you know some history of how the Muslims in India came to be. Now for more interesting part is that Arabs by nature were bastards as most of their ancestors were raped by Mohammed's soldiers before conversion while the male folks were murdered. So on the whole today's off springs are from the line of the bastards and so carry the gene of the murders and that is why the can go on a killing sphere.

 

Ask any historian and they would tell you what I have said. The original arabs were a vedic race but after Mohammed they were all killed in war and their women folks were raped by Mohammed's soldiers and these soldiers fathered the children who became bastards in Arab skin. So there is nothing great about Islam as it belong to a tribe that came to power through invation and spoils of war. It was the western world that thought them the value of oil otherwise they would all die fo starvation as they cannot drink the black slughish substanse which after refining brings wealth to these barbarians.

 

As far as I know there is nothing original in Islam as 99% of the contents in Quran were assimilated from the Jewish faith[OT]. The hadith is nothing but simply the laws invented by Mohammed such as what a Muslim should do or don't and if a Muslim does not follow what Mohammed did during his life timw would be condemn to hell. Are such laws by God? Surely not. I wonder if Muslims these days are following exactly what Mohammed did after passing motion? If not thatn they have been condemn to hell even if they pray five times a day. Because if a Muslim who fails to folow Mohammed is not a true Muslim an I suggest you stock up small stones soon before going to toilet.

 

You better check your facts before you come into this forum otherwise you will only get a load of stones for your personal use.

[Guest guest]

Jai Radhe !

Your post is appreciative. Thanks.

Article has been sent by Maadhav jee also enhances knowledge.

 

[Guest guest]

To : Without Subject,

 

You wrote. . . . .

Enjoy your life of submission

 

The life of the Body is a dream, hallucination but the

Life of the Soul is reality. So enjoy with truth and

Infinite Cosmic Energy.

 

[sumeet]

1) If you have converted to islam then why you need to come here and tell us ? What do we have to do with that ?

 

2) And how can we sure that you have converted to islam and are just not kidding to grab attention ?

 

3) And you will not get any converts here. So better try your luck somewhere else.

 

 

 

[krishnadasa]

hare krsna,

 

Krishna says in one of our scriptures, that even if one comes in contact with the person who has eaten from what one gest milk from (holy cow), one should dip in Ganges 100 times to purify oneslef.

 

So better dont touch this website again! (better dont make all of us to find ganges for dipping )Be happy with ur religion. we have no desire to discuss ur religion nor do we have any desire to prove our religion to be superior.

 

And to be honest ; u r lying, No hindu can convert oneslef on these puny reasons u have quoted Ha ha.

 

Chant lord's names and be happy.

 

Better find some islamic websites

 

Ok!

 

Hari bol

 

viks

[Guest guest]

i dnt understand wot had possessed you to convert 2 such an unfair and degrading religion....hopefullt this will make you and other hindus who are thinking to convert THINK about wot ur about to do...

 

All abrahamic religions are possessed with one thing...they want to own the world...they all preach that their religion is the best pathway to God in heaven who will give you all you want. you can join him and have as much pleasure as you please....have as many wives to exploit at your wish.....hav a big mansion to fit these wives in. look at how materialistic these religions are. this is all they can offer materials. since they have no high philosophy or science like that of Hinduism.

only if you surrender to christ of become a muslim can you endulge in sense gratification otherwise you are damned for eternity to hell. ETERNITY do you realise how long that is? just by forgetting to pray one time in your life u will be forsaken to hell. how skewed is this risk reward ratio? how is this even fair? for one mistake ...ur damed for ETERNITY? wot about the ppl who dont follow the religion...what happens the billions of other "non-believers"????

 

it is religions such as christianity and islam that create wars in the name of religion, and cause unnessesary mass murder of innocent people. HItler carried out a holocaust against the million of jews for no apparent reason...in the same way islam is claiming that everyone else who doesnt beleive in them will all go to hell and will burn for eternity.

 

this religion which u have joined is the mother of terroism....it was born with the religion!! islam teaches that it is ok to kill other ppl...hence da mad suicide bombings and 9/11 attack...allah will reward you for it. yeh wotever!! it is cos of this that we can declare that ALL TERRORIST ARE MUSLIMS AND ALL MUSLIMS THERFORE ARE TERRORISTS!! hav you ever heard of a hindu terrorist? NO!! but there is a long list of WANTED muslim terrorits.

 

now you tell me which is better allah who preaches to kill thousands of others especially to massacre the billions of hindus or hitler who killed the one million jews?

 

n cum to think that u have embraced this twisted and sickening religion...makes me sick !!!

[maadhav]

<< Regarding so-called invasions, in those times, all nations were at war and invading. >>

 

indians did not invade any country.

hindus did not go out to convert.

why tehmuslim invaders converted some hindus by force?

 

<< European nations were invading one another, the same is true of all continents. >>

 

no. not india.

 

<< War was the only reality. >>

 

not for india.

 

<< So it is no surprise that people invaded india as well. >>

 

is it a rational justifiction?

 

<< Don't cling to the past. >>

 

why not?

islam has to get out of india.

invaded ideology has no right to be there on the vedic land.

 

[Guest guest]

God must love you since he directed you to the right religion!

but for you who talk about islamic countries being backward, you MUST read about the history more. Islamic civilization was the craddle of civilizations!

once again, CONGRATULATIONS for converting to ISLAM. You will be suprised with the change Islam will bring to your life!

 

[Guest guest]

To give you guys a hint to search more about! Islam entered India by trade and Hindus were amazed by the religion's principles. Islam never invaded India! BRITAIN did invade India though!

 

[Guest guest]

12.108 "Say: "This is my Way: I do invite unto Allah,- with certain knowledge, - I and whoever follows me. Glory to Allah, and never will I join gods with Allah!"

 

16.125 "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knows best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance."

these are only two verses of the other many ones that ask us to preach peacefully other non muslims and deal with everyone with tolerance!

That is a wrong stereotype about Islam ordering muslims to kill non muslims! the meaning of a verse from the Qur'an says if you kill one soul is as if you killed the entire humanity and if you save one soul is as if you saved the whole humanity! also a very helpful website for you would be www.sultan.org so if you are a tolerant Hindu go and read more about the real Islam not the distorted islam that you get from the Media!

Islam is a peaceful and true religion!

[Guest guest]

Another nonsense thread from a muslim posing as a Hindu.

So the guest above says Islam is a peaceful true religion, as if we'd believe your words over the actions of muslim suicide bombers! Islamic history is full of bloodshed, intollerance and barbarism, so please leave the propaganda at the mosque.

 

{if you kill one soul is as if you killed the entire humanity and if you save one soul is as if you saved the whole humanity}

 

You muslims stole that verse from the Jewish scriptures. That verse is at the beginning of Schildlers list.

[Guest guest]

Lot of youngsters nowadays think of terrorists as their heroes becuase of what "appears" to be an unselfish sacrifice of their own life for their fight against mighty super power.

 

But the truth is, these terrorists are great cowards, they misuse the hospitality of the countries that welcome them and kill innocent people instead of indulging in manly combat the military way.

 

Unless people understand that terrorism is not a brave or noble act, but is an act of cowardice, we'll see more people getting converted to their miguided ideologies.

 

The need of the hour is more tolerant philosophies.

 

Anbe Sivam!

[Guest guest]

I'd have been happy if your soul had sought more tolerant faiths like hinduism or Christianity, but anyway, you seem to be more attracted by the media attention that your newly chosen religion gets, but in the long term, you'll understand the consequence of your choice.

 

All the best for now!

[Guest guest]

you have to know this! Moses was sent to the jews! Jesus to Christians and Mohammed to Muslim. The three religions are from ONE GOD. Therefore, there is no reason to be surprised if you find the same verses in the three religions! They are all from ONE GOD, ALLAH.

I won't go into detail in the differences between the three religions! BUt the point here is that you are really ignorant and intolerant because you like to believe what others say about ISLAM and you refuse to go and read about the true teachings of ISLAM. Take for example India, your country, go and ask a muslim there who was Hindu before and let him tell you his story how did he become a muslim?? was he forced or was he convinced??

ONE more thing, go and read about the Muslim Scholars what they say about those Muslims extremists which we find in every religion, Hitler in Christianity is one example!

Muslims all condamn the terrorists attacks that kill innocent people. Muslims themselves are targetted in the terrorists attack.. to make it easy for you go to www.sultan.org

you better go and educate yourself more about Islam, the peaceful and true religion

wish you the best of luck if your research!

 

[Guest guest]

I know all that you say about them all being Abrahamic faiths, but the credit goes to the Jews for revelaing it way before the muslims. Islam took alot from them. The verse may also be in Islam, but there are so many intollerant verses in the koran and hadith that cannot simply be ignored. In Islam the intollerance far exceeds the 'tolerance'.

 

I don't believe in supporting propaganda sites so I won't bother with your sultan.org. I've seen many of them and they all say the same old stuff, weak propaganda for the gullible. But the Islam that is being practiced is miles away from what they talk of. The only thing they have in common is their arrogance that they are true and every other religion is false.

 

{Take for example India, your country, go and ask a muslim there who was Hindu before and let him tell you his story how did he become a muslim?? was he forced or was he convinced??}

 

The same can be said of any one who converts to any religion. A Hindu who converts to Islam out of free-will, does so because of failure of intellect. Sometimes they may have had a bad experience with some other Hindus so they want to get back at them, so they convert. Most muslims in India were forcibly converted hundreds of years ago by the mughals. Why don't you read about what your beloved Aurangzeb and Babur did to Hindus? You know there were alot of raped Hindu women whose husbands were killed and they were taken by muslim soldiers and converted. Their offsping all had to become muslim. Many muslims of today are from this background. But I would say that not all muslims are bad people, but Islam can make them into bad people.

 

{Muslims all condamn the terrorists attacks that kill innocent people.}

 

No they don't. I don't see them condemn the muhajihadeen in Kashmir who massacre Hindus just because of their religion. Is that because muslims don't consider Hindus to be innocent, but see them as Kafirs, who don't want to convert to Islam?

 

{you better go and educate yourself more about Islam, the peaceful and true religion}

 

I already know enough about Islam to say it can never be a true religion and don't want to waste my time reading the same old propaganda.

Peaceful religion...don't make me laugh!

[barney]

Please allow me to say what I feel and would answer to your ignorant questions.

 

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Of the three great cultures, namely hindu, western and Islamic, I've chosen Islam because:

 

1) It is based on compassion, unlike Hindu/western which centers on exploitation

 

2) There is no class (western) or caste (Hindu)

 

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Islam is not a great culture. What Mohammed did was just assimilated what the Jews and Christians practiced centuries before the birth of Islam. Circumcision is a traditional pratice of the Jews as well as the early Christians and Mohammed assimilated it inot his cult. Washing of ears elbow, ankle and so forth were the tradition of the Jews. There are amny such tradition of the Jews that Mohammed copied so there is nothing great about Islam when Jews had been practicing for centuries before Islam. Culture must be born with the race and that is why it is called a great culture. So you are wrong in claiming Islam as a great culture.

 

As for science and mathematics it has been proven that they were copied from the vedas and here to Islam just borrowed what others had lomng before Islam came to be.

 

As for class division it is a common knowledge that division of class was based on the proffession of what one does. Not that they are down graded but certain group of people used it to for selfish reason and has nothing to do with Hinduism.

 

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YOU SAID:

 

3) There is no capitalism (western) or its offshoots such as socialism (which hindus follow rigorously), systems which consider man as just another commodity. Islamic (economic) principles are based on ethics such as no interest rate and things like that.

 

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What no interest rate? Any form of charging extra is considered interest otherwise the bank will have to be folded up. Use your comon sence. Of course this is one why of telling the Muslims Islam does not pratice USURY but indirectly takes interst in the form of negotiated profit which in western world is called INTEREST. Intersts is what the lender gains as profit and so is the Islamic banking. Otherwise the investers would all pull out their investment if there is no profit. So, do not use other words to delude the followers.

 

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YOU SAID:

 

4) Islam says, "Live and let live." Western/hindu way of thought infringes on other cultures through war, terror, imperialism, crusades, migration etc.

 

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Is that what Islam did in Afghanistan, Persia, India and now in Sudan and Algeria? Come on don't make me laugh with your silly excuses for your conversion. Say that it is because of a beautiful Muslim girl that you need to convert otherwise you will lose her.

 

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YOU SAID:

 

5) Islam believes in limited consumption and to use the rest of one's wealth for social service, unlike hindu/western values that believe in unlimited consumption.

 

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If that is so than why are people in Islamic countries suffering in poverty? Take an example of people in Iraq, certain sects have been left to fend for themselves while the the ruling sects were enjoying the wealth of the oil before the invasion and over throw f Sadam the Butcher.

 

Where is the Islamic nation when the Kashmir part of Pakistan was hit with disaster? When Aceh was hit by Tsunami? Did the Arab Muslims share their Thrillions of oil money to these suffering nations?

 

I too can go on but it is a waste of time as you have been thought to deny everything others say.

 

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YOU SAID:

 

I can go on and on, but i hope you can all understand why ISlam towers above other civilizations, especially hindus and western for they happen to be the most dominant at the moment. That is why I choose Islam-it is based on ethical values. Go to any Islamic country and even strangers give you accommodation at cheaper rates, whether you are hindu or western or buddhist or whatever. There is no discrimination. You cant say the same thing about other nations.

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Islam does not tower in anything except TERRORISM. Ii is the only discovery of Islam and its founder Mohammed. It's nothing to boast about since it goes against the order of nature and GOD.

 

I can give you more references but am afraid it would be deleted by the moderatror as my earlier reply to you was deleted. May be he did not want to hurt your feelings. That is te quality of Hinduism.