Can anyone please read this and answer my questions

December 8, 2004

Can anyone Please read this and answer my questions :

(Amma was born the 15th of August 1954 in the beautiful village Sangham in the state of Andra Pradesh, South India.

"Remember that there are no coincidences in life - only Grace.

Without grace there is nothing.

Today you had the desire to come here

and receive the grace of Amma.

But even that desire is not yours.

That desire was put into you by Amma,

because she wanted you to receive Her grace.

Even that desire is Hers.

If you realize this,

you will realize that Her grace has been there all through your life.

We must understand that this Dharma is nothing but only Grace. Amma says: Bookish knowledge will not help in life.

You need experience, just as the grace of Amma and Bhagwan

is to be experienced but can't be understood by hearing or reading." )

I have read this in TrueAwakening.org. This is one of Kalki Bhagwan's website... Well, I don't know whether he is an avtar or not......but people tell he is an Avtaar.. After reading that, I have got few questions.......

1. If God is the one who puts desires in us...doesn't that mean he is ruling us. Isn't he the source for all of our problems.

2. If we have the gift of 'free will' to live here then what's all that.

3. Is God going to give the desire to worship him?

I know God is not like that....But, when people say he is an Avtaar and those are his teachings....then what's the meaning of that? Can we believe him?

December 9, 2004

I wouldn't read too much into this kalki avtaar guy...

but some attempt at answering your questions... although I am not an expert...

You do know that you can send them direct to the editor and you will get an expert reply. Your questions seem to be from an abrahamic background.

1. If God is the one who puts desires in us...doesn't that mean he is ruling us. Isn't he the source for all of our problems. ANS: I would say No. You make the choice. This is Karma. Desire are our own creations. But it is essentially our personal decision to indulge in the desire or not.

2. If we have the gift of 'free will' to live here then what's all that.

ANS ?? Question needs to be re-phrased.

3. Is God going to give the desire to worship him?

ANS I would say NO. Dharma or righteous living is important first. Righteous living - not harming others, controlling your desires and senses, identifying yourself as an aatma you become conscious of the link with a divine paramaatma. In Hinduism it is God Realisation that leads to bhakti(devotion).

December 9, 2004

first of all this "kalki" is a cheater... it is nice that you have philosophical interests but run away from that people

1. If God is the one who puts desires in us...doesn't that mean he is ruling us. Isn't he the source for all of our problems.

••desire is life... desire is activity. The spiritual world, vaikunta, is full of love, activity, relationships, desires... but there all is eternity, consciousness and bliss.

When we rejected god to come in this world, to be satisfacted in our will to forget transcendence, He gave us the opposite of eternity, consciousness and bliss.. he gave us death, ignorance and pain.

In this environment desires and ruling are source of disgraces... if we come back to god, even if we do it gradually, all this will turn in bliss.. we will desire god and god will desire us.. all will be transcendental love.

(i said god.... not that false kalki)

2. we have the will to choose between free exchangin of feeling and desires between us and god in the spiritual environment or the painful illusions and delusions (generated by our desires of exploitation) of the material world. So let us choose the first option

3.yes...god is greatest and we are smallest... so we cannot reach him if he does not give himself to us. Love for god is god's grace, not our real decision. But we have to be careful when some attraction arises and we have to examine very carefully when the desire to follow something is from god or from illusion.. and that kalki pseudo bhagavan is illusion

But, when people say he is an Avtaar and those are his teachings....then what's the meaning of that? Can we believe him?

•••only few and ignorant people say that he's an avatar... it is sufficient to read a little of vedic scriptures to discover that the true kalki will come 428000 years from now.

So if he's kalki... i am jesus christ or buddha

and i am not...

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