Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Gnana Yoga is knowing about the god, understanding the whole path in travel towards god. And many more yogas are there to travel towards god describing many things about God. But why ancient philosophers of Hinduism has preferred Bhakti yoga is the prior than any other Yogas like Gnana Yoga or Raja Yoga etc... Bhakti Yoga is just preaching God, without knowing much about God, and still continue to preach with only belief. But other yogas they atleast describe God and tell about the ways, difficulties and hazards that come across during travel to God. Still Philosophers of Hinduism are concentrating and preferring on Bhakti Yoga than Other Yogas. Why..? Thanks in Advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayanadasa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Actually I was told that there are basically only two yogas - Gnana Yoga and Karma Yoga. For both yoga's bhakti is necessary. So, you do Karma yoga through bhakti and gnana yoga also through Bhakti. I believe it is always necessary to go through the mill of Karma yoga before Gnana yoga. Apparently, in the recent past people have made other yoga's called Raja Yoga, etc etc etc. But as per ancient scriptures only 2 yogas are there that is Gnana Yoga and Bhakti Yoga. Jai Sriman Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayanadasa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Sorry.. last sentence I meant Gnana yoga and Karma Yoga. Jai Sriman Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 {Apparently, in the recent past people have made other yoga's called Raja Yoga} No, actually it was through Raja Yoga that the Rishis heard the Vedas - they were in deep meditation. Raja Yoga is very ancient and predates recorded history, but the term was thought up by the Sage Patanjali who codified the Yoga-sutras around 200BC. At the time of the Gita, Raja yoga did not have a name but meditation and concentration of mind and control of the senses is mentioned by Krishna in the Gita as the aim of a yogi. This is synonymous with Raja yoga. For more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja_Yoga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 because krishna says so in gita. there he talks about all teh yogas, and which is better than what. we do not question word of krishna (god). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 bhakti means love... and inside love there's also knowledge (jnana) and action (karma) if i love someone, i have also desire to know him more and more and to act in any possible way to serve him someone who preachs som concoction about god without jnana, but with some false estatic display and he says to be a bhakta, he's a cheater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranga Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Bhakthi is ego less and we surrender our micro ego to the macro consciousness the Bhagavan Vishnu. In this way,it is realistic,flawless and one can happily perform this yoga.Not that one aims at Moksha while doing Bhakthi.Bhakthi is complete in itself.A devotee accepts whatever he gets whether Moksha or Hell as Krishna Prasadam. Other yogas solely depend on the individual's capacity and his own Sadhana.But bhakthi depends on Mercy of the Lord. Only true aspiration and thirst for Vishnu is requried in Bhakthi.Nothing else. Hari Bol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayanadasa Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I did'nt know about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Self realization calls for an experience. For a self realized individual karma samnyasa is natural in any walk of life. Thus self realization can result in good actions which have least karmic reaction. But for those not self realised, there has to be a direction to them to maintain their actions as pure and minimise karmic reaction in the world. So krishna in BG asks one to surrender all actions and all results to krishna with all sincerity. This is to make sure that Arjuna, although claiming that he finds self realization very difficult, can be capable of performing good action with least karmic reaction. This is referred to as bhakti. Bhakti's traditional meaning is sharing. In BG Bhakti means completely surrendering all actions and results that cause bondage. The ignorant in the world mis-interpret Bhakti. The ignorant think Krishna is happy when they surrender all actions and results to him. This is a poor understanding of krishna. Such worship of krishna considers the lord as a demi-god to fulfill their immediate & worldy desires, as it makes no impact on their actions. Krishna is pleased/happy when actions are performed in this world without doership attachements, and thus there is no bondage to results. These are the true devotees of krishna, regardless of the name or form of the god they consider and also regardless of their status of self realization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 "Krishna is pleased/happy when actions are performed in this world without doership attachements, and thus there is no bondage to results. " krsna is supremely blissful and he's happy for everyone in every stage of realization ... but the behaviour you have said is not bhakti for krsna, it is falsely neutral.. so it is egoistic, selfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 personally, i believe that social events happen for socially enabling reasons. bhakti yoga probably took off as something that could gather a mass public more than karma, raja or gnana yoga because bhakti was easier for the common man to practice. it is easier for the working man who has little time or little knowledge about the intricacies (and there are many) of hinduism. so simple bhakti to god will be the easiest for their path. i accidently started a new thread...i meant for this post to go here thats why karma yoga was restrained to those that had the time, energy and ability to devote and gnana yoga to those that chose to understanding brahman through their mind and raja yoga to those that were taught from other yogis how to perform precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Thanks all for the inputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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