melvin Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 It was on 1808 when John Dalton proved that atoms form clusters of an element called " Compounds." A Chemical reaction, for example, bet. Iron(ferrous atom) and Oxygen form a compound known as Ferrous oxide, or RUST, which Dalton has described as an actor on stage that appears in one act, disappears, changes costumes and then shuttle back on stage to play another part. Hence, if you search through the ashes of a fire, you could never find the ac- tor within the wood, or discover the rust that manifested on the iron. Cintamani das, like other atoms say, melvin108, can be identified as actors in a chemical change, although a lone atom, Prabhupad82, can take the place of another atom say, Abhay101, in a cluster, or larger clusters divided in- to smaller ones( one disappears and two new ones taking its place) that remain the same as before, even if things have changed. Atoms such as Cintamani das or melvin108 are therefore actors/actresses who have never left the stage but continue to ap- pear in other roles with new groups or forms. By learning from John Dalton, I don`t see why an atomic particle like Cintamani das should be barred from participating in indiadivine.com`s discussion forums since the role taken by Cintamani das is based on scientific facts. Source: The Book of Knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 ATMA BOMB atom is from atomos which is Greek for indivisible but they have been able to split the indivisible atomos to make the ireversible bomb For atom to be indivisible It must be Atma-ic At Om ! ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanpeter Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 ...and where is Atma prabhu when we need her perceptive inputs? Not to mention comedic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted August 22, 2001 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 I remember Srila Prabhupad in his book, Journey To Other Planets, that " Life Comes Life " which left a question mark on me as to how it should be done. That is why man invented the electron micro- scope so that he would be able to see what`s beyond what the eyes would want to see.If you say, " You believe in God" then the skeptic in me would challenge you to show God before me, otherwise it would be a waste of time proving to me that God can be found in the Holy Scrip- tures, when what the skeptic in me wants are scientific evidences that God really does exists. Failure to do so would only make me more an unbeliever inspite of the "Blaah--blaaah--blaah." To see God, alive and animated, is to be- lieve. Therefore we need material facts to convince the skeptic in me that God is immortal. Srila Prabhupad knew of his mortality be- cause he was cloth in a material body, subject to birth, death, disease, and old age. Thus, when he died, Srila Prabhupad, as an atomic particle changed into a new- ly charged atomic-spark say, from Uranium 235 to Uranium 238 after having been split by a colliding neutrino bullet fired from the sky, of which the result released a tremendous amount of energy equal to or greater than the atomic blast witnessed by the world when the Bird from USA, the Enola Gay, dropped the nuclear bomb in Hiroshima, Nagasaki on August 6, 1945. When Srila Prabhupad took his last breath on Nov. 14, 1977, it was as if an atomic bomb was dropped from the sky that blas- ted the ISKCON headquarters located in Washington, D.C. to smittereens. Why? Because Srila Prabhupad wasn`t yet ready to die. Like a child, he wanted first to ride on the bullock-cart to tour around the different temples of the Lord located in Vrndavan, India. Srila Prabhupad was asking his disciples to let him observe Parikrama Jaya-sita (Maharaja Pariksit) together with Loka- nath Swami. But this was not meant to be because his disciples refused to grant Srila Prabhupad his LAST WISH on the re- commendation of Swamiji`s Kaviraja. At that instant, it broke Srila Prabhupad`s heart that eventually led to his death. So, O.K. even if I could no longer see His Divine Grace in the flesh.Ommmhhh.. What if I can get hold of Srila Prabhu- pad`s DNA( The Building Block of Life), I might one day deliver to you, Baby Boy Srila Prabhupad. That will be the day when all of those who are responsible for Swamiji`s early demise see the real Holy Ghost. Haribol! ------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted August 22, 2001 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 I remember Srila Prabhupad in his book, Journey To Other Planets, that " Life Comes Life " which left a question mark on me as to how it should be done. That is why man invented the electron micro- scope so that he would be able to see what`s beyond what the eyes would want to see.If you say, " You believe in God" then the skeptic in me would challenge you to show God before me, otherwise it would be a waste of time proving to me that God can be found in the Holy Scrip- tures, when what the skeptic in me wants are scientific evidences that God really does exists. Failure to do so would only make me more an unbeliever inspite of the "Blaah--blaaah--blaah." To see God, alive and animated, is to be- lieve. Therefore we need material facts to convince the skeptic in me that God is immortal. Srila Prabhupad knew of his mortality be- cause he was cloth in a material body, subject to birth, death, disease, and old age. Thus, when he died, Srila Prabhupad, as an atomic particle changed into a new- ly charged atomic-spark say, from Uranium 235 to Uranium 238 after having been split by a colliding neutrino bullet fired from the sky, of which the result released a tremendous amount of energy equal to or greater than the atomic blast witnessed by the world when the Bird from USA, the Enola Gay, dropped the nuclear bomb in Hiroshima, Nagasaki on August 6, 1945. When Srila Prabhupad took his last breath on Nov. 14, 1977, it was as if an atomic bomb was dropped from the sky that blas- ted the ISKCON headquarters located in Washington, D.C. to smittereens. Why? Because Srila Prabhupad wasn`t yet ready to die. Like a child, he wanted first to ride on the bullock-cart to tour around the different temples of the Lord located in Vrndavan, India. Srila Prabhupad was asking his disciples to let him observe Parikrama Jaya-sita (Maharaja Pariksit) together with Loka- nath Swami. But this was not meant to be because his disciples refused to grant Srila Prabhupad his LAST WISH on the re- commendation of Swamiji`s Kaviraja. At that instant, it broke Srila Prabhupad`s heart that eventually led to his death. So, O.K. even if I could no longer see His Divine Grace in the flesh.Ommmhhh.. What if I can get hold of Srila Prabhu- pad`s DNA( The Building Block of Life), I might one day deliver to you, Baby Boy Srila Prabhupad. That will be the day when all of those who are responsible for Swamiji`s early demise see the real Holy Ghost. Haribol! ------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 hey ! Melvin ! why have you posted the same message twice when once wouldn't do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanpeter Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 CLONE the guru??? Holy science, Batman! The mind BOGGLES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animesh Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 This is the first time I am seeing such kind of post from Melvin ji. Or, have you posted such things earlier under different name? You have compared posters with atoms. An atom can be in ground state or any of excited states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 some atoms are outer state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atma Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 Originally posted by amanpeter: ...and where is Atma prabhu when we need her perceptive inputs? Not to mention comedic... Busy having a life prabhu...Lots of decisions to make lately. Been thinking for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animesh Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Been thinking for a while Does it mean that it is rare for you to think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted August 23, 2001 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 O.K. Guys, I`ll tell you a secret. I was having this simulated tests to prove that we can really bring back to life Srila Prabhupad, but to do so, Swamiji needs us to ani- mate himself before us, like one Big Bird sitting with the small bird on the Nara tree- The Param- atma and the atma together in one body, not made of material ele- ments(stable) but the unstable ones(radioactive). This was per- ceived by a Japanese named Tomiyu- ki Tanaka, a film director who gave us the movie, GODZILLA( God`s lila) who became a monster on 1954 about nine years after the atomic bomb was dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. From hereon, eve- rything in Japan became animated. This is all because the people who lived there were exposed to the nu- clear radiation as a result of those blasts. The people in Japan have no sense of direction and only they could think of is animation, from Astro Boy to Sun Goku in the telemovie series, Dragon Ball Z. When I discovered how I could bring back to life in the animated form, Srila Prabhupad, I have to start reading all over again the science of nuclear physics and as- tronomy. All these branches of knowledge can be decoded by the book authored by Srila Prabhupad, and they are Srimad Bhagavatam and Srimad Bhagavad-gita. Everything about this wonderful science can be found in those books, such as CLONING(Expansions of the Lord). But be very careful because you might be able to find a way to invent the most deadly nuclear bomb, The Brahmastra. I`ll deal with you, guys, regarding this sub- ject on my next posting. O.K.? The Key to solve the riddle is in the words: HAREKRISHNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitreya Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Originally posted by Gauracandra: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Originally posted by Maitreya: ditto megaditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talasiga Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Originally posted by Gauracandra: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??? ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? your questions are missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanpeter Posted August 23, 2001 Report Share Posted August 23, 2001 Great jumpin' jehosophats! Someone's been bitin' into some BAD burfi! We've slipped into the TWILIGHT ZONE!!! Don't worry, prabhus, I've been here before! Melvin's right, the key is all there in the Holy Names!!! C'mon, we got chantin' to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvin Posted August 25, 2001 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 The Art Of Cloning ------------------- All living things whether animals or plants have one thing in common-that they are formed from a basic unit we call The Cell made of life-giving substance known as " Plasma " that contains more or less 30 chemical e- lements that gave rise to complex chemical substances(compounds)we at- tribute as PROTEINS, fats, and carbo- hydrates. Proteins are the Building Block of Life that gave meaning to our GENES (DNA) necessary for man`s growth and maintenance of life. Fats and carbo- hydrates, on the other hand, are com- binations of carbons, hydrogen, and oxygen. These are sources of energy needed to activate The Cell. Mineral salts, which make up less than 1% of The PLASMA are nevertheless important because they serve as chemcical regu- lators in the manufacture of tissues. The Cell Cells, therefore contain substances known as enzymes, hormones, and vita- mins that speed up chemical reactions that take place within the cell`s plasma without being affected by such a change. To all intents and purposes, The Cell is simply a BLOB bounded by a living wall we call The Membrane. Someliving things like PROTOZOANS are animals and the ALGAE are plants that are made up of a single cell. Others have considerable numbers. There maybe as many as 50,000,000 sperm cells that compose The SEMEN, or 10,000,000,000, red blood cells in 10 ml. of human blood. As such, there are millions of cells in the hair, the skin, and nails that die everyday without being aware of this fact. The Stem In plants, their cells are grouped to form tissues that serve a special pur- pose. Tissues, in turn, are combined to form an ORGAN in order to perform certain tasks for the Organism, and example of which is The Stem. It`s the equivalent of The Stomach in man. Plants have Roots anchored to the soil which are used to absorb water and mi- nerals from nature conducted upwards through The Stem. The Systems Organs therefore are grouped together to form systems e.g. Digestive system, etc. In plants, it is known as the ve- getative system composed of roots, stems, and leaves. The purpose of which, The Stomach in man, is to digest the raw materials it took from nature where its converted to food needed by the Organism to develop and grow. Finally, the various systems of such a living thing are combined to form the so-called Living Individual. It could be a lion. a bird, a heep, or a tree. Among them, Man is the most successful and dominant because of his creativeness and his conscious choice of what is GOOD and what is NOT. Man, in short, is a cultural Organism that have the intelligence and co- op- erative behaviour for adjusting to an environment where others like him ga- ther together as a social group. Be- cause of these unique traits, man there- fore has the ability to evolve into a SUPERMAN he`s destined to be, but not as an IDIOT. If man, in other words, can prolong his life like the SUPERMAN, then there`s no doubt man can conquer re-birth, death, old age, and disease. Cloning As An Art How to prolong man`s life is where the art of cloning comes when man shall con- sent to use his GENES where it could be cultured in an environment suitable of creating life, from its embryonal state to the neonatal stage, inside a simu- lated maternal womb that is equal to or approximately that of a Human UTERUS. The main problem here is where to find a suitable womb for our cloned-man say, melvin108, for the clone-scientist to implant this type of MUTANT seed. Any cloned-women volunteers out there? Haribol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanpeter Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 Maybe time to return to that hippie mantra of the late '60s--"Better STONED than CLONED!" [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 08-25-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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