Bush and Blair should read Srimad Bhagavatam!

[melvin]

Dear Valaya,

You must be a near relative of mine

for my last name is MABALAY. He, he.

I have a chanting (japa) beads with

me and that is the HOLY ROSARY given

to me by the Knights of Columbus of

which I`m a 2nd degree member. Well,

try to imagine, Me, praying Our

Father and Hail Mary and Glory Be,

while at the same time chanting the

Hare Krishna mantra on IT. Can you

do that?

 

Yours truly,

 

Melvin

[jijaji]

shvu:

But I guess, this is unavoidable, with Indian religious organizations wanting to go global, and trying to gather as many people as possible. We will only see more and more of this in future.

 

jijaji:

perhaps..but the variation melvin gives differs in that one of these groups will emerge as the topmost of the toppermost and their scripture will become the LAW-BOOK for humanity from then on.

I envision a gigantic bon fire where all the religious scriptures of the world will be burnt so the One Religion and One Scripture can prevail unchallenged.

 

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[shvu]

 

perhaps..but the variation melvin gives differs in that one of these groups will emerge as the topmost of the toppermost and their scripture will become the LAW-BOOK for humanity from then on.

I envision a gigantic bon fire where all the religious scriptures of the world will be burnt so the One Religion and One Scripture can prevail unchallenged.

There are plenty of people who believe, their own religion will some day be the only religion in the world.

 

The simple truth is, it makes absolutely no difference whether 10 people are sharing my faith or 10 million. How does the number matter? It will not affect my own progress in any way. Au contraire, when people get caught in such ideas, the effect can only be negative.

 

 

[animesh]

Satya ji: Or wearing white dhotis, sikhas and a big Iskcon’s japa-mala bag with their ‘gurus’ photo?

 

I am not saying that everyone should wear white dhotis, sikhas and japa-mala bag with this guru's photo. Personally, I do not have any of these. But, I will not look down upon anyone who uses these things. Just because, I wear fullpant, does not mean that I should despise those who wear dhotis.

[jijaji]

Originally posted by animesh:

Satya ji: Or wearing white dhotis, sikhas and a big Iskcon’s japa-mala bag with their ‘gurus’ photo?

 

I am not saying that everyone should wear white dhotis, sikhas and japa-mala bag with this guru's photo. Personally, I do not have any of these. But, I will not look down upon anyone who uses these things. Just because, I wear fullpant, does not mean that I should despise those who wear dhotis.

 

It was pretty funny to imagine amineshji..

 

Bush in a dhoti and sikha..!

 

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[shvu]

 

Jijaji,

 

The fact that it has not happened till date does not mean, it can never happen. Who knows? After all, a Mahajana has prophesied, apparently.

 

All rascals like me will get knocked of in the war; people who were audacious enough to criticise the authenticity of the Thakurs, Goswamis, Maharajs and the Srilas. For the remaining folks [the non-skeptical type], one fine morning they will wake up to see the end of the war. Miraculously, all the Vedas, Bibles, Qurans, etc will be transformed/replaced by Srimad Bhagavatam [translated by a "pure devotee"], by the power of Yogamaya.

 

Then the whole world will have one religion, KC and one holy book [the iskcon translation of the SB]. West Bengal will be to the new world, like Rome is to the present world. The ambition of taking over the planet will be fulfilled.

 

Cheers

 

 

[jijaji]

quote:

The ambition of taking over the planet will be fulfilled.

 

jijaji:

To have this ambition is indicative of wanting EGO fullfillment, recognition etc.

It is also the result of a meglomania type religious mindset!

 

For ANY religion to think that they are here to save all and that one day in the future their scriptute will become THE only LAW-BOOK for humamity is nothing short of a JIHAD mentality!

 

of course we are just fault-finders..

 

 

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[melvin]

Jijaji,

Are you taking SOMA RASA?

It seems your graphics

before signing-off speaks

of it. Or maybe you have

this disease called POST-

URAL VERTIGO, or motion

sickness. O.K. Take a deep

breath so you can inhale

more oxygen instead of car-

bon dioxide.

 

Youre truly,

 

Melvin

[Guest guest]

Dear Melvin;

 

Jijaji’s new graphics are but an allegory. It can be called ‘Afghan’s nights’ or ‘Koran dreams.’ Very good taste indeed!

 

[jijaji]

Originally posted by melvin:

Jijaji,

Are you taking SOMA RASA?

It seems your graphics

before signing-off speaks

of it. Or maybe you have

this disease called POST-

URAL VERTIGO, or motion

sickness. O.K. Take a deep

breath so you can inhale

more oxygen instead of car-

bon dioxide.

 

Youre truly,

 

Melvin

don't worry melvin....I will share the soma-rasa. It's highly recommended during war time! I have a highly stoney strain..yummm!

 

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[jijaji]

Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:

Dear Melvin;

Jijaji’s new graphics are but an allegory. It can be called ‘Afghan’s nights’ or ‘Koran dreams.’ Very good taste indeed!

Or Bin Laden POP TARTS!

 

POP POP POP POP POP!

 

 

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[melvin]

Dear (Urs Truly) Jijaji,

I don`t take SOMA RASA

because it can give you

an illusion of what you

are not. I don`t take

amphetamines or dope

that give you a sense

of being the Lord. But

you are not, nor you, in

anyway, with your(+)

Romberg`s test for al-

coholism, can give you

courage when you and

your Special Forces get

to confront the Taliban

warriors in Afghanistan.

This war won`t be like

the Desert Storm which

in one swoop defeated

Sadam`s Army. This war

is the Ultimate one

where you have to use ur

brains, not brawn to de-

feat the enemy. Do you

have the former trait?

Well, I doubt it.

 

Respectfully yours,

 

Melvin

[Tarun]

Dhotis are worn at Winchester Cathedral.

It's mentioned in the famous megaphonic #1 hit song's lyrics:

Oh Dhoti Oh Dho, Oh Dhoti Oh Dho!

Substantial proof.

Demons are also Vedik, though not Vaisnav.

Those in rajogun worship demons.

Those is tamogun worship ghosts.

Those who believe in Bushala enjoy a special blend...

of rajas & tamas;

Nothing to be proud of.

Gore won Florida. The votes were finally tallied.

So why Blair is even bothering to speak to Bushel?

Why not, along with Gore, keep Bushing in the White House too?

Wherein? In a room filled with Legos & Weighted Paper Planes.

That way we can keep an eye on his daily progress.

Therein Bushman can practice srsti/pralaya over & over again.

Without hurting anyone, sans harming a soul.

Something for everyone.

America, Love it or Leave it; or better yet: Play Lego in it.

[Jahnava Nitai Das]

To think that the world will be under ONE religion and under one LAW-BOOK i.e.....Srimad Bhagavatam is nothing short of insane FUNDAMENTALISM..!

Great saints such as Shankaracharya have made statements such as:

 

ekam shastram devaki-putra-gitam

eko devo devaki-putra eva

eko mantras tasya namani yani

karmapy ekam tasya devasya seva

 

"Let there be one scripture, the Gita of Lord Krishna. Let there be one God, the son of Devaki. Let there be one mantra, Lord Krishna's name. Let there be one activity, the service of Lord Krishna."

 

To Shvu:

The claimed quote from "His Divine Grace" by Melvin was manufactured by him. It does not exist and has never been said by anyone else. That should be obvious since Jijaji's name appears in it. But even as a general quote, Prabhupada has not made such statements.

 

[jijaji]

jnds:

Great saints such as Shankaracharya have made statements such as:

 

ekam shastram devaki-putra-gitam

eko devo devaki-putra eva

eko mantras tasya namani yani

karmapy ekam tasya devasya seva

 

"Let there be one scripture, the Gita of Lord Krishna. Let there be one God, the son of Devaki. Let there be one mantra, Lord Krishna's name. Let there be one activity, the service of Lord Krishna."

 

jijaji:

O k..well that is still fundamentalism!

 

What about all the other religions of the world?

 

To be honest with you I don't trust what you posted as being from Shankaracharya.

 

Shankaracharya certainly didn't teach Krishna bhakti as the only way..that is for sure.

 

 

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[jijaji]

melvin:

This war is the Ultimate one

where you have to use ur

brains, not brawn to de-

feat the enemy. Do you

have the former trait?

Well, I doubt it.

 

jijaji:

Wha

y do you doubt it..? Because I don't to your way of think..?

 

Oh that must mean everyone who disagrees with your fundamentalistic outlook is wrong and will not survive the war?

 

COMPLETE LUNANCY !!

 

You live and think in a very limited black and white reality tunnel.

 

Plus you seem to know very little of religion you claim will take over humanity!

 

 

 

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[Jahnava Nitai Das]

O k..well that is still fundamentalism!

 

What about all the other religions of the world?

 

I think the distinction is one of "desiring" something to occur for the benefit of the world. If I say, "let the entire world be pure devotees of Lord Krishna" it doesn't imply that I would go around with a gun and force everyone to convert. It is just a desire that the world should be like that.

 

In that sense, let the entire world follow the Gita, let them all chant the name of Krishna, let there be one deity, and one service. That would certainly benefit the world.

[recruit]

There is only one religion, Harer Namah...chant the Holy Names. All others are subsidiary. Krsna has unlimited names, of which Allah, Yaweh and Buddha are but a few. What is there left to argue about? Nothing, time for action folks, time to get out in the streets and purify the atmosphere with Harinam!

 

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna

Krsna Krsna Hare Hare

Hare Rama Hare Rama

Rama Rama Hare Hare

 

Let Freedom Ring!(with the sound of the Holy Name!)

In Krsna We Trust!

[jijaji]

quote:

There is only one religion, Harer Namah...chant the Holy Names. All others are subsidiary. Krsna has unlimited names, of which Allah, Yaweh and Buddha are but a few. What is there left to argue about?

 

jijai:

sorry not all people agree that yours is the only Religion and to think so is silly and simply beating your own chest, tooting your own horn, go team go, ra ra ra , our teams best...!

 

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[melvin]

People who oppose Krishna is

a Demon. So I`m not surprised

to know that there`s one or

two here. Who they are? Well,

your guess is as good as mine.

[jijaji]

Originally posted by melvin:

People who oppose Krishna is

a Demon. So I`m not surprised

to know that there`s one or

two here. Who they are? Well,

your guess is as good as mine.

I am NOT I repeat NOT opposing Sri Krishna! I only oppose those of Fundamentalistic mindset who have tried to HIJACK the Religion of Mahaprabhu in order to manipulate sincere seekers... thus trying to elevate themselves as 'The Last Religion on Earth' for the gratification of their missionary-inflated EGO'S.

 

 

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[marco]

Jijaji, if my father, Melvin, was

a fundamentalist, then so be it.

But just leave him alone since he

is now in our Father`s Heaven. He

can`t defend himself anymore be-

cause he has already departed for

Krishnaloka.

[jijaji]

Originally posted by marco:

Jijaji, if my father, Melvin, was

a fundamentalist, then so be it.

But just leave him alone since he

is now in our Father`s Heaven. He

can`t defend himself anymore be-

cause he has already departed for

Krishnaloka.

Jai Radhe

 

[marco]

My Father in Heaven, Christ Krishna, why

are US Pres. G.W. Bush and UK PM T. Blair

not interested in reading Srimad Bhagava-

tam, when the Holy Book was, in fact, edi-

ted into the English language? If only His

Divine Grace knew that these RASCALS wont

be reading YOUR Book, He should have not

gone to the West and have it printed, from

its Sanskrit translations to its present

form. In other words, if only His Divine

Grace knew that these RASCALs won`t be rea-

ding YOUR Book, He should have printed

IT instead in TAIWAN, CHINA and JAPAN!

 

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[marco]

Conversations with my father, Melvin.

----

 

Marco: Father why do you like to wear

shades? Are you blind? Of course

not! Otherwise you`d have not

taken the time to read this.

 

Melvin: You see, son, at 44 yrs., my

vision is not the way it was sup-

posed to be. I had been reading

Srimad Bhagavatam for 14 yrs. now

and yet there are still verses in

it that I have to understand why

Krishna is a boar, a tortoise, a

Lion, a Dwarf, Lord Buddha, the

Kalki Avatar, Dhanvantari, etc.

Krishna have unlimited expansions,

see? Even me is just uninsignifi-

cant expansion of His Lordship. A

drop in the bucket, so to speak.

 

Marco: My dear father, if it took that

long to study Srimad Bhagavatam

and yet has only scratched its

surface, then how could Rascals

like the US Pres. Bush and UK-PM

Tony Blair understand just even

its cover?

 

Melvin: Actually, my son, not only they

don`t read Srimad Bhagavatam but

in fact they don`t even read the

Holy Bible. Because if they did

they would have turned the other

cheek if someone slapped them on

the other side, and would say, "

Please forgive them GodFather for

they don`t know what they`re do-

ing."

 

Marco: In other words, if they followed

Lord Jesus command to love one a-

nother, then Mr. Bush and Blair

would not have bombed Afghanistan

just to ferret out a man they call

Osama Bin Laden. They would have

took pity on those Afghan civilians

who died during the bombing in Ka-

bul and Kandahar and immediately

declared to Gen. Colin Powell to

stop this carnage.

 

Melvin: That`s right, my son. But these

rascals are hence in no other way

different from the jackals in the

animal kingdom. That`s why they

must be stopped from pulling the

whole world to hell if they don`t

stop these senseless bombings.

 

Marco: How, my dear father who art in hea-

ven?

 

Melvin: Simple, my son. Erase them from

this web site!

 

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