kailasa Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 SP nitya-siddha, but nitya-siddha, it not yet top of His glory. All spiritual world nitya-siddha, but among them is devotee Goloka. And among pure devotee Goloka, is approached devotee Sri Caitanya. And among them there are those who preaches constantly. And among them there are those who in any slum can open to anyone all spiritual world. And among them there are, those who can distribute it, practically not doing distinctions worldwide. It is a level SP. He preaches to ALL categories devotee simultaneously. He gives top of mood of the spiritual world, but it not all. Higher top of His doctrine it to follow on His stops, to preach from life in life. Prabhupada Bhagavan of the sermon, He brings sarva saktis - ALL kinds of spiritual mood, sacred name, it not a sect. He is complete of power, but this power not of a level Vaikuntha, so see those who at this level and is. We are inclined to estimate all on the situation. His sermon combines all races. Krisna only combines in itself all races. Can be Krisna, is not a source Lord Narayana? Who actually source Lord Narayana? From SP point of view here all kanistha. Prabhupada works on pieces in thousand years, who that wants "to correct" His sermon? Most likely sermon Prabhupada will correct them. What to understand the books SP, it is necessary to work according to His instructions, were in ISKCON, except for ego and false concepts nothing prevents us to do it. Almost all rest is entertainments of merge in brahman - nirvisesa, it can move somehow, but essence in it. His books also represent all race, His movement is perfect, simply it is the plan Krisna to occupy and others in devoted service, having withdrawn them from idea of clearing. We only have begun, we do not know still even ultimate goal, we for the present except for how to spoil, nothing are able, but our situation is those. Here there will be a gold century, demigods would will come what to participate, many acariya will come, all only begins. As before the beginning of an opera, the orchestra trains also all goes rehearses as has got, but will begin the moment, all will abate, will open stage and the basic action will begin. Should come still radjarsi, the plan is those, is necessary varnasrama, it not so simply to make. How it is possible to tell what who accepts that SP, if he does not follow His manuals? Manual from among significant it - varnasrama, all rest already is PRESENT, it is possible to make that in addition, but doubtfully that it can be by Absolute true. Relative, can be. The grown-up devotee is the one who more restrained. And humility this following to the instructions, instead of "opening" of the spiritual world. ISCKON it is the books SP if to accept them as a management, all and will communicate. Kali yuga yet did not render the present impacts, therefore those who searches for true can receive her in my opinion without problems, well and all others Kali will teach slightly. Certainly, there are those who is simply interested in clearing, it is their choice. In sastra is spoken that it is a witch, but sastra to alter not long. At least it is better to them to not prevent then rests, as and in clearing there can be problems in this case. Thank, kailasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailasa Posted January 11, 2002 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 It concerning the publication all as to nitya-siddha and devotee which not in ISKCON, but practically officially apply for mission ISKCON, it by him(it) the message. I ask to forgive for anxiety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 According to ISKCON, IRM & Gaudiya History, there's 7 PrabhupAds. So when we're chanting Jaya Jaya PrabhupAd, PrabhupAd... all 7 are included within. Keeping that in mind, no offense can ever be committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailasa Posted January 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 "The spiritual master is addressed as “Prabhupäda” because he is a completely self-realized soul. The word päda means “position,” and Prabhupäda indicates that he is given the position of prabhu, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for he acts on behalf of the Supreme personality of Godhead. Unless one is a prabhu, or controller of the senses, he cannot act as spiritual master, who is authorized by the supreme prabhu, or Lord Kåñëa. In his verses praising the spiritual master, Çréla Viçvanätha Cakravarté Öhäkura writes: säkñäd-dharitvena samasta-çästrair uktas tathä bhävyata eva sadbhiù “The spiritual master is honored as much as the Supreme Lord because he is the most confidential servitor of the Lord.” Therefore them not 7, but I had in view of AC Bhaktivedanta Svami Prabhupada, I think that Srila Prabhupada well protected sastra from the non-authorized intrusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kailasa Posted January 17, 2002 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 There is no need to simulate the form, as writes BR Sridhara Svami. While devoted will reach the primary situation, he passes set steps and moods of spiritual life. The maximum steps are not reached by simply formal knowledge of them. The connection with the God in bhakti to yoga is not reached by meditation, the meditation is a roundabout way. In the relations attracts there is no reason, the basis of fidelity as has no the material reasons. We develop fidelity, making efforts, but the spontaneous fidelity can not be based on meditation and so-called knowledge. Spiritual sentiment are favorable undoubtedly, but the books Prabhupada and reflect adequately all race, About what HE And SPEAKS US CONSTANTLY. Simply it is deep, it requires not material efforts, it requires good luck and it requires dependence from Krisna, instead of this or that circuit. We work as the servant in relation to Lord Caitanya and the material world very much approaches for the relations in separation from the God. But why actually only in separation? We have visited already by servants Krisna, we as know what means the friendly relations, which send to fear for the Supreme Person of the God? Time to develop mathurya race undoubtedly has come. We undoubtedly well know the material world as, as to worship to Lord Narayana to speak about respect for Him there is no also sense. What sense, if at us already spontaneous relations with the God? But how to be in the event that we follow in the steps Srila Prabhupad? By it in this case problems with self-consciousness are not present. In this case at us other problems, problem of the sermon. Probably we begin to be engaged in these problems on simplicity sincere or on material motives, but really it is spiritual activity. Really in these "material" employment(occupations) all also is made. If we search of clearing, it is a way of an exit, but those who serves or try it to do, at them other vision. Everyone, who is advanced spiritually, do not search the spiritual world, they simply increase pleasure Krisna and spiritual master, helping anothers to return. Though on the other hand, the sermon is searches pure devotee. What means pure devotee? If it means - devotee, following in the steps Prabhupada, it is doubtless that so, this even is more. Sri Uddhava the large good luck writes - even to be born herb in this empire Goloka! The "below" our spiritual requirements at a general positive, the greater it is possible to reach. Forgive for an example, but in the material world, the reasonable man, searches for the restrained wife. Gopis own benefit already in any degrees at all does not interest. It is not simulated. Prabhupada gives us sambhoga in the relations between devotee, but our heart he opens in other race, therefore it forces down with sense. Losing habitual taste of spiritual ecstasy of meeting with the God, the soul comes in anxiety, she rushes, thinking that loses the God and one behind her other concept and attempt as that it to avoid fail. But in what that the moment she understands, that it proceeds from Krisna, and in too time she understands that is torn off from Him, so there is a movement. Probably one of perfection it sambhoga, meeting with the God, but it not maximum perfection. Therefore preserving us, BR Sridhara Svami also writes about it. But you see it is possible and to get rid of similar anxieties. It is possible you see simply to follow sambhoga. There can be it Gaudiya Vaisnavism? Can be Lord Caitanya speaks only about meeting in the ecstasy, but the purpose of His arrival and His mood is hardly made in sambhoga. Gosvami Vrindavan have written many books about games of the God, but it is necessary to understand that it was made with the purpose to increase ecstasy the Lord Caitanya in separation. Therefore literal understanding them sastra by it is not absolutely correct. And it as one of the reasons, why the majority of these books they have not left to us. Therefore these sastra not for development sambhoga. Therefore it is necessary to trust Prabhupada and to follow on His stops. Prabhupada clearly has told that nobody can jump over Him. The answers to all questions ARE in His books. But it not the usual books, are the spiritual books and require of the spiritual approach. What to understand sometimes sense and one lines, the years are required. The material mind searches of a variety, but the spiritual mind searches for depths. From the point of view brahman in maximum sense, it will seems what difficultly to find that or more perfect and deep, than book Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada our spiritual teacher, He learns to preach not for the sake of clearing and not for the sake of whose that of temporary feelings. He teaches to preach because the sermon in parampara Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and is both means and ultimate goal. The sacred name is shown by a various image, we know, that means brihad mridanga. But to understand that speaks us Srila Prabhupada and to preach by it it not smaller mridanga, than to distribute the books. All of us small birdies in comparison with the material world. But value of birdies not at a rate of nose , and in fidelity to the God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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