dna Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 I came across this site: http://www.urday.com/24avtaar5.htm#par and it says that Sage Vyasa was the 19th incarnation of Lord Vishnu. It says that he appeared before Ram, if this is true, how could he have compiled the conversation between Krishna and Arjuna at Kurukshetra, when Krishna had not appeared on Earth yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxvvii Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 WRONG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 19th Incarnation on that 1st Canto 3rd Chapter list. VyAsadev's BhISma's contemporary. Guesstimate 100 yrs pre-KRSNa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahak Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Vyasa is still here. Narada is still present, and Lord Brahma is still here. Vyasa's appearance is described in Mahabharata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted July 26, 2002 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by mahak: Vyasa is still here. Narada is still present, and Lord Brahma is still here. Vyasa's appearance is described in Mahabharata. where? are you talking about physically present? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhaktajoy Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by dna: where? are you talking about physically present? They will live as long as mother Earth.Parashurama,Vyasdeva and other incarnations are still here undergoing austerities for benefit of all mankind.We cannot perceive them with our material senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Vyasa is a post changed every chatur-yuga. Valmiki (the author of Ramayana) was himself a Vyasa for his millenium. Next chatur-yuga, Ashvathama, the childhood friend of Arjuna, will hold the post of Vyasa. Vyasa is an empowered incarnation of the Lord. Vishnu empowers a living entity to carry out the work of compiling the Vedic scriptures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karthik_v Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Originally posted by bhaktajoy: They will live as long as mother Earth.Parashurama,Vyasdeva and other incarnations are still here undergoing austerities for benefit of all mankind.We cannot perceive them with our material senses. True. Regarding Parasurama, I have come across another argument that though he was a shaktya avesha avatara, after he annihilated the kshatriyas 21 times, he ceased to be an avatara and that was why Rama was able to vanquish him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 His empowermen reduced, otherwise Beijing, Moscow, DC would've all become Flatliner-Loka long ago. According to ZrIla ZrIdhardev Mhrj, 7 Amaras r on this planet right now including AzvatthAmA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raga Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Vyasa is a post changed every chatur-yuga. Valmiki (the author of Ramayana) was himself a Vyasa for his millenium. Next chatur-yuga, Ashvathama, the childhood friend of Arjuna, will hold the post of Vyasa. You have any references for this? SB 8.13.16 states that Asvatthama will be one of the sapta-rishis during the next (eighth) manvantara, along with Badarayana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 The past 28 Vyasas for this manvantara and the next few are listed in Vishnu Purana. If you want a particular verse number I will get it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Regarding Parasurama, I have come across another argument that though he was a shaktya avesha avatara, after he annihilated the kshatriyas 21 times, he ceased to be an avatara and that was why Rama was able to vanquish him. Lord Ramachandra withdrew his shakti from Parashurama by shooting an arrow on it. When they met, after Ramachandra drew his bow, Parashurama realized it was Narayana, so he prayed to Him. Ramachandra replied that having drawn my bow, I must shoot the arrow, so tell me what to shoot. Parashurama replied that he should shoot the arrow on the shakti he empowered him with and withdraw it from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 When they met, after Ramachandra drew his bow, Parashurama realized it was Narayana... Parashurama tried to invoke the bow of Narayana, but found himself unable to. Then when he looked up at Ramachandra, the same bow he was trying to invoke was being held in Lord Rama's hand with the string drawn. Thus he realized it was Narayana present before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxvvii Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 In any case, I think, Vyasa shouldn't be put together with Rama, Krishna, & Buddha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Why not with Buddha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 You have any references for this? SB 8.13.16 states that Asvatthama will be one of the sapta-rishis during the next (eighth) manvantara, along with Badarayana. Just as a side note, the period of next manvantara (when Ashwathama becomes a sapta-rishi) and that of the next divya-yuga (when Ashwathama becomes Vyasa) are two completely different time frames. The next divya yuga occurs in 427,000 years. The next manvantara occurs after another 43 divya-yugas (or roughly 185,760,000 years). So I see no contradiction in the statements. Also, (though it is not relevant in this case due to the time difference) there is no reason to assume the two posts are necessarily mutually exclusive. If the Lord wanted to, he could empower a sapta-rishi to act as Vyasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Will Ashvatthama be qualified enough to become Vyasa in the next dwapar yuga? Isn't he suffering from a curse by Krsna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahak Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 This is an informative thread. There are many great souls still personally present, not forgetting Hanuman and others from Rama Times. Ashvattama has wet sores for perpetuity, not for killing the sleeping sons of Draupadi. He was exhonorated by Draupadi for this crime, and lost his jewel as punishment. His crime after that, attacking King Pariksit while he was yet unborn, was wehat got him in his present quandry. haribol, Im not quite used to this new system, hare krsna, ys, mahaksadasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted August 15, 2002 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 In a samadhi state and drowned in the Bliss of Krishn love, he is still in his cave in the Himalayas, covered under a glacier and is totally inaccessible to human beings. There is a reference of his personal meeting with Shankaracharya 2,500 years ago, and another reference is about 500 years ago (in the books of Pushti Marg) when Vallabhacharya, using his Divine powers, went to the cave of Ved Vyas and stayed there three days, talking about the charming Blissfulness of Krishn and His flute as described in the verse of the tenth canto of the Bhagwatam. http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/56_the_decension_of.htm Anyone know more about Vallabhacharya? I know that he was a contemporary of Lord Chaitanya and is considered a partial incarnation of Vishnu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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