Tarun Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 dattvA vidyAuSadhaM bhaktAn, niravadyAn karoti yaH | dRk pathaM bhajatu zrImAn, zrI tyAtmA sa hariH svayam || He who gives vidyA tonic to His devotees, making them disease-free, may that Joyous One, Hari Himself, come within my vision's scope. adhyAya/section 4.pAda/part, root 1.sUtra/code 1 4.1.1 AvRttir asakRd upadezAt Repetition repeatedly instructions Practice sAdhana requires repetition because scripture itself repeats instructions. 482 4.1.2 lingAt Due to/from indication And there's indication showing repetition's necessity. 483 4.1.3 Atmeti tupagacchanti grAhayanti ca Supreme Self as but acknowledge apprehend and. But Masters contemplate Brahman & teach it so to their disciples. 484 4.1.4 na pratike na hi Not in symbols not because Brahman is not contemplated as Self in symbols like manas/mind for the symbol is not God. 485 4.1.5 brahma dRStir utkarSAt View of Brahman due to superiority God should be thought of as Brahman, for such meditation is most exalted. 486 4.1.6 AdityAdi matayaz cAnga upapatteH About Sun etc. ideas and in limbs that being proved reasonable Contemplation that Sun etc. (emanates from His Eyes) should be held with regard yo His Limbs due to its reasonableness. 487 4.1.7 AsInaH sambhavAt sitting due to, from possibility God should be meditated upon by devotee in sitting posture. 488 4.1.8 dhyAnAn ca due to concentrated meditation and And because meditation is possible in sitting posture only. 489 4.1.9 Acalatvan cApexa motionlessness indeed referring to And zruti refers to motionlessness as dhyAna condition. 490 4.1.10 smaranti ca They recall (mentioned in SmRti) also SmRtis also teach same (sitting posture meditation requisite) 491 4.1.11 yatraikAgratA tatrAvizeSAt where mind concentration unspecified Whenever mind's one-pointedness occurs, there let meditation be performed. 492 Lewsnic and AnePi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 19, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2001 This 4th adhyAya includes 4 pAdas, 78 sUtras (482-559). 4.1.12 AprAyaNAt tatrApi hi dRSTam | till/from salvation, there even, because, is seen in Zruti (Deity Worship should be done) till salvation & thereafter too. Certainly it is so seen in Revelation. 493 4.1.13 tad adhigame uttara pUrvAghayor azleSa vinAzau tad avyapadezAt | of him, knowledge being attained, of latter (what's being done), of former (what's stored), of both sins, non-clinging and destruction, that being declared On obtaining that (vidyA), detachment from works done in present life & dissolution of works stored done in past life occurs. This is so declared in UpaniSads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 25, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 4.1.14 - itarasya apy evam azleSaH pAte tu of other, of good deeds also thus detached, after destruction, fall or death; Same is true with other (good deeds); but, indeed. stored-up good deeds are destroyed, good deeds done in present life don't cling to doer. Doer gets mukti upon reduction of his prArabdha-karmas. 495 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 27, 2001 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2001 4.1.15 anArabdha-kArye eva tu pUrve tad-avadheH whose effects have not yet begun, only, but, with respect to former or stored good deeds, that, being time's duration Knowledge destroys only immature Karmas of former lives whose effects have not yet begun. Why? Because this a jnAnin's life limit. A wiseman's longevity = time period over which his karmas which have already begun to produce their effects extend. 496 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaRup Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Originally posted by Tarun: Namaste Tarun, Where can I find the Vedanta Sutras (Roman or devanaagarii script) on the net. - Please - ys sr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 1, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 This is doubly, triply interesting in light of which bombs Bushover is dropping on Afghanistan's farmers, citizens. All are supposedly non-nuclear. However, one being used is able to remove oxygen from the immediate atmosphere, literally sucking lungs out of chests. Bush is unadmittedly, directly targetting civilian populations which raises the burning question: ???How many Lord BrahmA lifetimes in sub-human, e.g. scorpion, snake, stoolworm births (if he never sins again) will it take to exhaust Bushwhacker's prarabdha karmas alone??? Same question for those who support or follow him: How many? VedAnta-sUtra has these answers. Unfortunately, our 'Present Presto President' is totally illiterate as well as being totally illegitimate. Bushit was never against Abortion. He's just plain Bushit. Back to zAstra, Absolute Truth. 4.1.16 agnihotrAdi tu tat kAryAyaiva tad darzanAt daily fire + other offerings, but indeed, in that (knowledge's) form, to getting fruit's effect, even, that, due to being seen But regular routine fire (& other) sacrifice produce vidyA as their effect. From realization, direct perception this is known. In summary, Prarabdha-Karmas are only destroyed by one actually undergoing suffering for all evil + enjoying all good deeds' fruits he has performed. Or as Bv PrabhupAd used to say: "You may hide yourself from State Laws, but you can't hide from God's Laws." No one gets away with anything, what to speak of wholesale murder. Some say this is the only way they know to efficiently reduce world overpopulation. Systematic Murder. God's Law "Thou Shalt Not Kill" remains intact. Some men have lost their way... Kaliyuga has that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 1, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Sarupji: right here. Or on Commercial-free Pacifica WBAI 99.5 FM - stay tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 3, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 4.1.17 atonyApi hy ekeSAm ubhayoH ataH - than this Zruti declaration declaring PrArabdha remaining active by Lord's Will, other than that, because, in some SAkhAs, of both good & evil commenced For some nirapexa devotees (extremely ardent God-lovers), both good & evil Prarabdha non-clinging occurs (lotus leaf in water," iSikA reeds burning.") Certainly, because some branches declare it so. 498 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaRup Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Originally posted by Tarun: Sarupji: right here. Or on Commercial-free Pacifica WBAI 99.5 FM - stay tuned Thanks Tarun, Have I missed the beginning of it? And what is WBAI 99.5 FM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 4, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Sarupji: No. I purposefully jumped to its last or 4th adhyAya. Just in case we die 'fore Christmas. With Bushit in White House, who can guarantee otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 7, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 4.1.18 yad eva vidyayetihi whatever, by knowledge, so, because "Whatever he does with knowledge" intimates Prarabdha-karmas may go to another. 4.1.19 bhogena tvitare xapayitvA'tha sampadyate by/with heavenly pleasures, but, other 2 (sthUla & suxma), giving up, then obtains/joins Having renounced gross & subtle bodies, he joins in relishing Divine Bliss along with Lord. 500 Herein ends VedAnta-sUtra's 4th adhyAya, 1st pAda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 10, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 4th adhyAya, 2nd pAda, 1st adhikaraNa mantrAd yasya parAbhUtAH, parAbhUtAdayograhAH | nazyanti sva-lasat tRSNaH, sa kRSNaH zaraNaM mama || May that Supreme Lord ZrI KRSNa, His devotees’ Lover, be my refuge. From His Sacred Name’s recitation, all sensual & vital obsessing elements are vanquished. This pAda includes 21 sUtras. 4.2.1 vAN manasi darzanAC chabdAc ca speech, in mind, from zAstra, from Vedik sound, and Speech together with its function is merged in mind, for it is seen so & scripture declares so. 501 4.2.2 ataH eva sarvANy anu for this very reason, all senses, after This is precisely why, after speech, all other senses merge in mind. 502 4.2.3 tan manaH prANa uttarAt that, mind, breath, from subsequent clause That mind in which all senses have entered in Breath due to subsequent clause. Keep your ChandogyopaniSad (6.6.1 manaH prANe, prANas tejasi) handy for reference. 503 4.2.4 so’adhyaxe ad upagamAdibhyaH that, in president/soul, due to “life with senses going to individual soul” statements He (prANa) enters ruler (jIva) due to statements as to his coming to soul (found in bRhad araNyakopaniSad 4.3.38). 504 4.2.5 bhUtezu tac chruteH In elements, about that, Veda says Individual soul with prANa merges into elements because there’s scriptural statement to that effect. 505 4.2.6.naikasmin darzayato hi not, in one, they both (question & answer) show, because Individual soul doesn’t enter into one element only, for both question & answer declare contrary. 506 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 12, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2001 4.2.7 samAnA cAsRty upakramAd amRtatvaM cAnupoSya common, indeed, proceeding further/up to, From/before beginning, immortality, aznd sans burning, sans dissolving Actually, common (to knower & non-knower) is departure up to beginning of path. And immortality is metaphorical sans having burned body connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 12, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2001 4.2.8 tadApIteH saMsArabya padezAt that, till Brahman union acquired, repeated birth & death/mundane world, state being named That immortality (mentioned in Brhd AranykopaniSad 4.4.7) refers to saints’ sinlessness because scripture teaches SaMsAra condition lasts till Brahman realization time. 508 4.2.9 sUxma pramANataz ca tathopalabdheH subtle body, from authoritative knowledge or means, and, thus, it being observed Yet subtle body persists, due to scriptural evidence & body existence observed even on higher planes. 509 4.2.10 nopamarddenAtaH not, by bondage’s destruction, for this reason Hence, BRhad Ar Up text 4.4.7 should not be taken to teach destruction of physical body’s connection. Instead it teaches truly good men enjoy eternal mental peace. 510 4.2.11 tasyaiva copapatter USmA of that very (subtle body), verily, and, it being possible, HEAT And to that very subtle body belongs warmth (perceived by touch) because it is reasonable 511 4.2.12 pratiSedhAd iti cen na zArIrAt on account of denial, so, if, not, because departure from embodied soul (prohibited). If it be said, he who knows does not leave body, due to prohibition, then we reply: “It is not so. Prohibition refers to PrANas exiting embodied soul. 512 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 15, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 4.2.13 spaSTo hy eteSam clear, because of some (sAkhAs = critical reviews) Surely it is clear, according to some recensions. 513 4.2.14 smaryate ca mentioned in smRti, and It is declared in historical revealed scripture too. 4.2.15 tAni pare tathA hy Aha these (tejas, speech + denoted by them) in highest, thus, because, says These (fire etc, plus senses), merge in highest, for ZrUti declares it. 515 4.2.16 avibhAgo vacanAt no division, due to statement By way of identity, PrANas permanent atoms merge, for there is no separation, as stated by authoritative text. 516 4.2.17 tadoko'gra jvalanaM tat prakAzita dvAro vidyA sAmarthyAt taccheSa gaty anusmRti yogac ca hArdAnugRhItaH zatAdhikayA of that (soul in which elements have entered), abode/heart, point lighting up/heart's upper portion becomes illumined, by Him (heart-dwelling Lord), shown, door/root from which 101st artery orginates, by power of its knowledge, remainder, pat stages, due to memory application, and, Heart-abiding Lord, being assisted by, by 101st artery Then His Abode point lights up. By door so illumined by Him, soul departs through 101st artery by virtue of wisdom power, by path memory application resulting from such wisdom, and by Lord in Heart's favor. 517 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 16, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 4.2.18 razmy anusArI = rays, following Wisemen follow sunrays whether dying day or night. 518 4.1.19 nizineti cen na saMbandhasya yAvad deha bhAvitvAt darzayati at night, not, so, if, not, of relation, as long as, body exists, due to existence, scriptures show, also If objected: "One dying at night cannot follow sunrays," we reply, "Not True! Connection between rays & body persists so long body lasts. Scripture too declares this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 16, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 4.2.18 razmy anusArI = rays, following Wisemen follow sunrays whether dying day or night. 518 4.1.19 nizineti cen na saMbandhasya yAvad deha bhAvitvAt darzayati at night, not, so, if, not, of relation, as long as, body exists, due to existence, scriptures show, also If objected: "One dying at night cannot follow sunrays," we reply, "Not True! Connection between rays & body persists so long body lasts." Scripture too declares this. 519 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 19, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2001 4.2.20 ataz cAyane'pi daxine ataH - for this reason ca - and, ayane - in sun's progress/orbit api - also, daxine in southern For same reason, sage dying during Sun's southern orbit achieves Brahma world. 520 4.2.21 yoginaH prati smaryate smArte caite yoginaH - Brahman's devotees prati - about, smaryate - is remembered smArte - both are worth remembering - dual case ca - and, ete - these 521 Thus ends 3rd pAda, 4th adhyAya, VedAnta-sUtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 20, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2001 4.2.20 ataz cAyane'pi daxine ataH - for this reason ca - and, ayane - in sun's progress/orbit api - also, daxine in southern For same reason, sage dying during Sun's southern orbit achieves Brahma world. 520 4.2.21 yoginaH prati smaryate smArte caite yoginaH - Brahman's devotees prati - about, smaryate - is remembered smArte - both are worth remembering - dual case ca - and, ete - these Text above mentions these 2 paths ought to be remembered by yogins (not that yogi should die in one, not other). 521 Conclusion: For unwise, daytime is best. For wise, body may be left anytime, any season; surely he will reach Lord Hari. Thus ends 3rd pAda, 4th adhyAya, VedavyAsa's VedAnta-sUtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 22, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 vedAnta-sUtrAs: 4th adhyAya, 3rd pAda (16 codes) Today is Thanksgiving. Today is President JFK's 38th assassination anniversary. Our Warren Commission report has been totally refuted. 4.3.1 arcir AdinA tat prathiteH by ray's path, that, being well-known 522 4.3.2 vAyum abdAd avizeSa vizeSAbhyAm wind, before entering Great Sun/Lord, owing to non-specification, owing to specification 523 4.3.3 taDito'dhi varuNaH sambandhAt of lightning, above, Ocean demigod, from this relation VaruNa's world is above Lightning due to their intimate connection. 524 4.3.4 AtivAhikAs tal-lingAt best conductors (vah = carry), that, being indicated 'Archis' etc. are AtivAhika-devas/soul conductors due to indicatory mark in text. 525 4.3.5 ubhaya vyAmohAt tat siddheH in both, owing to confused/untenable, tat, being established Their being conductors is established on grounds that: both are alternatives being (untenable, since) confused. 526 4.3.6 vaidyutenaiva tatas tac-chruteH by that non-human person having reached Lightning, then/after reaching Lightning, for that, because of Vedik text When soul has reached Lightning, next (it's carried to Brahman) by (amAnava puruSa) who comes down to Lightning (to receive it). for such is (speaks) Zruti/scripture. 527 4.3.7 bAdarirasya gaty upapatteH effect, bAdariH holds, of this (effect) going, being possible As per sage bAdari, amAnava puruSa leads souls to effected Brahman; for such Brahman alone can possibly be their goal. 528 4.3.8 vizeSitatvAc ca being specified, and And due to specification as regards Brahman showing Brahman) is goal. 529 4.3.9 sAmIpyAt tad vyapadezaH due to nearness, that, designation That Mukti brand is given when man reaches BrahmA-world, for that is samIpya mukti form. 530 4.3.10 kAryAtyaye tad adhyaxeNa sahAtaH paramabhidhAnAt effected world, at end, of that, with ruler (4-faced BrahmA), saha/with, ataH/from this, param/Highest (id est Brahman); abhidhAnAt - due to scriptural declaration When effected world & its president pass away, souls go from 4-faced BrahmA to Supreme, for scripture uses word Supreme. 531 4.3.11 smRtez ca on account of smRti statement, and And from smRti same mode is learned. 532 4.3.12 paraM jaiminir mukhyatvAt highest (indeed BrahmA), Jaimini holds, due to meaning's primariness Sage Jaimini opines (non-human Person only leads souls who meditate on Supreme Brahman) to Supreme, for word "Brahman" primarily means Supreme Brahman. 533 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 26, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 4.3.13 darzanAc ca from vision/philosophy/realization, too And it is so seen in Scripture too. 534 4.3.14 na ca kArye pratipatty abhisandhiH not, and, in effected (Brahman), of knowledge/aim, desire And Sage does NOT intentionally desire to reach effected Brahman (and not Highest, Lord Himself). 535 4.3.15 apratIkAlambanAn nayatIti bAdarAyaNa ubhayathA ca doSAt tat kratuz ca not, upon symbols, depend, leads, so, VyAsadev holds, both ways, and from defects, about that, thought (he whose thought is about that) according to Tat-kratuH maxim, too Subtle being leads Supreme worshippers' souls sans any symbol. This is BAdarAyaN's opinion for there is defect in both other views & because "Tat kratuH" maxim ("as is one's thoughts, so is his goal) requires it to be so. 536 * * * (palatal n = ~) * * * 4.3.16 vizaSa~ca darzayati difference, and, scripture declares And Scripture itself shows special case w.r.t. some Nirapexas (desireless). 537 End of 3rd pAda, 3rd adhyAya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 26, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 4th pAda (final 21 sUtras) akaitave bhaktisave'nurajyan, svamevayaH sevakamAt karoti | tato'timodaM muditaH sa devaH, sadA cidAnanda tanur dhinotu || Let that God, Whose Body consists of Cognizant Bliss, always afford us contentment. He is always pleased with His devotee's guideless/guileless love. In return, He offers Himself as His devotee's servant. Being thus satisfied by their devotion, He in turn satisfies them. 4.4.1 sampadyAvirbhAvaH svena-zabdAt of person who's reached Brahman, manifestation, by one's own, inferred from word Phrase "accomplishing one's own form" means manifestation in one's own form. Word svena (in its own) indicates that. 538 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 29, 2001 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2001 4.4.2 muktaH pratijnAnAt liberated one, due to promise Mukta's condition is manifestation in its owm form. It's mentioned in Chh Up (8.12.3) In Chh Up (8.7.1) Prajapati BrahmA promised to teach "mukta" condition to Indradev. 539 4.4.3 AtmA prakaraNAt soul, due to subject matter Atman/soul is that Highest Light; due to context. 540 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 1, 2001 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2001 4.4.4 avibhAgena dRSTatvat by non-division, being seen in scripture Freed soul exists in non-separated state from Lord, due to Scriptural text. 541 4.4.5 brahmeNa jaiminir upanyAsAdibhyaH Brahman's gift, JaiminiH (holds), by suggestion, reference etc. According to Jaimini: freed soul manifests with all attributes given by Brahman due to references (as contained in other UpaniSad passages). 542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 9, 2001 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 4.4.6 cititan matreNa tadAtmaka tvAdity auDolomiH in Intelligence/Brahman, with solely that nature of intelligence, tad = that, being essential, so, AuDolomi thinks Jivan-mukta, upon entering All-Intelligence, manifests merely as that (intelligence); Due to (of statement that it is) essentially that alone, thus opines AuDolomi. 543 4.4.7 evam apy upanyAsAt pUrva bhAvAd avirodhaM bAdarAyaNaH thus, even : though soul be mere intelligence, due to suggestion/reference: Prajapati's words' authority, pUrva = former's, due to statement's existence, avirodham = non-contradiction, BadarAyaNa (thinks) Even (though soul) thus (pure intelligence) yet due to authority (of PrajApati's words), there's no contradiction in existence of former (8 qualities). 544 4.4.8 sankalpAdeva tac-chruteH by will, indeed, about it, there being scriptural statement (Muktas meet their relatives & rest) by their mere will; due to zruti text 545 4.4.9 ata eva cAnanyAdhipatiH for this reason, indeed, and, having no other master (except God) And for this reason, indeed, he has no other Master. 546 4.4.10 abhAve bAdarirAha hy evam as regards absence, BAdari, says, because, thus BAdari (opines jivan-mukta) has no material body, because thus, scriptures declare. 547 4.4.11 Aha hy evaM jaiminir vikalpAmananAt says, because, thus, Jaimini, option, by thinking about/mentioning Jaimini (otherwise) holds that, because scriptures declare thus, ergo mukta has body, as passage declares multi-body possession option. 548 4.4.12 dvAdazAhavad ubhaya-vidhaM bAdarAyaNo'tiH 12, like days/just as 12 day sacrifice, of both kinds, BadarAyaNaH (thinks), for this very reason For this reason, BAdarAyaNa holds muktas are of both types (bodiless/embodied), just as 12 day sacrifice (is both ahIna & sattra). ahIna = entire, unimpaired, whole sattra = session, house, asylum, hospital, fraud, deception, tank, pond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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