The Difference Between Conservatives and Liberals

[Guest guest]

A conservative and a liberal were walking down the street when they came upon a homeless person. The conservative gave the

homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

 

The liberal was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the conservative's pocket and gave him fifty

dollars.

 

[Maitreya]

LOL That's it.

 

And then the liberal,all filled with compassion went to lobby his congressperson to increase taxes on the rich to build more welfare offices to aid all the other homeless fellows.

 

This was taken up by the Congress with all earnestness.

 

Taxes went up so much though that the conservative businessman could not afford to hire any new help and even had to lay off the first homelessman that he had subsequently hired.

 

The liberal then denounced him as heartless.

[talasiga]

But the Conservative countered this

by going to a public place

and pulled his heart out of his top pocket

and held it high

for the world to see.

 

And the Liberal was sorely amazed

and dejected

He left politics and became a

journalist (again).

 

And the homeless man

slept on the Liberal's newspaper articles

and dreamt of olden golden days

when beggars taxed the rich

and governments defended them.....

 

snooze zzzzzzz zzzzz

[Guest guest]

You have THAT backwards - it's the conservative ideology which is the lost cause - not the liberal...

[Guest guest]

 

 

In case you have been asleep for the past decade---

 

The liberals have lost:

The White House /images/graemlins/grin.gif

The Senate /images/graemlins/grin.gif

The House of Representatives /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Most State Governorships /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

and now, President Bush will produce a conservative majority on the Supreme Court. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

The liberals have been in steady decline since 1994. Keep thinking like you do, and above all, keep the demented Dr. Dean as chairman of your party. If you think you are ahead, keep doing what you have been doing!!! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

conservatives cant even beat girls.

 

Poor slade gorton, he lost his senate seat to patty murray, then could not get it back against a do-nothing liberal named cantwell, and even the republican governors of this state have been liberals. The last conservative we had as governor was a dem named dixie, and the last conservative senator we had was a dem as well named scoop. Whod figure.

 

Notice I didnt mention that lounge singer dino rossi, Before he runs again, maybe a name change might do him well.=;-)

 

PS Our state is famous for having a gay mayor who is a republican as well as a gay basher at the same time. Our state, now you know why Rx is heading east and im heading south.

[Kulapavana]

Hitler won a lot of battles, but ultimately destroyed his own country.

 

and in the spiritual (and moral) sense: what is the meaning and cost of such victories?

[krsna]

Many people will spend the summer occupied with fishing and politics. In fishing you use a worm, and in politics a worm uses you.

 

 

 

The political candidates are planning their strategy for the fall campaign. Right now they must honestly decide on which issues they’re going to be dishonest.

 

 

 

If a person is well-informed on world issues, he can run for political office. And if the voters are not well-informed, he can get elected.

 

 

 

Republicans and Democrats have a lot in common. Republicans wear $1,000 suits, and Democrats drive $1,000 cars.

 

 

 

I like to tape news shots of Dick Cheney, and run them with my VCR on fast-forward. He looks so different, when he moves.

 

 

 

We keep electing politicians who lie, cheat, and deceive us. In Britain it’s the cows who are crazy. Over here it’s us.

 

 

 

The U.S. national debt is now 7-trillion dollars! That's a seven and 12 zeros, my fellow bankrupt Americans.

 

 

 

The Japanese have bought everything in America except the politicians. The Japanese want quality products.

 

 

 

A politician's idea of a mistake in judgement is accepting a small bribe when he should have done the ethical thing--hold out for a big one.

 

 

 

The world's smallest gathering is a politician collecting his thoughts.

 

 

 

I got a letter from my congressman deploring how America has become a throw-away society--but I threw it away.

 

 

 

Remember, you can't fool all the people all the time—but you must fool them during the campaign.

 

 

 

Have you noticed? It's always the fat cats who want to tighten somebody else's belt.

 

 

 

Congress has more good actors than the World Wrestling Federation.

 

 

 

A president can't fool all the people all the time. That's why we elect a president and a vice president.

 

[Tarun]

Anyone who's Truly Conservative can barely back this administration at all.

[Guest guest]

 

From President Bush’s press conference on Tuesday:

Question: ‘Are you still a conservative?’

The President: ‘Am I what?’

 

Any port in a storm, especially after the storm has passed. I said in the Telegraph the other day that the minute Hurricane Katrina hit, the media started scampering around like Munchkins singing ‘Ding Dong, The Bush Is Dead’. They always do, and it always fails. In terms of destroying Bush and the Republicans, Katrina was a total bust. In so far as it has any political impact, it’s likely to make Louisiana less Democrat. That’s it.

 

So the problem remains: how to slay Bush. And if this last week is anything to go by, it looks like Democrats are going to be denied that pleasure, and it will fall instead to conservatives to reduce the Bush presidency to rubble. Conservatives are mad at Bush, and the theory goes that next November they’ll stay home and the GOP will lose Senate and House seats. Of course, conservatives have been mad about a lot of Bush policies for a long time — education, immigration — but, in fairness to him, he campaigned as a massive federaliser of the school system and as a big nancy-boy pushover for illegal Mexicans. So we can’t complain we were misled.

 

On the other hand, he also said that, when it comes to Supreme Court justices, he’d appoint jurists in the mould of Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia — ‘conservative’ judges or, at any rate, strict constructionists, who don’t claim, as so many judges do, to be able to detect constitutional rights to abortion and sodomy in an 18th-century parchment. Britons often find it hard to understand why Americans of Left and Right make such a big deal about judges, but the fact is that much of the stuff the Left likes is hard to get elected on — gay marriage, racial quotas, partial-birth infanticide — and the courts play a critical role in advancing a ‘progressive’ agenda with minimal appeal to voters under the guise of constitutional ‘fairness’. Stephen Breyer, one of the nine Supreme Court justices, dislikes the term ‘judicial activism’ and prefers to see what he does as part of a ‘democratic conversation’ that’s good for the health of the republic. The Right, not unreasonably, thinks the democratic conversation was held earlier, during the election and then in the legislature and that, having passed a law forbidding, say, partial-birth abortion, they shouldn’t then see it overturned because Justice Breyer wants to have the last word in the ‘democratic conversation’.

 

So lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court are among the most important and lasting decisions a president makes. And, given the court’s present 4–4 split, with Sandra Day O’Connor as a whimsical swing vote, conservatives had high hopes that, whatever their other differences with George W. Bush, he wouldn’t let ’em down on this issue at least. With two vacancies on the bench, the President nominated for Chief Justice John Roberts, who sailed through the nominating process by letting the blowhard Democrat Senators kill the thing dead with a lot of showboating speeches revealing mostly their own vanity, ignorance and emotional narcissism. Senator Dianne Feinstein of California pleaded with Roberts to quit all this legalistic jive and start ‘talking to me as a son, a husband, a father’. As a son, a husband, a father, he seems to be one of those manly taciturn Gary Cooper types, fleshing out a ‘Yup’ or a ‘Nope’ to a full sentence if need be, but otherwise content to let the Democrat speechifiers talk themselves into the ground. Somewhere into the second hour of a question by Senator Joe Biden, they threw in the towel and confirmed Roberts by 78 to 22 votes.

 

It wasn’t just that Roberts had won but that Democrat oppositionism itself had lost badly. The old playbook — the lame charges of racism, the accusations of being ‘anti-women’ — had gone nowhere, and conservatives were keener than ever that Bush should seize the moment and find another Scalia, an unashamed, forthright, erudite strict-constructionist so loathed by the Left that he was singled out for special mention by Barbra Streisand in her special Kerry-fundraising Campaign 2004 lyric to ‘People’:

 

‘I see-a

Antonin Scalia

How I dread every time he sits

Scared out of my Wolfowitz ...’

But, instead of Son of Scalia, on Monday the President nominated someone unlikely to scare even Barbra out of her Wolfowitz: a lady called Harriet Miers. Harriet who? Well, she served as his ‘Staff Secretary’ — or, as her bio puts it, ‘the ultimate gatekeeper for what crosses the desk of the nation’s commander-in-chief’. Legally speaking, that makes her sound more Della Street than Perry Mason. But don’t worry — she is, in fact, a lawyer; indeed, for some years, back in Texas, she was Bush’s personal lawyer. She does, to be fair, have credentials independent of her Bush connections — she won the Legal Services of North Texas 1996 Merrill Hartman Award — but she’s not a judge, not a constitutional lawyer, not a legal scholar, not someone with any judicial philosophy or someone who’s shown any interest in acquiring one. What she is is a pal of the President. Remember Dick Cheney back in 2000? Governor Bush put him in charge of interviewing candidates for the vice-presidential nomination and then decided, while shifting through Dick’s assessments, that he didn’t care for the shortlist but he liked the guy who drew it up. That’s basically what he did with Harriet Miers: until a few days ago, she was the person calling up candidates and sounding them out. If Bush were to invite me to head up the process of selecting the next ambassador to Chad, you can make a safe bet I’d be spending the next five years in Ndjamena.

 

Conservative commentators have been withering about the inner-circle cronyism of the Miers pick. National Review’s Rick Brookhiser said ‘the only good news’ was that it wasn’t as bad as Caligula putting his horse up for consul. It was then pointed out that, though Caligula had put up the old nag, he didn’t get through the nominating process. Rod Dreher of the Dallas Morning News said that, when Justice Stevens retires, he expects Bush to nominate his dog Barney: ‘Who can a man trust to be loyal more than his dog? Certainly Barney has no paper trail, unless you count stuff he chewed up when he was a puppy.’ In a blistering column on Wednesday, George Will all but called explicitly for Republican senators to reject the Bush nomination, on the grounds that nobody who knew anything about the subject would ever recommend Miss Miers for the Supreme Court and that the President had ‘forfeited his right to be trusted as a custodian of the Constitution’ by his signature of the grotesque McCain–Feingold campaign finance reform act.

 

Hence, that question at Tuesday’s press conference: Bush has stiffed conservatives, and in return enough will sit on their hands next election day and Congress will fall to the Democrats.

 

Where do I stand? To be honest, I haven’t a clue. A vacancy comes up on the Supreme Court and for a month or so every columnist is expected to be an expert on the jurisprudence of a couple of dozen legal types he’d never previously heard of. I had some chit-chat on the nominations a few weeks back with National Review’s Kate O’Beirne and the former solicitor-general (and rejected Supreme Court nominee) Robert Bork. I did my best to keep my end up. There were two Ediths being touted as nominees back in the summer — one Edith was regarded as sound, the other as wobbly — and I pretended I was on top of which one was which, though right now I have absolutely no recollection. Judge Bork knew his lawyers, obviously, but I’m not sure how many of the rest of us do. ‘I like that black woman,’ said the guy who came to change the antifreeze in my heating pipes on Tuesday. He meant Janice Rogers Brown: strong conservative, but black and female and thus less easily Borkable by the Senate Democrats. But ‘I like that black woman’ is not necessarily any less expert than most of the commentary in this field.

 

Even Presidents aren’t always better informed. The most bungled Supreme Court pick in recent years was Bush Snr’s: Dubya’s dad picked my fellow New Hampshirite David Souter knowing nothing about him and, ever since he joined the bench, he’s been one of the Left’s most reliable votes. If Junior’s sin is that he’s only comfortable with cronies, dad’s problem was that he was way too trusting: whatever else she may be, Harriet Miers is no Souter Two.

 

For what it’s worth, my sense is that Harriet Miers will be, case by case, a more reliable vote against leftist judicial activism than her mercurial predecessor, Sandra Day O’Connor. Why do I say this? Well, she’s a strong supporter of the right to bear arms. The great Second Amendment expert Dave Kopel says you have to go back to Louis Brandeis 90 years ago to find a Supreme Court justice whose pre-nomination writings extol gun rights as fulsomely as Miss Miers. According to an old boyfriend, Judge Nathan Hecht of the Texas Supreme Court, she packs heat — a Smith & Wesson .45 — which I can say with certainty the other lady justice, the far-left Ruth Bader Ginsberg, never has. She is also very opposed to abortion, and a generous contributor to pro-life groups.

 

In other words, what seems to be emerging is a woman Bush responds to as a fellow cultural conservative and evangelical conservative (she’s a born-again Christian) rather than as a judicial conservative — a label Judge Bork dislikes, preferring quite correctly that we distinguish judges not as conservative or liberal but as either originalists or judicial activists. I find it hard to discuss Harriet Miers seriously in those terms, but on balance she seems likely to vote the right way for whatever reasons. She’s thus another representative of Bush and Karl Rove’s belief in incrementalism — that the Republican majority can be made a permanent feature of the landscape if you build it one small brick at a time. Miss Miers is, at best, such a brick, at a time when conservatives were hoping Bush would drop a huge granite block on the court. But, given that she started out as a Democrat and has been on the receiving end of the partisan attacks on the administration for five years, she seems less likely than any detached effete legal scholar to be prone to the remorseless drift to the Left that happens to Republican Supreme Court nominees.

 

True, that’s little more than a hunch on my part. My old comrade David Frum, who worked with her in the White House, is devastated by Bush’s pick, calling her a ‘lovely person’ but a ‘taut, nervous, anxious personality’ who’ll be a pushover for the leftie gang on the court. We’ll see.

 

What’s left, then, is the base’s distress and the perception of weakness on the President’s part. The first is real and may cause problems in 2006, though I can’t see it costing the GOP its congressional majorities. As for Bush personally, he was the better of the alternatives in both 2000 and 2004 but, come on, the ‘compassionate conservative’ thing was, in its implications, far more insulting to the base than the steel tariffs or the proposed illegal-immigrant amnesty or the judicial nominees. Bush, it seems ever more obvious, is the Third Wayer Clinton only pretended to be. The Slicker reckoned that, to be electable, a Democrat had to genuflect rhetorically to some kind of sensible soccer-mom-ish centre, and he was right, at least in so far as without him the Dems have been el stinko floppo three elections in a row. But Bush, for good or ill, believes in himself as the real Third Way deal: it’s a remarkable achievement to get damned day in day out as the new Hitler when 90 per cent of the time you’re Tony Blair with a ranch. The President is a religio-cultural conservative who believes in big government and big spending and paternalistic federal intervention in areas where few conservatives have ever previously thought it wise. Not my bag but, that said, every time I or anybody else has predicted he’s blown it, he manages to produce another victory. Even the sluggishness of the war on terror seems likely to be partly redeemed by the imminent fall of Baby Assad. Given the transformational potential of 9/11 and the fact that the Democratic party is all out of gas, I think the Bush–Rove incremental strategy is way too limited. But it seems to work, and I’d bet it does again on election day next year.

 

Of course, this could all be one big Karl Rove head-fake to make conservatives so hopping mad that the Dems scent blood and kill the Miers nomination, after which they’ve shot their bolt and Bush nominates Scalia Mark Two....

 

Well, we can dream, can’t we?