dna Posted March 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Wow, this thread is still kicking. Thanks for the advice everyone. For the last couple of months it seems as if though the mice have left. Initially I was using traps, but after encountering a mouse squeaking for its life, that was more than enough for my heart to take. Finally, I did some cleaning, especially in the kitchen...so no more mice *knock on wood*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demi Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Some people posts here: If you kill a mosquito, it will be bad karma and will result in suffering. So it´s up to you when you would like your suffering: If the mosquito bites you, you´ll suffer now, and if you kill it, you´ll suffer later. The choice is yours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 If you want to catch the mouse or rat, you need to use the brutal "snap" traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 And if you see the mouse squeeking for its life in the brutal "Snap" trap, Buy a GAMO 220 .177 Pellet gun at 1000 feet per second. Finish it off, It does the job. You can get them at your local Sport Authority store for about $160 It has the power of a .22 Caliber Shot Gun, but its legal to shoot on your property as long as you dont kill any protected wildlife, which a mouse is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 every time we breath we inhale and send to their destruction hundreds of microscopic bacteria; not to mention the unforeseen destruction of worms and bugs which my automobile squishes during a rainstorm under my tires and on my windshield. am i acquiring all this negeative karma? or by the Lord's mercy are these types of destruction forgiven? all men are forced to act according to the impulse born of the 3 modes of material nature (goodness, passion, ignorance)so chant the glories of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and do not fear...He shall remove all sinful activity ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 am i acquiring all this negeative karma? or by the Lord's mercy are these types of destruction forgiven? According to the Gita we are subjected to all sinful reactions we perform regardless of whether we knowingly or unknowingly perform them. Every action itself is a source of bondage, regardless of how insignificant it may seem. Only by performing every action as an offering to God (yajnarthat - for the purpose of the divine) can the reaction be burnt up. In our mind it may make us feel releaved to think that God is mysteriously forgiving us for all the sins we are committing, the fact is He probably isn't. It is more than likely that we will suffer our karma like all the other billions and billions of living entities that have existed in the past. If we want proof to whether God has removed all these sinful reactions, just see if we are suffering any karmic reactions at present. If we experience a single reaction then it is clear we are not free from these sinful acts. Why should we believe God will remove our future karmic reactions when He is not removing our past karmic reactions (which we are suffering at present). Thus it is all hopeful thinking, but we can directly see it isn't true from the reactions we are presently suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 your methods are cruel and against all that I believe. Anyway, no matter what I do the mice get into my grain storage in my barn. one committed suicide the othe day by attempting to squeeze through a hole too small for it. That was my limit! I have come to an agreement with the mice. I now put a small amount of grain outside the container and they no longer get into it and mess up the feed. I wear a mask in my barn anyway so we are now all happy. That is until....the snakes came out. The snakes are crawling around and I am sure feeding on the mice. There is nothing I can do about that as it is their nature. i have now seen two non-poisonous snakes and I swear they were smiling!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 But my parents had the exterminator come in and kill them all. I didn't know about hare krishna back then ... but I know its wrong to ask such questions on a religious forum!! Answer is "NO!" definitely, even I will back it UP! and living entity, your place sounds like a zoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 The "Final Solution"is to chant Hare Krishna constantly and by the mercy of the Holy Name all suffering beings-jivas-will be reconciled in the contradictions and dualities of material existance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 This is really weird!! There is an actual infestation of mice in my area now!! They are everywhere - go outside at night and kick around in the weeds etc and there are swarms of them. Everyone is complaining about them now and people who have never had them in their houses now do including me! I only saw three and located their point of entrance which was the dryer exhaust duct. I purchased a metal one and no more mice. But I am constantly watching for them now - it is horrible because we do have Hanta virus in my area. There do not seem to be many snakes this year and I wonder if that is the cause of the problem with the mouse. The numbers of the little beast is like old testament swarm proportions!!! /images/graemlins/crazy.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitta Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 You asked a very interesting and thought-provoking question. I read the various responses to the question too. Spirituality and Krsna consciousness, as I view them collectively, transcends laws, rules, established beliefs, religious codes and belief system. As I say the aforesaid, I am prepared for the avalanche of waiting emails and postings from bhaktas, who would take exception to the view. Only a careful examination of the issue will clarify the mystery and enigma that surround Bhakti Marga. One extreme of living is to be blase about what harm we do to our surroundings and others; but the other extreme is the fanatical obsession with rule books. Such an obsession will give rise to religions like Jainism that requires its members to wear masks and sweep the floors before the believers tread. Oh yes, I agree that every living thing has an equal right to existence. After all, the soul that inhabits the body is the same soul in every body. However, where one's existence interferes with the harmonius living of another, the aggressor, if need be, has to be put down. The right of private defence has been accepted as a Dharma in the Smirities written by Yaknavalya, Manu and Parasara; and even in the Ithikas, this has been sanctioned. Apart from the above, a logical analysis of the "ahimsa" principle will shed light on the point that I am belabouring: if 'ahimsa' extends to absolute non-killing, we should not be living --- as pointed out (again) by another devotee, even the steps that we take towards the altar necessitates in the death of million of lives on the ground beneath our feet, lives striving in our bodies! Each time we drink and eat prasadam, we are committing 'himsa'. Extending this further, we would find ourselves refusing to take anti-biotics to kill the virus that causes us an infection or disease. In a word, it is all in keeping with sadana, bhakti and devotion to exterminate intruders into our homes and houses. (In point of fact, jivas that take births as roaches, insects and bugs are destined to have short life span to expiate their karmas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 I agree with Chitta but if you still want to try a soft option keep your place very clean block up any holes and spread WORMWOOD branches and sprigs of BAY TREE here and there in KTICHEN and Bathroom cupboards etc. Thanks. It works but I can't say I've tried it in a mouse plague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 the other thing is to wait for the mouse to make a post and then you just ban his or her IP. It works quite well. How do you know if its a mouse posting a message? Well, thats easy - they're usually a bit cheesy, what to speak of holey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 my house is very clean. I do not leave any foodstuffs sitting around and the kitchen is kept very clean. I cook for Krsna here!! One of my sheds has been taken over by them and there are no food stuffs or cloth items in it - just tools!! Unfortunately, we do not have any wormwood or bay trees here. Someone mentioned mothballs but that is too chemically for me to tolerate. Any other suggestions? I am considering a cat but with the amount of mice running around outside I would need a family of tigers! Seriously, this whole area is over run suddenly. It is the weirdest thing. I think something happened to the snakes because there are usually more of them and they love the mice. We have never had this kind of problem. Oh, and I just thought of something else...coyotes like the mice also but I have not seen nor heard very many at all this summer. I am afraid that the growth in this area is changing the eco-system somehow. I just thought of yet another thing...we don't get a lot of rain here in the desert and the mice showed up the night after we had an all night down pour. That was about a week and a half ago. I wonder if their little burrows got flooded out and pushed them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 19, 2003 Report Share Posted August 19, 2003 or you counteract them with catty posts!! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 i personally hate coyotes, should i shoot them in the head or in the heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinimat Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Coyotes are amazing animals and they are our friends. As far as mice go, I bought these awesome live traps where you can catch mice and release them into the woods. You can buy them at: http://www.abundantearth.com/store/mousetrap1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 dunno...perhaps you will figure that out when you come back as a coyote. personally hate coyotes, should i shoot them in the head or in the heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Somehow I brought a mouse into the house in a box from the shed this spring. I actually saw him one day, so I couldn't bring myself to borrow the neighbor's cat. I shopped for humane traps and found two varieties (at Canadian Tire), but upon examining them I feared the little guy in his panic to escape might injur his arm or fingers. So I found a nice site on the web with a plan for a sweet trap. Tonight, five hours after it was built I escorted my little friend out to the river and left him with a huge pile of rice, popcorn, butter, peanuts and cream cheese to start his new life. And now I have a saw - like a real householder! Cost: saw, screws, hinge and free scrap wood = $10US. That was halfway between the cheapie and expensive store-bought humane traps. The humane mouse trap: <blockquote> http://www.hilaroad.com/camp/projects/mouse_trap/mouse_tr.html </blockquote> It took a non-carpenter type (with no drill, only a cheap handsaw and odd sized pieces of particle board) three hours to perfect the trap, although mine certainly did not look as square and elegant with a wire cage and all like the one on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 That mouse I let go in the early morning was no ordinary mouse. He never ate bhoga. While disinfecting today I discovered his main hangout and source of nutrition. Two summers back I brought home half a coconut which had been used in the Ratha Yatra starting ceremony. It rolled to my feet so I carried it throughout the march down the main street, feeding coconut to a number of chanting devotees. As a momento I kept the half coconut which still had almost half the flesh left. Well, the little mouse had been living in the coconut and feasting on Jagannatha mercy, listening to kirtans and Prabhupada lectures. Once I realized he was around (probably when the maha ran out), I made sure he had nice mouse prasadam so I could control his mess (and of course, trick him into a big green garbage bag). Maybe it sounds silly, but I became very happy when I discovered the mouse house coconut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I love it...very cool story! Thanks for sharing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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