Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 Is conditional love mere gratification? The husband comes home from work,kisses his wife,tells her how much he loves her and then asks what's cooking for dinner.The wife says she has not cooked anything for dinner,she just felt a bit lazy,can they go out for dinner,have a simple meal? The flourish,the cheerfulness,the affection disappears like a mere dream.There is a sullen resentment,a trace of anger.Is the husband seeking love or mere gratification of his own needs? The father kisses his son and tells him how much he loves him.He then enthusiastically announces that he is going to drive his son to the nearby park.The little boy wrinkles his nose and says that he would prefer to play with the neighbour's children.The father's enthusiasm and affection vanish as he glares at his son.Is the father seeking love or gratification? Is our love in our daily relationships actually love or is it merely gratification? In most of our daily relationships,we love with expectation and conditions.I cook and sacrifice for you in return for your approval and love which I crave.Stop the love and approval and my desire to cook and please you wanes. Why do we seek gratification and why do we call it love? Obviously,we have various needs,a need for love,for appreciation,for respect,for attention,for recognition,for praise,for feeling wanted.All these needs demand gratification.Since other people also have their own needs,we learn to trade off.We seek approval,we provide care.We seek company,we offer affection.Yet,whatever be the convenience of mutual gratification,it is only unconditional love that can be called love.The rest are merely various forms of gratification.Ultimately,love with conditions binds us in patterns of expectation.Expectation,if frustrated,creates disappointment and anger.Unfulfilled expectations can lead to a sense of being betrayed or let down.Our love often ends in pain and misery for ourselves and others.This is because it is not unconditional love but a need for gratification masquerading as love. In a sense,our needs may be legitimate.We may seek approval, respect,love,affection and togetherness.We may seek security.These felings should be accepted for what they are and expressed directly.Their satisfaction should be sought directly by means that will bring about the desired result.There is only one way to receive love,to give it.There is only one way to obtain friendship,to be a friend.Achievement brings approval,discipline and strength command respect.The fulfillment of my needs should not be a condition for offering my affection.The power of my heart,the power of love gets trivialised if I barter my affection for the gratification of my physical or emotional needs.Let us be clearly aware of the moments when we are seeking gratification,in a stillness of mind and heart,let us feel and understand the need whose gratification is being sought.Let us refrain from bartering our affection for the gratification of our needs,physical or emotional.In the complete awareness of our needs,as they are,they can be understood and dissolved. My love,when offered,should be unconditional,expecting nothing in return.In this extraordinary power,the human being climbs to heights of timeless perfection.The results of unconditional love are extraordinary,for ourselves and others.Extraordinary intimacy,kindness,achievement,wisdom,strength and sacrifice become possible in the presence of unconditional love.Great burdens become light,great achievements are carried lightly,extraordinary responsibility and commitment arise,extraordinary courage and faith,boundless optimism and energy,an indefatigable will,all these and a million other blessings spring from the treasurehouse of unconditional love.All of us seek to give and receive love.Let us tear apart the chain of conditions,of expectation,of gratification.Completely free from conditions and expectations,our lives will be transformed as we soar with the power and magic of unconditional love. Ashok Gollerkeri SharingForSelfEnquiry/message/386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 This is an interesting proposition. Everything is a gradation in this material world. There are certainly baser aspects to “love” and more refined aspects of “love”. Pure love can only be experienced on the level of the soul. The underlying principle is the same but it might be expressed in material covers. An animal loves its offspring but can only express this love in a physical manner (cleaning, feeding etc…). A human parent expresses love through actions, but also words and symbols. On higher levels “love” is expressed ever more finely, until at the highest level it is pure untainted love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 I have heard that Srila Prabhupada has stated that the love a mother has for her child is as close to pure love as can be found in this material world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2002 Report Share Posted September 15, 2002 Love is self sacrifice-is'nt this a very common misconception? Are we to sacrifice ourselves,our happiness and our developement,our own growth as individuals at the altar of duty,marriage or friendship and call it love? Can love actually demand a sacrifice of one individual to strengthen another? Love is a spontaneous fulfillment,a flowering of our consciousness,a realisation of the essential oneness with another.This realisation neither makes demands nor does it call for sacrifices.It is an enhancement of both in the recognition of their essential oneness. There might be certain actions done by an individual for another.However,these,if done with a sense of love,of oneness,are not considered a sacrifice at all.It is actually the celebration of one's own enhanced and expanded awareness beyond our petty,separative self identity.An action born of love is a celebration of love not a sacrifice.To sacrifice is to give up what we want.In an action born of love,nothing is desired except an enhancement and expression of the love itself.Thus,an act of love is a fulfillment of one's own deepest desire. It can be quite baffling to a mind filled with learnt notions of virtue and duty to understand the actions born of love.For,a mind filled with learnt patterns,ingrained with a sense of duty and virtue by authority,by conditioning,is actually sacrificing its own desires and needs to fulfill ingrained demands and notions of virtue and duty.In these,in this artificially ripened fruit,there is a bitterness,a sense of becoming less,a feeling of self sacrifice for the sake of another.Since the large mass of individuals in a society are still trapped in a conditioned awareness,still prisoners of patterns of conformity,they are confined to an ingrained pattern of behaviour in the name of virtue,duty or love.These then are labelled and admired by the very same mass,a kind of self appreciation,patting one's own back for the trouble taken,by terming it heroic self sacrifice.This is then sold to others,taught as a virtue,a mere figment of imagination presented as a sacrosanct principle of life- that love demands self sacrifice. There is no doubt that love is selfless,spontaneously so.Yet,it seeks no rewards and does not claim the credit for sacrificing anything.Love gives unconditionally and seeks no reward.It acts as a natural fulfillment of its own capacity,of its own deepest desire,of its own enhanced awareness and understanding.In fact,it is repelled by all selfishness,including the vanity of a proclaimed self sacrifice. Thus,we have the curious phenomenon of differing perceptions.A human being acting out of love may feel that he has done only what is natural to him.He may feel it merits no special attention.He might actually play down the action as of being little consequence.He might feel that it was merely what he wanted to do.Yet,the same action viewed by others devoid of love may be labelled as self sacrifice.This may further be labelled as heroic and desirable and it may be sought to be laid down as a role model for behaviour. Children,especially,may be ingrained with simplistic and erroneous notions of this kind. It is typical of superficial observation and thinking to confuse and mistake the stem for the root,the visible for the invisible,the label for the fact.In fact,this shows how,in the ultimate analysis, experience is the only transforming agent.One can only know what one has actually experienced.In the experiencing,one goes beyond the label,the word and enters the fact.Yet,our entire system of thought,of language,our social structures and systems,our accumulated knowledge is based on what we call impartial observation.Is it possible that we are merely filling our heads with innumerable labels of little significance? Is it possible that,in our so called achievements,we are merely succumbing to an illusion of knowledge? Is our own vanity,the power and momentum of our own thought process,actually preventing us from seeing things as they are? Is experience a comb which we finally get when we have lost all our hair? Thought operates within a given framework of experience.Since our experience is finite,can our thought grasp the infinite? Our thought is merely a pale shadow of our experience.Words are probably an approximate and pale shadow of our thought process.Since thought and language forms the backbone of our so called knowledge,is it possible that the little that we do know is actually preventing us from knowing the vast unknown? Are our senses,mental and intellectual faculties actually incapable of knowing reality as a complete experience? If so,do we have the wisdom to know that we do not know? Can we,in a complete and unconditional acceptance of this fact,actually remove the blocks to our own awareness of the reality that is? This exploration of our own consciousness,this unique journey of the discovery of our own awareness,calls for both learning and unlearning.Most of all,it calls for unlearning the vanity of our so called knowledge and the humility to acknowledge that we may never "possess" final knowledge.It is only the courage born of love that can find this strength and this humility. Ashok Gollerkeri SharingForSelfEnquiry/message/400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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