Karrtik--2 weeks early??

[Guest guest]

According to Iskcon centres around the world, the month of Karrtik began on sunday, 20 oct 02- day of the full moon. According all other calenders, the month of Karrtik starts on Goverdhan puja, day after Diwali-which is the beginning of the new moon and is also the new year.

 

why is there a two week difference? and what calender is Iskcon adopting.

 

 

[stonehearted]

It's not just an ISKCON thing. Both Tripurari Maharaja's and Narayana Maharaja's sites have the same date, and neither is connected with ISKCON. I haven't checked any other Gaudiya sites, but my memory is that, as far back as I can remember, we have observed Karttika beginning on the purnima. We all generally use calculations based on the Gaudiya panjika instituted by Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada.

[Jahnava Nitai Das]

Which calander do you use? Which region of India are you in? Different religious sub-cultures calculate their calendars differently. For example, for Saurashtras, Krishna Janmashtami comes a month after others observe it. Also generally smartas and vaishnavas calculate occassions one day off from each other. Thus there are different calendars for different sub-cultures.

[muralidhar]

The devotees of Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math started the Kartik observance on the Purnima.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ive lived in london all my life but we are originally from Gujarat. We use both the ISKCON calender and the Indian calender and paanchang and we have always found a difference when it came to the month of Karrtik.

 

why did the followers of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu start to observe the month of Karrtik from the full moon and disregard when it should start from the new moon in two weeks time?

 

Do you know why? Do you know what they used as their sources for calculations?

[Guest guest]

hare krishna

[Guest guest]

The hindu calender is unevrsal is many resepcts across india. What the main differencs is the 1sy day of the year amd 1st day of the month. In gujarat, rajasthan we celbrate and new year on Kirtik, shula paksh, pratipad which is Goverdhan puja day/divalli. In other part such as Andrapradesh the new year is on Chiatra, sukhla pratipad, 8 daas before Ram Navami....and so on.

 

Now withe the hindu datin system, we go by fortnights, are months are split in 2 halves according to the moon phases, so the light half (ending on full moon) is shukla paksh, and the dark half (ending on new moon) is Krishna paksh. So.. our dating is according not only to months but also to the fortnight..so we always indicate fornight. With me so far?????

 

Right now we have 24 fornights in the year so 12 months, the start of the month is defined differently across different parts of india. In Gujerat and we start naming the month the day after the new moon so on Shukla paksh, whereas is Punjab and Bengal (where iskcon calendar is based) month names start with fullmoon so Krishna paksh.

 

Now this doesnt mean we celebrate or festivals on different fornights. Iskcon dates Janamshtami as Krishna paksh (fortnight), ashtami (the date/thithi) and the month as Badrapad. In gujerat We say Janamshtami is Krishna paksh astami, but because we name the months accordeing to new moon the, month is shravan. ist still the same day everywhere, we all celebrate janamshtami at the same time.