sushanta Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Now a days you can find a lots of Sadhus and preachers use this title, including many who are respected worldwide even. Are they authentic Jagatgurus or have been using simply, as this is a wonderful title. As far I as I know this title is given by Kashi Vidwat Parishad in Varanashi, and titlesd to some one who can bring a radical change in the spiritual world like Dwetavad, Adwetavad, etc. And for these reasons this highest title was given to Adi Sankaracharya, Madhavacharya, etc. Can some one expelain the use of this title being used commonly now a days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 ..I'll leave the explanation, but I would caution you about opinions gained from any web site that claims that the title jagatguru is to be bestowed by a certain group in varanasi and nowhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 this is commen in hinduism, It's also stated that the highest title is paramahamsa, yet that is used by people in various groups. jagat guru means one who can deliver the entire world, every sect claims authority to use these titles in the way they see fit, so there is no one standard for all. One sect may consider the varanasi school of sankara to be unqualified to give themselves such titles, and then again another may feel the same about them. Because the various sects under the vedic umbrella all use these ancient sanskrit terms , there is bound to be disagreement over propriety of qualification for these terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 11, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 For your information all the five authentic Jagatgurus titles were given by Kashi Vidwat Parishad only, who are authorised for this activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Jagat-guru is not a title given by votes, nor is it the property of any particular organization. Who ever teaches the message of Lord Krishna from Bhagavad Gita is the world teacher, or jagat-guru. The true jagat-guru is Lord Krishna Himself, who needs no one to authorize His position as the world teacher. Vande krishnam jagad-gurum... Whoever represents Lord Krishna transparently, without distorting the message of the Lord is also jagat-guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 sushanta, I have looked at Kripalu's web site and personally find him to be someone that I will steer clear of.For one I don't recall seeing Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's name on the list.Therefore I have no interest in the list or those who author it. let me ask who gave this group in varanasi the authority to make such statements?And if they have the sole power to bestow the use of the title jagatguru, where did they get that power? And why aren't they then jagatguru's? If they are not fully qualified to be jagatguru themselves how can they then authorize someone else to be?Can the lessor empower the greater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 dear theist is this the same Kripalu whose site I recommended?I remember there was this Krsna lila animation and it was cool.I never bothered to look deeper into jagatguru hehe...I am amazed you didn't find lord Chaitanya's name.Actually in India religious groups are very much confused today.So I guess we should just follow Prabhupada and he will save us.Different gurus are there for different peoples. joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 Haribol joy, I'm not sure if it is the same site.It used to be maintained by a mataji whose name I just forgot.It was very beautiful and visually very attractive.She apparently had a falling out with Kripalu and moved on and her site disappeared.Another has replaced it I think.Her site had this picture of Radha Krsna and this pond with rippling motion s running across it.Such a nice artistic eye this mataji displayed.I hope she is doing well. If this was the site you wrote about I can understand it. I avoid Kripalu primarily because I read an excerpt from his writings posted on the site that stated the form of Krsna had emerged from the impersonal Brahman.That was enough for me.Along with the claim that he is the fifth Jagat guru after Madvacarya,Ramanujacarya, Sankaracarya and I believe Vishnusvami.All supposedly given the title from this group in Varanasi. Hare Krsna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Please visit the site callsed www.jkp.org and you know the complete data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Why do not you take up the case yourself, and do the lecturers in the college who prepare for the bank and administrative services are through those things. I hope you people are too biased to one side only. Radhey Radhey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 I fully agree to you, but still then why these Jagatgurus are being call so? Radhey Radhey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear Guest, I feel you are confused not the Indian spiritual line, then how caome the world is still learning from Indian phylosophy only. Radhey Radhey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sorry for the topic, I beg at your feet please ignore this and if possible freeze this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sorry for the topic, I beg at your feet please ignore this and if possible freeze this topic. Please excuse me for the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sorry for the topic, I beg at your feet please ignore this and if possible freeze this topic. Please excuse me for the inconvience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushanta Posted November 12, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sorry for the topic, I beg at your feet please ignore this and if possible freeze this topic. Please excuse for the controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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